EPCOT Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

[J4546]

I like the Little Mermaid dark ride in CA, its not an e-ticket obviously, but I think its pretty good for what it is. Although I wish theyde redo it to a CoCo ride casue I think it would fit a lot better...and CoCo is an awesome movie

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I feel like there’s probably space for 2ish trackless rides in each park. Yeah, you don’t want to overindex on them, but most of the parks have at least a couple of rides with the same or similar ride systems. Hollywood Studios probably doesn’t need any other ones, but I could see one more for EPCOT, one for Magic Kingdom, and one for Animal Kingdom.

If there were 8 in Florida...it would be a joke.

the two is studios is pushing it.

I think you could maybe add one in DAK and then move on

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If you’re not gonna use the prime advantage to trackless...which is randomization...they’re kinda pointless.

just having them switch directions once or twice while going past screens is really...really low brow...

it’s timid engineering...which is not what you need when you don’t add anything for a decade in a park...”hypothetically”...of course

 

[J4546]

I love good quality darkrides, they are what separate Disney parks from the rest imo. I dont care what kind of vehicle, on track, trackless, boat, log flume, omnimover....Im all team darkride all the way.

Id love to add a few to AK. And by add I mnea replace and redo the 2 water rides in AK and make them E-ticket level attractions. Tear down and redo Navi River Journey into a ride that uses the Pirates bones from DL along with the blue bayou and retheme it to a wonderful avatar boat ride with outdor que that takes you into a cavern just like PotC in Disneyland and then transports you into massive indoor scenes. Along with cool outdoor restaurant where you can watch the navi boats flow down the river into a cavern as they start their ride.

As for Kali....I want to make the greatest river rapids ride in the world. Using PotC Shanghai tech for the first time on a river rapids style attraction. Massive indoor and outdoor show scenes taking you on an adventure through the kali river into an ancient temple with some cool stuff kinda like indiana jonesish scenes....also have it narrated by the kid and bear from jungle book. Theres no jungle book rep in Disney Parks and JB is awesome. Dont make it a JB ride, its the Kali River Rapids with whatever their names are I forget. Just have them pop u a couple times to tell you what your looking at.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I love good quality darkrides, they are what separate Disney parks from the rest imo. I dont care what kind of vehicle, on track, trackless, boat, log flume, omnimover....Im all team darkride all the way.

Id love to add a few to AK. And by add I mnea replace and redo the 2 water rides in AK and make them E-ticket level attractions. Tear down and redo Navi River Journey into a ride that uses the Pirates bones from DL along with the blue bayou and retheme it to a wonderful avatar boat ride with outdor que that takes you into a cavern just like PotC in Disneyland and then transports you into massive indoor scenes. Along with cool outdoor restaurant where you can watch the navi boats flow down the river into a cavern as they start their ride.

As for Kali....I want to make the greatest river rapids ride in the world. Using PotC Shanghai tech for the first time on a river rapids style attraction. Massive indoor and outdoor show scenes taking you on an adventure through the kali river into an ancient temple with some cool stuff kinda like indiana jonesish scenes....also have it narrated by the kid and bear from jungle book. Theres no jungle book rep in Disney Parks and JB is awesome. Dont make it a JB ride, its the Kali River Rapids with whatever their names are I forget. Just have them pop u a couple times to tell you what your looking at.

we all love Disney dark rides or we wouldn’t be here...

but they’re doing too much screens and trackless for comfort right now.

reprogrammability is what they’re telling themselves they have....less cost in the long run.

so use it. Don’t expect to get 10-20 years off millennium falcon or runaway railway...they are once or twice and done. That captures most of the customers in 5 years flat

 

[owlsandcoffee]

imagine if they created an amazing dark ride where it started like a carousel and everyone got their own horse....and then the horses seperated like in the movie...I am trying to imagine how the ride vehicles would be though....cause id like them to be single rider carousel horses and not sit down group vehicles....im thinking they are hung from the sky like peter pan and you make a ride kinda like that, but your on a horse soaring over the UK and through the mary poppins universe.

The big downfall is with a single rider carousel style horse ride vehicles, someone could fall off if they were an idiot....and lots of people are idiots.

Sounds a lot like Tony Baxter's Jolly Holiday!

 

[Robbiem]

we all love Disney dark rides or we wouldn’t be here...

but they’re doing too much screens and trackless for comfort right now.

reprogrammability is what they’re telling themselves they have....less cost in the long run.

so use it. Don’t expect to get 10-20 years off millennium falcon or runaway railway...they are once or twice and done. That captures most of the customers in 5 years flat

What happened to the black box ride that was rumoured for the studios? I guess its been cancelled

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

What happened to the black box ride that was rumoured for the studios? I guess its been cancelled

Was that ever really a thing?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Was that ever really a thing?

From several sources, yes.

But... Main Street Theater.

 

[MisterPenguin]

we all love Disney dark rides or we wouldn’t be here...

but they’re doing too much screens and trackless for comfort right now.

reprogrammability is what they’re telling themselves they have....less cost in the long run.

so use it. Don’t expect to get 10-20 years off millennium falcon or runaway railway...they are once or twice and done. That captures most of the customers in 5 years flat

In four parks with nearly 60 rides, there are only 3 trackless rides:

• MMRR
• Rat
• RotR

What rides would you consider to be "screenz!"?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In four parks with nearly 60 rides, there are only 3 trackless rides:

• MMRR
• Rat
• RotR

What rides would you consider to be "screenz!"?

All 3 of those are heavily screen dependent...they do “other things”...one has the wicked witch of ren...but they are heavy screen.

those 57 things...by the way...were built since 1970...

I can say “wow”...tron is the only vekoma tandem onsie seat launch coaster opened in 2022.

and I’d be right...but it’s not much of a complaint

I like dark rides...I’m ok with the trackless...but don’t Laud for opening 3 in a row just yet. They may announce 2 more when they start building again in 2027....just wait

oh and just to be clear...avatar and falcon are hybrid screen rides

the new Spider-Man is a screen...midway mania is a screen...

so they are on quite a run

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What happened to the black box ride that was rumoured for the studios? I guess its been cancelled

Was that ever really a thing?

From several sources, yes.

But... Main Street Theater.

So not a thing, then?

I don’t recall that one

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

So not a thing, then?

I don’t recall that one

A one-size fits all "ride the movie" attraction that utilizes "screenz" as showpieces designed in such a way to be quickly changed out to satisfy the latest IP craze or as a cross-promotional gimmick. Ride type wasn't fully mentioned but one could guess based on the more recent ride offerings.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A one-size fits all "ride the movie" attraction that utilizes "screenz" as showpieces designed in such a way to be quickly changed out to satisfy the latest IP craze or as a cross-promotional gimmick. Ride type wasn't fully mentioned but one could guess based on the more recent ride offerings.

that’s sound awful...

...chapek is looking to buy the company with the patent...correct?

 

[owlsandcoffee]

All 3 of those are heavily screen dependent...they do “other things”...one has the wicked witch of ren...but they are heavy screen.

MMRR is mostly projection heavy. Where it uses screens it is to show the animated characters.

 

[James Alucobond]

-Lots of disparate things-

I'm not entirely sure I follow your point. Do you have a problem with trackless rides or just screen dependency? Screens and projections have been more and more a part of the experience lately regardless of ride type. I don't think any of the rides mentioned would be any more or less screen-dependent if they were omnimovers, for instance.

Poppins in particular, though, would be an opportunity to really take advantage of what trackless rides do best since the movies have plenty of song and dance numbers. Some of the most magical parts of Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast and MMRR are Be Our Guest, the ballroom scene, and the conga line, in large part because of how they simulate dancing through free movement. Being part of the action in Chim Chim Cheree, Super-cali-fragil-istic, Trip a Little Light Fantastic, or A Cover Is Not the Book would be excellent.

As for screens, an attraction based on the Poppins films also has a great opportunity to make sensible use of projections and screens by transporting both you and realistic animatronics directly into animated scenes based on the sequences from the pavement artist and the Royal Doulton Music Hall.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

MMRR is mostly projection heavy. Where it uses screens it is to show the animated characters.

Right...I was lumping “projections” together

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm not entirely sure I follow your point. Do you have a problem with trackless rides or just screen dependency? Screens and projections have been more and more a part of the experience lately regardless of ride type. I don't think any of the rides mentioned would be any more or less screen-dependent if they were omnimovers, for instance.

Poppins in particular, though, would be an opportunity to really take advantage of what trackless rides do best since the movies have plenty of song and dance numbers. Some of the most magical parts of Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast and MMRR are Be Our Guest, the ballroom scene, and the conga line, in large part because of how they simulate dancing through free movement. Being part of the action in Chim Chim Cheree, Super-cali-fragil-istic, Trip a Little Light Fantastic, or A Cover Is Not the Book would be excellent.

As for screens, an attraction based on the Poppins films also has a great opportunity to make sensible use of projections and screens by transporting both you and realistic animatronics directly into animated scenes based on the sequences from the pavement artist and the Royal Doulton Music Hall.

I have no problem with either trackless or screens...

I have a big problem with “mailing it in” on rides and doing the same things over and over again...particularly when they take 5 years to build something and then sit on the park for years after.

the main problem with Disney parks is they haven’t been refreshed enough for the last 25 years. One replacement every few years isn’t cutting it.

I don’t want anything becoming a “standard ride”

Eisner did two spinners in a year and you’d think they shot someone on Main Street at the time?

now we have trackless to replace onmimovers with little differences and sims out the wazzu

 

[James Alucobond]

I guess I just don't feel that either of the two trackless rides I've been able to board in Disney World feel similar enough for me to assert that trackless, as a ride type, is becoming part of some cookie cutter formula for them. I agree that it has certain strengths and that it should be reserved for experiences where those strengths can best be utilized, but I don't really understand the thinking that more shouldn't be built when they're actually underrepresented at the parks compared to other ride types.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I guess I just don't feel that either of the two trackless rides I've been able to board in Disney World feel similar enough for me to assert that trackless, as a ride type, is becoming part of some cookie cutter formula for them. I agree that it has certain strengths and that it should be reserved for experiences where those strengths can best be utilized, but I don't really understand the thinking that more shouldn't be built when they're actually underrepresented at the parks compared to other ride types.

they’re not “under represented”...they didn’t build any in Florida because olc and the Chinese partially financed the ones built first...

and during that period...not a lot was being done in Orlando. A land to counter potter and repurposing in magic kingdom and mgm...

Listen...I’ll take any addition...but “underrepresented” give excuse to the poor little conglomerate.

so we don’t need to have a ticker tape parade on these yet.

after rat opens...where do you want one next?