All Tomorrowland, All the time (Has Disney given up on the TTA?)

[Jasonflz]

Like it or not MILF and SGE are those attractions. You just don't like them, so you bash WDI and Disney.

too be fair SGE is a POS, but to say it doesn't attempt to get everyone is a bit of a stretch.

My whole family doesn't like MILF, and that's saying something. My mom and sister even love SGE.

 

[Jasonflz]

I always thought of tomorrowland (94 version) as sort of a land that appeals to older kids a bit more. You'd have AE (not for kids at all), SM (older kids), Timekeeper (not anti-kid but appeals to adults a bit more), CoP (see timekeeper), Astro Orbiter (a higher altitude dumbo). And I personally think it should fulfill that obligation but its obviously not doing that now.

Very true, and that's what Disney should return to in this case.

 

[Iceviper123]

Well, to be fair, they have managed to incorporate learning with those thrills and that is a very hard thing to do. Disney should really pat themselves on the back for Epcot, and use it as an example to re-shape the Magic Kingdom.

Test Track was tastefully done but Mission was absolutely not needed.

It sorda irks me that any time I go under water on a Disney attraction Nemo has to join me.
The overlay on living with the seas was worthless and so was on the submarine voyage at DL.

 

[SirGoofy]

My whole family doesn't like MILF, and that's saying something. My mom and sister even love SGE.

Oh my gosh one family! Close it down!:lol:

I've been in shows where the entire crowd is cracking up, and in some that were dead quiet. It all depends on the performers.

 

[SirGoofy]

Test Track was tastefully done but Mission was absolutely not needed.

Except Mission is 10 types of awesome.

It sorda irks me that any time I go under water on a Disney attraction Nemo has to join me.
The overlay on living with the seas was worthless and so was on the submarine voyage at DL.

Except both are quality attractions.

 

[Master Yoda]

No, but at least most people. Almost every different age demographic (young to old) enjoys Splash and Space Mountain. Those are the type of rides that Disney should start doing again.

I would agree that the story has a broad appeal but the ride system is somewhat polarizing. First of all it has a height restriction, second it has several drops and third you get wet. I know quite a few people that will not or can not go on Splash because of one or more of these 3 reasons.

 

[Jasonflz]

Oh my gosh one family! Close it down!:lol:

I've been in shows where the entire crowd is cracking up, and in some that were dead quiet. It all depends on the performers.

Did you go to the reviews section on WDWmagic? There are many people on there who don't like it, and many that do.

 

[imagineer boy]

Oh my gosh one family! Close it down!:lol:

I've been in shows where the entire crowd is cracking up, and in some that were dead quiet. It all depends on the performers.

For me, an attraction really shouldn't be where one time you ride it its great, and then another time its terrible. A good Disney attraction should be enjoyable on every visit.

 

[Jasonflz]

I would agree that the story has a broad appeal but the ride system is somewhat polarizing. First of all it has a height restriction, second it has several drops and third you get wet. I know quite a few people that will not or can not go on Splash because of one or more of these 3 reasons.

In general yes. When I said "those types of rides" I mailnly meant concepts that could appeal to the whole family without dumbing it down. The ride systems are totally up to the Imagineers.

 

[Jasonflz]

For me, an attraction really shouldn't be where one time you ride it its great, and then another time its terrible. A good Disney attraction should be enjoyable on every visit.

Very well said!

 

[Master Yoda]

Test Track was tastefully done but Mission was absolutely not needed.

It sorda irks me that any time I go under water on a Disney attraction Nemo has to join me.
The overlay on living with the seas was worthless and so was on the submarine voyage at DL.

Attendance numbers would disagree with you on both accounts.

 

[fngoofy]

Eh, I'm done with the old narration. I think the old theme portraying Tomorrowland as a "sci-fi city" has run its course and I'm much more interested to see what Tomorrowland will become than trying to promote keeping any last vestiges of the '94 version around any longer.

The Tomorrowland '94 "theme" was way too heavy-handed for my taste anyway. The TTA narration and the god-awful Space Mountain TV videos being the biggest offenders. I'm all for Disney giving a theme and an overall "vibe" to each land but I think the best themes are the ones that give an area a sense of place and leave plenty of room for guests to fill in the blanks with their own imagination.

The entire purpose of the aggressive 1994 theming was to tie together a group of mostly disjointed attractions into some sort of whole, but I don't think it ever really accomplished that, and as the two "cornerstone" attractions, Timekeeper and Alien Encounter fell victim to lack of attendance it made keeping that theme even less important.

I don't think the slate of Tomorrowland attractions is any less disjointed today than it was in 1994, it just lacks the ham-handed attempt at "theming" via TTA narration.

Which brings up this question: if the whole theme of Tomorrowland was primarily held together by the 1994 TTA narration, just how clear and strong of a theme was it really?

Tomorrowland, much like the rest of the lands in the Magic Kingdom, should be an assortment of adventures, grouped more by a general sense of being "out of this world" than straight-jacketed into following a strict storyline.

Well said.

 

[SirGoofy]

Did you go to the reviews section on WDWmagic? There are many people on there who don't like it, and many that do.

Yea...same can be said about almost any ride or attraction.:shrug:

 

[janoimagine]

Yea...same can be said about almost any ride or attraction.:shrug:

Exactly ... it's completely subjective.

 

[Jasonflz]

Yea...same can be said about almost any ride or attraction.:shrug:

Not Horizons. It got all 10's.


Well let me ask you this, knowing you love the Jungle Cruise.

What if, in favor of promotionalism over originality, Disney added Stitch to the ride, gave the skippers corny scripts (no pun intended), and totally messed with it?

 

[Iceviper123]

Like it or not MILF and SGE are those attractions. You just don't like them, so you bash WDI and Disney.

too be fair SGE is a POS, but to say it doesn't attempt to get everyone is a bit of a stretch.

People go to Disney to see and experience things that they never would find anywhere else.
When your have attractions based on some property its like you are familiar with it and its sorda takes the excitement out of it.
It's like directors doing adaptations from a book to a movie as opposed to having a director making a beautiful original idea into a movie it's more exotic because you are not familiar with it.
I'm not saying adaptations can't be beautiful, but for Disney parks people demand experiences that they can't find anywhere else.

 

[Iceviper123]

Except Mission is 10 types of awesome.



Except both are quality attractions.

What are you talking about?
They were quality attractions to begin with.

 

[Iceviper123]

Attendance numbers would disagree with you on both accounts.

Since they had to advertise they crap out of them.
I say let the integrity of the attraction speak for itself.

 

[Figment632]

that is the problem.
WDI needs to stop focusing on a demographic of age and
start conceptualizing attractions the appeal to EVERY age. (walt's original idea)
its as if the parents feel obligated to ride the attractions as opposed as enjoying them and making memories with their children.

Such an attraction does not exist. You can not make an attraction, or anything else for that matter, that appeals to everyone equally.

While you might not be able to make everyone happy, you could certainly build for rides that most families can enjoy together like most of the rides in Epcot.

 

[Master Yoda]

Since they had to advertise they crap out of them.
I say let the integrity of the attraction speak for itself.

Integrity has nothing to do with it. If Horizons and the Living Seas had been pulling in decent numbers they would still be there. You could not pay people to get on Horizons and those that did go on it that weren't Epcot zealots were typically bored to tears. The same was true for the seas once the sea cabs were mothballed. Sure I liked Horizons and Sea Base Alpha better than what we have now but the majority of them park guests would disagree. If an attraction or show is working Disney will not change it. You want proof of that just look an Indy at DHS. That show remains largely unchanged and it has been running for 20 years. Why? Because nearly every performance is too a nearly full house.