All DHS, all the Time

Jasonflz

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I can't imagine how stressed the park will be when (reads: if) Star Tours goes down.

Really? I never see Star Tours with waits around Soarin' magnitude and it never seems to swallow up people. If Tower of Terror goes down I could see the park become congested.
 

RSoxNo1

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DHS is show heavy and light on rides.

I agree with the sentiment that clearly defined lands would also help as well.

Although there isn't that cohesive a theme on Sunset Boulevard it's a defined area.

Pixar Place can also become that defined area as well if a second entry gate into the land is built and/or Pixar's footprint expands (Monster's Inc Coaster, re-theming of Honey I shrunk the Kids playground to Bugs Life)

A Lucas film area could be formally named, although there was speculation that it would be a combination Lucas/Spielberg land "Franchise land" or some derivation.

The Animation Courtyard is pretty well defined

A blockbuster/action land could be built up around LMA

With all that said, the park needs a D/E ticket likely to be the Monster's Inc Coaster, the refurbished Star Tours, and a couple more C tickets. I would even suggest finding a spot for Flying Carpets of Aladdin to be moved into the Animation Courtyard
 

Jasonflz

Well-Known Member
DHS is show heavy and light on rides.

I agree with the sentiment that clearly defined lands would also help as well.

Although there isn't that cohesive a theme on Sunset Boulevard it's a defined area.

Pixar Place can also become that defined area as well if a second entry gate into the land is built and/or Pixar's footprint expands (Monster's Inc Coaster, re-theming of Honey I shrunk the Kids playground to Bugs Life)

A Lucas film area could be formally named, although there was speculation that it would be a combination Lucas/Spielberg land "Franchise land" or some derivation.

The Animation Courtyard is pretty well defined

A blockbuster/action land could be built up around LMA

With all that said, the park needs a D/E ticket likely to be the Monster's Inc Coaster, the refurbished Star Tours, and a couple more C tickets. I would even suggest finding a spot for Flying Carpets of Aladdin to be moved into the Animation Courtyard

:sohappy:Well said!
 

jt04

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DHS is show heavy and light on rides.

I agree with the sentiment that clearly defined lands would also help as well.

Although there isn't that cohesive a theme on Sunset Boulevard it's a defined area.

Pixar Place can also become that defined area as well if a second entry gate into the land is built and/or Pixar's footprint expands (Monster's Inc Coaster, re-theming of Honey I shrunk the Kids playground to Bugs Life)

A Lucas film area could be formally named, although there was speculation that it would be a combination Lucas/Spielberg land "Franchise land" or some derivation.

The Animation Courtyard is pretty well defined

A blockbuster/action land could be built up around LMA

With all that said, the park needs a D/E ticket likely to be the Monster's Inc Coaster, the refurbished Star Tours, and a couple more C tickets. I would even suggest finding a spot for Flying Carpets of Aladdin to be moved into the Animation Courtyard


Good stuff especially the bolded.

I'd like to see Disney build their response to Uni's Mummy ride at DHS. But themed to Indiana Jones.
 

Jasonflz

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Good stuff especially the bolded.

I'd like to see Disney build their response to Uni's Mummy ride at DHS. But themed to Indiana Jones.

:) That's not a bad idea. Instead of copying the Indy attraction from the other parks, just crete a new one. Shame that we have more chance of Disney building a copied version than a new one.
 

SirGoofy

Member
Really? I never see Star Tours with waits around Soarin' magnitude and it never seems to swallow up people. If Tower of Terror goes down I could see the park become congested.

The fact is it still gets a lot of guests. It's got an incredible capacity, which is why the lines are never long. And it's a ride. If it goes down, all you have left is Tower, Coaster, GMR, TSM, and Backlot(for how long, though?). A park with only 5 rides? 6 is kinda embarrassing as it is for a theme park.

With all that said, the park needs a D/E ticket likely to be the Monster's Inc Coaster, the refurbished Star Tours, and a couple more C tickets. I would even suggest finding a spot for Flying Carpets of Aladdin to be moved into the Animation Courtyard

I LOVE the idea of moving the Carpets to the Animation Courtyard, even though I don't think it would fit. It would really open AL back up, and would allow for some aesthetic enhancements to AL that are desperately needed IMO.
 

imagineer boy

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jt04

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I agree, although I'd take the parts of it but retheme it tom Mickey's first cartoon "Plane Crazy" where guests fly little black and white planes so it fits into the animation courtyard much better.

Nice idea!


Eh, I'd prefer a clone, but perhaps with some new encounters. Sort of the like the Crystal Skull version at TDS has a tornado and fire ring effect.

I don't know, seems Disney could really make someting special out of a Mummy type ride system. And it fits the Indy story lines perfectly.
 

Tom Morrow

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Yes, but its the first roller coaster to also be used as a slow moving dark ride. In fact, I think it still is the only one, aside from the other Mummy attraction in Hollywood and the others being built overseas.
 

RSoxNo1

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Yes, but its the first roller coaster to also be used as a slow moving dark ride. In fact, I think it still is the only one, aside from the other Mummy attraction in Hollywood and the others being built overseas.

Now I know it's not the exact same thing, but aren't the tracks for SSE and Journey into Imagination derivations of coaster tracks? Obviously not built to withstand the forces created by faster speeds, but I really don't see this as any real new technology.

With that said, it seems Rasulo's approach is to use existing technology for new attractions, or clone the crap out of anything that uses a technology that Disney develops.
 

jt04

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Now I know it's not the exact same thing, but aren't the tracks for SSE and Journey into Imagination derivations of coaster tracks? Obviously not built to withstand the forces created by faster speeds, but I really don't see this as any real new technology.

With that said, it seems Rasulo's approach is to use existing technology for new attractions, or clone the crap out of anything that uses a technology that Disney develops.

Mummy is "just" a roller coaster yes, but used in an very creative and unique way. There is unlimited potential for this type of experience and my imagination goes in many directions when thinking about how this type of roller coaster/dark ride combination could be imagineered. I suspect Mummy is just the first of a new generation of immersive dark rides that provide experiences that people will find amazing in the truest since of the word. I think speed and inversions will not necessarily be what these type rides are best at. But rather moving riders through many environments with suprising, unpredictable, completely immersive effects. :dazzle:
 

Tom Morrow

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Now I know it's not the exact same thing, but aren't the tracks for SSE and Journey into Imagination derivations of coaster tracks? Obviously not built to withstand the forces created by faster speeds, but I really don't see this as any real new technology.
Well, Spaceship Earth is an omni-mover ride system. I guess you could compare RoTM's dark ride portion to Journey into Imagination in that individual trains progress through the scenes slowly on a coaster-like track. Its a completely different ride system, though. Journey's trains are motorized. RoTM's cars are like any other coaster train and cannot move on their own, and progress through the slow portions of the track using LIM technology.

Yes, the technology itsel isn't exactly new, but using an actual roller coaster ride system to incorporate a dark ride element before the coaster portion, is.
 

Mrs.Toad

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Totally agree with the ideas and statements above. I remember when Animal Kingdom opened. A beautiful park...but still. I was like, "What?" DHS has barely any attractions and MK and Epcot, especially WS, needs work. I think they should stop expanding, which it looks like they are for now, and start working with what they have. I don't think you plan for 4 separate parks and then drop the ball.

Also, I don't understand why they put the two largest draws in DHS (Aerosmith coaster & Tower) right next to each other. What about the rest of the park? I agree that there are too many shows. They can get expensive. Staff, costuming, sets, props, Etc. Invest the money in an attraction(s).

I feel for the neglected Muppets too. Love Muppet Vision, but I think their area needs additions by now.
 

Studios Fan

Active Member
Totally agree with the ideas and statements above. I remember when Animal Kingdom opened. A beautiful park...but still. I was like, "What?" DHS has barely any attractions and MK and Epcot, especially WS, needs work. I think they should stop expanding, which it looks like they are for now, and start working with what they have. I don't think you plan for 4 separate parks and then drop the ball.

Also, I don't understand why they put the two largest draws in DHS (Aerosmith coaster & Tower) right next to each other. What about the rest of the park? I agree that there are too many shows. They can get expensive. Staff, costuming, sets, props, Etc. Invest the money in an attraction(s).

I feel for the neglected Muppets too. Love Muppet Vision, but I think their area needs additions by now.

I agree. They need to expand and improve upon the parks that they already have.
 

DisneyDellsDude

New Member
I agree. They need to expand and improve upon the parks that they already have.
I agree here too.
They need to expand their current parks / refurb existing attractions.
IMO this should not just be the way to go for WDW, but for the company as a whole. I hope we don't get any more resorts after Shanghi is done for a long time.
 

dreamfinder

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Also, I don't understand why they put the two largest draws in DHS (Aerosmith coaster & Tower) right next to each other. What about the rest of the park?

Space. There is a parking lot entrance pretty much 30 ft or so from LMA & the back of Indy, and a major road a bit beyond Catastrophe Canyon. (If I remember correctly) Parking lot on the front side, so the only place to really build was in that direction. That said, initially there were plans to expand that way, I recall seeing plans for Roger Rabbit based stuff down there instead.
 

RSoxNo1

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Space. There is a parking lot entrance pretty much 30 ft or so from LMA & the back of Indy, and a major road a bit beyond Catastrophe Canyon. (If I remember correctly) Parking lot on the front side, so the only place to really build was in that direction. That said, initially there were plans to expand that way, I recall seeing plans for Roger Rabbit based stuff down there instead.

Yes, but the entire backlot area can conceivably be demolished and used as expansion space. I don't know the total size, but I'd imagine you could fit quite a bit back there... Say an entire [Cars] land?
 

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