AK Kali River accident 5/29

[brkgnews]

HIPA has made things even more restricted than before. You used to be able to at least get "Mr Dale Soandso remains in critical condition." but not anymore.

On the other end of the spectrum, I'll admit that I've stood on the back of a pickup truck before, parked at a public library across the street, with a shotgun lens on a video camera just to get generic video of the front of a hospital (no people) after not being allowed on property for generic b-roll. :lookaroun

 

[AEfx]

HIPA has made things even more restricted than before. You used to be able to at least get "Mr Dale Soandso remains in critical condition." but not anymore.

Yup, AFAIK now it's "One patient remains in critical condition, two other patients were released." And that's only for newsworthy events (major accidents, incidents like this, etc.) unless the patients themselves call a press conference. Occasionally when it involves a celebrity or politician or other known person they give permission for their name to be attached, but most "normal" people would never do that.

I keep reading about neck and back injuries, though. I hate to sound crass, but those words always sound litigious to me, LOL. We may know their names, every one, if they file a lawsuit. In this case, of course we don't have all the details, but if it really was the fault of the footbridge (those things freak me out - I would hate to be evaced that way on any ride) they seem wide open for a lawsuit or large settlement.

AEfx

 

[tigsmom]

As of the last update that I saw (around 7pm) all the injured have been treated and released...no admissions.

 

[brkgnews]

As of the last update that I saw (around 7pm) all the injured have been treated and released...no admissions.

Thank goodness. That's good news for EVERYONE involved.

 

[AEfx]

Thank goodness. That's good news for EVERYONE involved.

Agreed!

AEfx

 

[kathyjacks]

Not good news at all. First teens spitting on guests and now a bridge collapsed and hurt people, this is sad. So sorry to hear that news.

My family went to disney in april of 2006 for the first time for 10 days . We rode everything there was open to ride and I have to tell you I don't let my kids ride rides at carnivals or local fairs. I just don't feel they are safe and they are taken down and slapped back together all the time. I had no fear of safety at disney world. I would go tomorrow and let my children ride any ride there. Kali was one of our favorites and its such a tame ride I can't even imagine what went wrong. I am praying everyone is ok but people have to realize that disney world serves hundreds of thousands per day , millions per year and if this is the one accident this year or whatever timeperiod they have a pretty darn good track record. I think disney is as safe as it gets. Obviously things happen. We were just off mission space when the woman died on it. It was a terrible tragedy but I would let my children ride it again tomorrow. I obviously think this needs to be investigated and the ride needs to be really looked over to figure out why this happened to try to insure it doesn't happen again but as I said on our next trip there isn't a ride I wouldn't put my own family on and its unfortunate that this happened but disney is top notch and i have no doubt they will and have done everything they can to avoid these things. again my heart goes out to these families and I pray for everyone a quick recovery and hope we dont' hear of anything else happening. Its time for good news .

 

[PigletIsMyCat]

Just to share the info....

HIPAA is the Health Inusrance Portability/Accountability Act. This act covers numerous things in the health industry, including but not limited to patient privacy. This puts regulations in place relating to Protected Health Information, which is any info about health insurance information, payment for health care, actual status of health (including while in hopsital or applying for a job), and provision of health care. It is pertinent to all parts of a patient's medical records, including payment history.

The other things it covers have to do with providing or protecting current health insurance policies when a patient and their family during a change in jobs, whether due to layoffs or just getting a new job; it establishes a national standard for health care transactions and other plan information nationwide; and it also affects issuing eligibility rules on preexisting conditions, as well as enforcing certain rules and regulations on how health information is collected, recorded, stored, and shared by health insurance companies and health care providers.

HIPAA regulations would mean the hospital cannot release the names or exact diagnosis of any patient without the patient's consent. It also means that your doctor cannot give any medical-related information about you to anyone without WRITTEN consent from you. It also protects people from having potential or current employers gather medical information about you without your consent. Also, there are many regulations in effect under HIPAA that help cut down on health insurance fraud.

 

[KeithVH]

....3 years from now....

"we regret to inform the people of this country, that inspectors have found no WMD's at what was once the Happiest place on Earth...intial intellignce reports state that Disney's Animal Kingdom was actually <SNIP>

Eh, just more disinformation on the hidden missile silos in the castle.

 

[raven]

You must not live anywhere in the North East of the country, because that ride is the Ride of Death to most people who live within 5 states. Most people I know stay away from that park because of it - it's reputation was ruined for many.

Ah yes, the "Death Train" is what I've heard it refered to as. :lookaroun Rode it last year inspite of the accidents. One gets kind of a rush riding it knowing it could happen again.

 

[PigletIsMyCat]

Ah yes, the "Death Train" is what I've heard it refered to as. :lookaroun Rode it last year inspite of the accidents. One gets kind of a rush riding it knowing it could happen again.

Are you using the word 'rush' here in leiu of 'fear of gods', or possibly 'minor heart attack'?? LOL I would not be able to get on LINE for a ride that was being referred to as the 'Death Train'!!

 

[bliss]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/orl-bk-dizride052907,1,4449415.story?coll=chi-news-hed


This is one story about the problem

 

[raven]

Are you using the word 'rush' here in leiu of 'fear of gods', or possibly 'minor heart attack'?? LOL I would not be able to get on LINE for a ride that was being referred to as the 'Death Train'!!

Nope, we knew all about the accidents but still rode it...twice. This was less than a year after the accidents. I can't remember if it was this ride or not but I think that it was due to the operator error. After happening to this ride twice, Disney really beefed up it's training and safety guidline on BTMRR.

 

[AEfx]

Nope, we knew all about the accidents but still rode it...twice. This was less than a year after the accidents. I can't remember if it was this ride or not but I think that it was due to the operator error. After happening to this ride twice, Disney really beefed up it's training and safety guidline on BTMRR.

Right, there were two accidents. The one with the 20+ people hurt, and then the handicapped man who died in a seperate incident. I believe the latter was considered an operator error because he wasn't physically capable of being loaded and should not have been, but to be honest the details are hazy at this point. I would have to look up the details.

The point remains that SFNE is basically known for those accidents at this point. It was only what, the year after they opened? The park itself has been in operation since the mid-1800's (no, that's not a typo, lol), but Six Flags took it over in 2000, and I believe the accidents were in 2001. Nothing notable has happened/been added since then to capture the public attention, and I almost never hear someone speak of that park without someone mentioning the accidents.

So it's not just Disney...they are simply the biggest, and the best, so they get the most notice. But reputation follows all public entities.

AEfx, who has also been on the Ride of Death once since, but when the portion comes up when the guy died, after hearing graphically what happened, i have to say I wince a bit

 

[Gorjus]

He/she wont need to worry, when a cast member gets hurt that bad they are taken care of, not as well as the guests with "minor injuries" but Disney will still make it up to the cast member more then any other corporation would.

Modified Duty......RUN!!!!!!!

WDW is a big place and people get hurt everyday, sometimes we hear about it and other times not.

I have a cut on my hand from changing a water bottle on one of those giant water coolers. Should I file? See above freak out over modified duty

 

[disneydudette]

Speaking of Six Flags New England... outside of the Superman incidents does no one remember the raft that flipped on the river ride? I remember seeing the news with helecopter views of the ride and seeing the raft literally upside down... this was right before Six Flags took over the park -

(Friday, July 20, 2001) - Eight people who were injured when a raft capsized on the Blizzard River rapids ride at Riverside Park in Agawam, Massachusetts in 1999 have filed a lawsuit against the park, claiming that the park and its employees were negligent. The lawsuit claims, in part, that the park knew or should have known that Blizzard River rafts could capsize, and that it did not implement adequate safety procedures to protect riders from such potential dangers.
In 1999, Riverside Park was owned by Premier Parks, which eventually changed its name to Six Flags Inc. after buying the Six Flags theme park chain. The park is now known as Six Flags New England.

In regards to the accident...

I'm so glad that no one was seriously hurt. I'm sure as more time passes, we'll discover all incidents and actions that led to the accident, but for right now we can all breath a little easier that everyone was able "to walk away."

Accidents will always happen in any park... and as bad as this sounds... it usually helps prevent more acidents in the future. Maybe going forward Disneys takes a hard look at not just the evacuation system of this ride, but of other rides as well.

 

[Shiloh]

I wonder how long until the accident victims contact their lawyers and want $$$$ from the Mouse.

 

[CAPTAIN HOOK]

I wonder how long until the accident victims contact their lawyers and want $$$$ from the Mouse.

Oh I think the lawyers probably went looking for the victims

 

[Giraffe Lounge]

That's exactly what I thought of. There's no way they would have guests travelling under real construction equipment.

Isn't this happening right now at DCA where Mania is going up interwoven through California Screamin'?

 

[jperry1974]

Wow thanks for the info my family and I will be there June 10th.

 

[Sherrybaby]

HIPPA is not as wonderful as everyone thinks. I am power of attorney for my grandfather and he just had brain surgery. I have been very protective of him due to his side of the family being very manipulative and screaming at hospital personnel, which actually makes it worse for the patient in the long run.

This time I did not want his family to know he was readmitted into the hospital. I told his assisted living facility this and of course I signed all the HIPPA papers that said no information would be given out to anyone except for the people I have on my "ok" list. So his sister calls the facility and they told her he's at the hospital and now I'm on 24/7 watch for them at the hospital.

I called in to make a complaint about the facility and the woman on the phone (at the HIPPA headquarters) was very rude to me. I was on my cell phone and could not write down this website address. She said she'd send me the paperwork in the mail and never did.

I have had several other negative HIPPA experiences too. The hospitals/doctors may use HIPPA as a crutch and say they are following guidelines but they are not.

As far as the accident at Kali--it depresses me. Everyone is so active at WDW and puts themselves in all kinds of danger. We are much more active at WDW than probably anywhere else in our lives. Truly, WDW has so few accidents compared to all the movement that is going on in that park, and I understand that.

That being said--with all the stuff going on I just don't feel as much like it's my "safe" place anymore. Again, not Disney's fault--it's life--but it taints my view of my experience.

Sherry