Additional Info on "The Laugh Floor" storyline

[imagineer boy]

How do you know what time period the "attraction" takes place in???

I've never known Monsters to die...whose to say that this isn't the future?

Not buying it.:lol:

 

[Pongo]

Just because it doesn't particuarly fit the name, doesn't mean it doesn't fit. As said on the Disneyland show opening thing, Frontierland was "Tall tales and true of the legendary past." If it makes it into the time period, then that plays a MAJOR factor in the placement of the ride

BTW, Tom Sawyer doens't take place in the South. It takes place in Hannibal Missiouri which is a town along the Mississippi.:wave:

If you're accepting the stretch that it takes to make Tom Sawyer Island and Splash Mountain fit into Frontierland, why is it so hard to see the connection between TLF and Tomorrowland.

Sure, time period has a lot to do with synergy, but with TSI and SM, it's the ONLY thing in common with everything else. You could put ANYTHING in Frontierland if your only criteria was that it happened in the 1800s.

Back then, the frontier was that land which was unknown - i.e. the "wild frontier". It just so happened it was rustic and wilderness-y because it wasn't developed yet. If Frontierland is for rustic attractions, let's rename it to Rustic-Wildernessland. Then we can also change Tomorrowland into Science-Fictionland. Just for you

 

[wannab@dis]

Just because it doesn't particuarly fit the name, doesn't mean it doesn't fit. As said on the Disneyland show opening thing, Frontierland was "Tall tales and true of the legendary past." If it makes it into the time period, then that plays a MAJOR factor in the placement of the ride

BTW, Tom Sawyer doens't take place in the South. It takes place in Hannibal Missiouri which is a town along the Mississippi.:wave:

Maybe if you didn't actually like Splash Mtn, you wouldn't be arguing so hard to make a point that is impossible to make. Splash does NOT fit in Frontierland. :lookaroun

If you give TLF a chance, you may actually like it. You will NEVER like it with such a pessimistic view.

 

[wannab@dis]

How do you know what time period the "attraction" takes place in???

I've never known Monsters to die...whose to say that this isn't the future?

Time travelling doors... sweet.

I think I see an attraction there somewhere. :lookaroun

 

[DDuckFan130]

Not buying it.:lol:

No using of my phrases please

:lookaroun

Your time period argument is throwing me off. Explain Adventureland and Fantasyland to me with that argument :veryconfu

 

[Pongo]

Still, it doesn't take place in the future. Like I said, time period is a major factor.

Besides, aside from the traveling doors, the Monsters Inc world very much is similar to our present scociety ( just "monsterified" ).

If you have such a problem with time period, why aren't you going on about CoP, Space Mountian, TTA, and Indy?

CoP takes place in the PAST of all things.

We were travelling in space BEFORE Space Mountain was created.

Linear Induction motors are in all kinds of transportation systems these days.

And loud smelly cars may be futuristic, but those on the speedway are NOT.

And those were all New Tomorrowland originals.

Stop with the time period stuff already.

 

[CaptainMichael]

Time travelling doors... sweet.

I think I see an attraction there somewhere. :lookaroun

What I was saying was that this doesn't necessarily have to mirror the Monster's Inc "movie". This isn't a Fantasyland Dark Ride. We don't know the lifespan of a monster...

If anyone has concerns about an attraction fitting in Tomorrowland, it should be the rumored Incredibles attraction. I look forward to seeing the justification for that one.

 

[nibblesandbits]

Just because it doesn't particuarly fit the name, doesn't mean it doesn't fit. As said on the Disneyland show opening thing, Frontierland was "Tall tales and true of the legendary past." If it makes it into the time period, then that plays a MAJOR factor in the placement of the ride

BTW, Tom Sawyer doens't take place in the South. It takes place in Hannibal Missiouri which is a town along the Mississippi.:wave:

I guess the same could be said about Monster's Inc. in Tomorrowland then...

And Imagineer Boy is right...Tom Sawyer does take place in Hannibal, Missouri.

 

[nibblesandbits]

What I was saying was that this doesn't necessarily have to mirror the Monster's Inc "movie". This isn't a Fantasyland Dark Ride. We don't know the lifespan of a monster...

If anyone has concerns about an attraction fitting in Tomorrowland, it should be the rumored Incredibles attraction. I look forward to seeing the justification for that one.

I also couldn't agree more with that comment either. The Incredibles attraction is the stretch for me, but if explained well, then I probably could understand it. Doesn't make me happy about it...I do love COP. But at least I could understand it better.

 

[CaptainMichael]

And Imagineer Boy is right...Tom Sawyer does take place in Hannibal, Missouri.

Which even though it wasn't a part of the Confederate South, I still consider it to be southern. It really isn't the Frontier...

 

[imagineer boy]

CoP takes place in the PAST of all things.

Well, there is a scene in the not too distant future isn't there? Besides, Tomorrowland has the whole "Metro Retro Historical Scociety" thing going for it like dxwwf3 said.

We were travelling in space BEFORE Space Mountain was created.

Are we sending tourist into space every day? Do rockets launch around the far reaches of the galaxy at the speed of light like on the ride? Nope.

Linear Induction motors are in all kinds of transportation systems these days.

But not as much as the ones in new tomorrowland. The TTA is mainly an ambiance attraction. Nothing more. Its simply there to give the impression of "a world on the go" in the future, and give a nice ride the in process.

And loud smelly cars may be futuristic, but those on the speedway are NOT.

I agree. The speedway is out of place. I don't know why they didn't give it a face lift in the New Tomorrowland. One of these days, it will hopefully get a "Cosmic Highway" type of makeover.

And those were all New Tomorrowland originals.

No they're not. All of those attractions you listed were built during the time of the old tomorrowland, way before the New Tomorrowland makeover. The New Tomorrowland originals would be considered AE, Timekeepr, and Astro Orbiter.

Stop with the time period stuff already.

No.

 

[DDuckFan130]

Which even though it wasn't a part of the Confederate South, I still consider it to be southern. It really isn't the Frontier...

Exactly.

As far as I have learned in school, Mark Twain was considered southern.

Anyway, I agree with the Incredibles being a stretch. But I guess it really depends on whether it happens and what the ride will actually involve aside from the movie it would be based on.

 

[nibblesandbits]

Which even though it wasn't a part of the Confederate South, I still consider it to be southern. It really isn't the Frontier...

It was actually a neutral state. (I think...it's been a long time since I"ve been in a history class...and even though it's the state I live in...my memory is still fuzzy.)

To me it's kind of funny though...to hear where people think Missouri is located. We're pretty much in the middle of the US, but if you live south, usually you think we're north, if you live north, usually you think we're southern, if you live east, usually you think we're a western state, and if you live west, you think we're an eastern state. Missouri however is none of these things, technically. It is a central state.

Ok...back to the original conversation now.

 

[nibblesandbits]

As far as I have learned in school, Mark Twain was considered southern.

I think you're confusing him with the KFC guy! :lol:


Actually, when I think about him, I do consider him to be a southern type guy as well. But in reality, he wasn't from the south. He was from the midwest.

 

[imagineer boy]

Which even though it wasn't a part of the Confederate South, I still consider it to be southern. It really isn't the Frontier...

Technically, during the 1800s, anything west of the mississippi was considered the frontier.

And like Nibbs said, Missouri is considered a neautral state. Its definately not a southern state, and I can tell you that, because I live here.:lol: Technically, from Arkansas down, its the south.

 

[Pongo]

Well, there is a scene in the not too distant future isn't there? Besides, Tomorrowland has the whole "Metro Retro Historical Scociety" thing going for it like dxwwf3.

I KNEW you were going to say that.

If Tomorrowland can have a "Metro Retro Soceity" (whatever that really is), why can't they have a comedy club with sci-fi monsters?

 

[Pongo]

Technically, during the 1800s, anything west of the mississippi was considered the frontier.

And like Nibbs said, Missouri is considered a neautral state. Its definately not a southern state, and I can tell you that, because I live here.:lol: Technically, from Arkansas down, its the south.

WEST of the Mississippi and ON the Mississippi are two TOTALLY different things.

:brick:

 

[Goofybynature]

What I can't understand is why tomorrowland and fantasyland can't be used in a different manour. Fantasyland is and always will be for the younger guest and if we were to follow the trend of making it a place for everyone then it is well overdue for a thrill ride :dazzle: . But that wouldn't go because we all know and accept that fantasyland is were childrens movies and book come to life and it should definatly stay that way as long as disney exists. But tomorrowland is facing a crisis of identity, is it for kids or teens? In my eyes Disney are trying to mix the both. This is a giant step from when tomorrowland was first renovated back in 94 where rides like SM, AE and TK ruled and it was seen as teen/adult mixed theme. but the latest additions of rides suggest that they would rather make it a more child friendly place. I for one beleive the balance was perfect in 94, tomorrowland in my opinion should be a place for teens to go while mum dad and baby sis go on peter pan and dumbo. But I'm not a disney excutive so I don't no what the future may hold, maybe the pendulan of tomorrowland will swing back again towards thrill attractions if not so be it, but as long as tomorrowland exists I will be back.
As for turning MGM into a thrill park based disney park is not a bad idea as has already two top thrill attractions and could do with one or two more similiar (I want DLP or DL indiana Jones rides both are wicked!) but It still needs more children attractions like midway mania to make it an improved park.

Cheers

Stockers

 

[DDuckFan130]

I KNEW you were going to say that.

If Tomorrowland can have a "Metro Retro Soceity" (whatever that really is), why can't they have a comedy club with sci-fi monsters?

:lol:

This is great.

 

[imagineer boy]

WEST of the Mississippi and ON the Mississippi are two TOTALLY different things.

:brick:

So? It was on the western bank of the mississippi.