Additional Info on "The Laugh Floor" storyline

[PurpleDragon]

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Forgive me for not reading all 400 posts, but I just wanted to chime in with my two cents. The thing that bothers me first and formost about Monsters and MM is the apparent lack of AAs and dependancey on video technology.
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Yep, I love the awesome Stitch AA at SGE... :lookaroun

Well I have to admit I agree with him. WDI has made huge advances in AA technology, which believe it or not Stitch is represetative of that. The fact that alot of the newer attractions are using video technology as opposed to the AA technology is upsetting. I understand that video tech is cheaper to run/maintain than the AA's, but AA's have much more of a wow factor than images on a screen. WDI invented/streamlined the AA technology, I just don't understand why they don't stick with using them in their newer attractions.

PS-Yes I know EE has a massive Yeti AA, but thats the exception.

 

[wannab@dis]

Well I have to admit I agree with him. WDI has made huge advances in AA technology, which believe it or not Stitch is represetative of that. The fact that alot of the newer attractions are using video technology as opposed to the AA technology is upsetting. I understand that video tech is cheaper to run/maintain than the AA's, but AA's have much more of a wow factor than images on a screen. WDI invented/streamlined the AA technology, I just don't understand why they don't stick with using them in their newer attractions.

PS-Yes I know EE has a massive Yeti AA, but thats the exception.

Stitch is an incredible AA! The point I was alluding to is that a single element does not make the story or mean that an attraction will be a huge success. I think it's safe to say that Turtle Talk (using screen technology) is far more successful than SGE (using an AA and special effects).

Just because TLF is using video/screen technology does not mean it will not be a great attraction. I think most guest look at the overall experience of an attraction, not single elements such as screen / AA / theme / method / technology.

 

[CaptainMichael]

Well, our first taste of an AA with guest interaction was Lucky...perhaps they are still trying to perfect the technology before putting that into a large scale production...

 

[dxwwf3]

Just because TLF is using video/screen technology does not mean it will not be a great attraction.

I wouldn't say that at all, but wouldn't you be more excited about TLF if AA's of a large Sully and cool Mike were being used?

 

[CaptainMichael]

I wouldn't say that at all, but wouldn't you be more excited about TLF if AA's of a large Sully and cool Mike were being used?

More things can be done with computer animation on screens though, and Mike and Sully may come across better on screen. AA's are limited to what they can do.

 

[wannab@dis]

I wouldn't say that at all, but wouldn't you be more excited about TLF if AA's of a large Sully and cool Mike were being used?

Since we don't know the actual content of the attraction... no. I base that simply on the fact that Crush in Turtle Talk would not work as well as an AA. The interactivity with the audience would not be as good.

 

[dxwwf3]

I base that simply on the fact that Crush in Turtle Talk would not work as well as an AA. The interactivity with the audience would not be as good.

Since I haven't seen Turtle Talk, I guess I'll take your word for it. The way it looks is that the big thing about TT is that the mouth moves similar to how the actor is talking and it seems that could be done just as easy with AA's. But if that's not possible, I guess there's nothing they could do differently.

 

[polarboi]

The fact that alot of the newer attractions are using video technology as opposed to the AA technology is upsetting. I understand that video tech is cheaper to run/maintain than the AA's, but AA's have much more of a wow factor than images on a screen. WDI invented/streamlined the AA technology, I just don't understand why they don't stick with using them in their newer attractions.

I honestly don't think it's an either/or proposition. They've made several attractions recently which rely on video technology. Period. I don't think it's the beginning of an overall trend to build video-based attractions instead of AAs.

Sometimes, we have to take a step back and look at the big picture over a longer time span. Disney has been building screen-based attractions for a long time. Think Magic Journeys and Captain Eo. Think Making of Me and Body Wars. Think about the various films in World Showcase pavilions. The much beloved Horizons had a video segment in it, as did the Seabase Alpha-themed Living Seas. And the attraction being replaced by Monsters Inc, Timekeeper, was video-based as well.

Most of these attractions weren't even interactive in any way. They've been slowly going away while new, more interactive and innovative screen-based attractions are being built. Soarin' and Turtle Talk are two of my favorite new attractions, and they're doing very well with guests. There's nothing quite like them anywhere else.

That said, I agree that I'm starting to feel the screen-attraction overkill. It just happens that several recent additions have all used screen technology in various ways (M:S, Soarin', Turtle Talk) and a couple of new ones are planned to, from what we've been hearing (TLF, MM), so I'm starting to feel ready for some new AAs as well. And I'm sure we'll get them. We just have to be patient.

-p.b.

 

[wannab@dis]

Since I haven't seen Turtle Talk, I guess I'll take your word for it. The way it looks is that the big thing about TT is that the mouth moves similar to how the actor is talking and it seems that could be done just as easy with AA's. But if that's not possible, I guess there's nothing they could do differently.

It's much more than the mouth moving... Crush moves around, interacts and reacts. Some is pre-programmed but many sequences appear to be initiated by the improv. I can't believe that you skipped it during your last visit!

 

[PurpleDragon]

More things can be done with computer animation on screens though, and Mike and Sully may come across better on screen. AA's are limited to what they can do.

Not really, the advancements made in AA technology over the past few years has made AA's very flexible in what they can do.

But wannab@dis, as far as the quality of the attraction where the AA is being used, I agree turtle talk is more successfull than SGE, but lookat TTBAB, that seamlessly integrates both AA and 3D animation. Which is what I was referring to. I hope that same integration of 2 great technologies is used in TLF.

 

[wannab@dis]

Not really, the advancements made in AA technology over the past few years has made AA's very flexible in what they can do.

But wannab@dis, as far as the quality of the attraction where the AA is being used, I agree turtle talk is more successfull than SGE, but lookat TTBAB, that seamlessly integrates both AA and 3D animation. Which is what I was referring to. I hope that same integration of 2 great technologies is used in TLF.

Sure... if they can incorporate it, that would be great. But I don't see why anyone should be "less" excited by a new attraction soley based on the premise that it may not have an AA.

 

[CaptainMichael]

Not really, the advancements made in AA technology over the past few years has made AA's very flexible in what they can do.

Perhaps, but they are still limited to programing, etc. In this case, the capabilities of a computer-generated character "pwn" an AA.

 

[polarboi]

Since I haven't seen Turtle Talk, I guess I'll take your word for it. The way it looks is that the big thing about TT is that the mouth moves similar to how the actor is talking and it seems that could be done just as easy with AA's.

I really encourage you to check out Turtle Talk when you're able to. I think it's loads of fun. And part of what makes it so great is that Crush is full of expression. He swims around the tank in a way no AA could do and comes across as much more lifelike than any AA I've ever seen. But best of all, I've seen him put audiences in stitches by simply making a funny expression in response to an unusual question or moment in the show. His expressions are priceless, and that's part of what makes the show what it is.

Of course, you might see it and not care much for it. But at least check it out before making up your mind that it's not the best way to do things.

-p.b.

 

[dxwwf3]

It's much more than the mouth moving... Crush moves around, interacts and reacts. Some is pre-programmed but many sequences appear to be initiated by the improv. I can't believe that you skipped it during your last visit!

Well I know that he seems to look at the children when he talks to them and stuff like that, but I just figured that the AA's could turn or they could move the kids up to the AA's when they talk to them and whatnot.

I really just don't have much desire to see Turtle Talk. I've seen bits of it and it looks cute for kids, but we don't have any kids in our party and it certainly isn't something we are going to wait in line for. We might stumble upon it one day if there is NO LINE, but if I don't see it for a while, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Now I realise that it is popular and it is probably a wise move to add it to the MK because of its popularity and lack of Monsters Inc attractions, but it just doesn't interest me that much *shrug*.

 

[CaptainMichael]

Well I know that he seems to look at the children when he talks to them and stuff like that, but I just figured that the AA's could turn or they could move the kids up to the AA's when they talk to them and whatnot.

One day they may...

 

[dxwwf3]

I really encourage you to check out Turtle Talk when you're able to. I think it's loads of fun. And part of what makes it so great is that Crush is full of expression. He swims around the tank in a way no AA could do and comes across as much more lifelike than any AA I've ever seen. But best of all, I've seen him put audiences in stitches by simply making a funny expression in response to an unusual question or moment in the show. His expressions are priceless, and that's part of what makes the show what it is.

Of course, you might see it and not care much for it. But at least check it out before making up your mind that it's not the best way to do things.

-p.b.

As I just said, if we are ever in there when there isn't a line, we'll check it out. There was no way were going to wait in that 30 minute line for it this trip though.

 

[dxwwf3]

One day they may...

I thought the Stitch AA moved around just fine on the platform? Of course, since I'm trying to forget everything about that show animwink maybe my memory is failing.

 

[wannab@dis]

Well I know that he seems to look at the children when he talks to them and stuff like that, but I just figured that the AA's could turn or they could move the kids up to the AA's when they talk to them and whatnot.

I really just don't have much desire to see Turtle Talk. I've seen bits of it and it looks cute for kids, but we don't have any kids in our party and it certainly isn't something we are going to wait in line for. We might stumble upon it one day if there is NO LINE, but if I don't see it for a while, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Now I realise that it is popular and it is probably a wise move to add it to the MK because of its popularity and lack of Monsters Inc attractions, but it just doesn't interest me that much *shrug*.

There's much more to it than just "looking at the kids" during the show. Plus, it's not just a kids show. In fact, there was much more laughter from the adults in the theater the times I've seen it.

Embrace your inner child... you may just find that it's not that bad to feel and act like a kid while at WDW! :wave:

 

[CaptainMichael]

I thought the Stitch AA moved around just fine on the platform? Of course, since I'm trying to forget everything about that show animwink maybe my memory is failing.

But TLF is live, there is a difference.

 

[dxwwf3]

There's much more to it than just "looking at the kids" during the show. Plus, it's not just a kids show. In fact, there was much more laughter from the adults in the theater the times I've seen it.

Well that is pretty obvious considering the popularity for it right now. Me, I would rather spend that time doing something else in the best theme park in the world . I'll eventually get around to seeing it when the lines go down.