Bairstow
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Doesn't the very first sentence of the article say they're not?
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A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...
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the.dreamfinder
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You can be two things at once you know.
Bairstow
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It's not explicit, but taken together, Sunset Boulevard and the wdw version of ToT are set during the later stages of WWII. The tower opened in 1939 but you're seeing it after about half a decade of misuse.
FigmentJedi
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No, the accident was in 1939. The Tower opened in 1917 according to a plaque nearby.
Bairstow
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Ah, you're right.
Nubs70
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So, the Tower opened at the beginning of the end and the accident happened at the end of the beginning?
asianway
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I believe the Citizens act as though it is 1947
prberk
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Maybe you're the one that doesn't get out much. He was having fun at the park and in a good mood with his friend on the phone.
This is otherwise a rough-around-the-edges kid who grew up in a family that was all over the place and more-or-less left him and his brother to fend for themselves, with his brother in Florida with his dad and him with his mother in Virginia, but mostly fending for themselves in neighborhoods of street kids and drugs. I took him to WDW to visit with his brother and enjoy themselves while getting advice from his brother on plans for the future. So, yes, he was very familiar with the grit of the real world; and he clearly understood that he was in a fantasy world -- kind of like that park down the street with a big castle entering a fairy tale "kingdom" and a 1900-era Main Street.
He was enjoying the theme and having a great time. It really did what it was supposed to do ... transport him to "the Hollywood that never was, and always will be." The Hollywood of legend, not the drug addicts on Hollywood Blvd. -- any more than Main Street, USA, at MK includes undependable electric lights or overhead power lines that would have more likely been included in a picture of anytown's Main Street of the time.
My point is that the theming is cool and works, and that it's just that: theming, not reality. And that was always the added value of Walt Disney World's theme parks: They work well to transport you with well-done, even if fanciful, themes. Are there inconsistencies, yes (like working bathrooms in "Frontierland"); but overall the theming is fantastic and fun... if you allow it to be.
Sunset Blvd., with the Hollywood Tower Hotel particularly, works amazingly well, and the ride is one of the best to fit theme and function in any Disney park. It is timeless, just as timeless as any ride in Fantasyland, and works for both Twilight Zone fans and newbies. It should be kept. Guardians or any other IP would likely break theme dramatically, and should be done elsewhere.
Phicinfan
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So, here is the rub....
I wonder if we are not seeing two different issues.
One that seems to be missed here is the fact that WDW1974 is seeming to call out that the reskin of ToT is the start of a "Marvel area" for DHS - soon to be magical IP park....
While Marni keeps talking about a reboot of EPCOT to v.3, and the fact that both are stating there will be something done to UoE.
So maybe, just maybe both are right.
Lets remember the re-skin of the DL Tot is the start of that parks Marvel land. Would it be that big a surprise for another Disney rinse and repeat? I am also glad that WDW1974 has finally put to bed the Marvel issue for WDW. Yes, they can use Marvel and WILL. First with GotG and then more probably Dr. Strange and others. So we can finally stop all the wrangling around that.
As pointed out, we do have TS now in two parks with Space rangers in MK and TSMM in DHS, so two GotG rides isn't that big a stretch.
Incomudro
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Remember the show?
They run marathons of it every year.
My sons (14 years old) know it.
"Twilight Zone" is part of the vocabulary and at the very least, people know it was a tv show.
Incomudro
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Oh, I see...
Because there is a longer version 3,000 miles away on the opposite coast, the WDW version that is a favorite of millions (most of whom have never seen and will never see the California version) for decades is not a classic.
Ok.
Bairstow
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Who's "they"?
Anyway, my point to @jt04 was that at this point, "Twilight Zone" has dropped so far off the current pop culture landscape that it is not, (as he suggested) likely that all the other theme parks out there are waiting in the wings to license their own "Twilight Zone" attractions should Disney end their license, and if they DID it would only be out of a desire to capitalize on the theme park connotations Disney has already built up and not the cachet of the show itself.
Eye Of the beholder and all that.
I thought the Wdw version was good. Then I rode the DLP version. And then the DL version.
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AEfx
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As I posted earlier, the show is indeed being rebooted as we speak. Earlier in the thread I speculated it might be, but then I looked it up and it's actually a thing.
While we can debate about the old show, the truth is between parody and other appearances in pop culture, including the ToT but certainly not limited to it, the name and the theme music are well known cultural icons, even today. They are the main anchor of the IP, given its anthology nature.
http://www.thewrap.com/twilight-zone-is-getting-an-interactive-reboot-exclusive/
Stevek
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And therein lies the biggest problem for the future of the resort, for those that are disappointed by changes like Guardians Tower or Star Wars Land...people are not voting with their wallets and staying away. In fact, as you point out, they are spending more (or at least above forecasts). The vast majority of visitors really don't care about these changes and just enjoy coming with their family to experience the parks, that despite these changes are basically the same parks they've enjoyed for decades (at least for DL).
As long as Disneyland/DCA continues to be packed to the gills, why would Chappie and Colglazier even begin to care what the online community says? We, quite honestly, are a vocal minority. And really, a week after Guaradians Tower opens up most folks will completely forget about why they complained in the first place (and probably be raving about what a great experience it is). As for SW Land, heck, that will only further reaffirm to DL mgmt that they are making the right decisions as parks will likely be far more packed than we are seeing right now.
"Di$neyland will never be completed as long a$ gue$t$ continue to moan about everything we do but $till continue to pour through the gate$" - Walt Chapek
Bairstow
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The Black Mirror Tower of Terror?
Stevek
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Yes, it's a butchered Cliff Notes version but it's clearly a fan favorite out here, even in it's inferior form. I've ridden both, love them both. For some folks, it seems like it's not ok that we love the DCA version because it's not as good as the DHS version.
That's never really been the issue. Just what marvel IP can be used. As more IP has been introduced not covered by the contact then the choice for WDW has grown.
Expect changes to the original contract anyway. Not that the details may ever be fully made public.
Epcot v3 seems to be the long term home of Marvel IP in WDW. DHS may have minor diversions but the meat is proposed to be in the second gate.
Bairstow
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Maybe it's because both Pirates rides have been running for decades, whereas Florida's version of the Tower is old enough to vote and California's isn't.