A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

andre85

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Man that is just stupid... you need to relax and just enjoy it. The place looks amazing. Don't judge it buy unfinished process

Right, since when did theming matter in a theme park? And why is it okay for you to judge an unfinished product, but I can't?

For the record, I'm looking forward to VB and I'm sure I'll have a great time. That doesn't mean it's flawless
 

Mike S

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20 years later, and Universal hasn't developed the tech to hide waterslide infrastructure...
If we're being totally fair,
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The new raft ride looks to be a bit exposed as well.
2-Miss-Fortune-Falls-Full-Concept-Art-Mickey-Views-e1477000608877.jpg

These types of slides aren't as easy to hide as the flat ones that could just be put on a mountain side and color blended.
 

andre85

Well-Known Member
If we're being totally fair,
crush-n-gusher-gallery01.jpg

The new raft ride looks to be a bit exposed as well.
2-Miss-Fortune-Falls-Full-Concept-Art-Mickey-Views-e1477000608877.jpg

These types of slides aren't as easy to hide as the flat ones that could just be put on a mountain side and color blended.

And I made a similar complaint about Crush 'N' Gusherslides too in an earlier thread, with the theming not being up to far with the rest of the park. Although Disney still at least attempted some theme with the factory idea--regardless, it's a small subset of slides as opposed to nearly all of them shown off in the VB video.

Also, "not as easy to theme" does not mean "impossible"
 
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spacemt354

Chili's
If we're being totally fair,
crush-n-gusher-gallery01.jpg

The new raft ride looks to be a bit exposed as well.
2-Miss-Fortune-Falls-Full-Concept-Art-Mickey-Views-e1477000608877.jpg

These types of slides aren't as easy to hide as the flat ones that could just be put on a mountain side and color blended.
In my opinion, those are more properly themed/designed than the purple and green tubes coming out of a Volcano. Again -- just my tastes.

If somehow in the story of Volcano Bay -- purple and green colored tubes are a part of the story, I'll take back my opinion.
 

gmajew

Premium Member
Right, since when did theming matter in a theme park? And why is it okay for you to judge an unfinished product, but I can't?

For the record, I'm looking forward to VB and I'm sure I'll have a great time. That doesn't mean it's flawless


I am not judging it I am saying it is a good cool addition and we should be happy. Sure it may have flaws but relax as from what we have seen it looks cool and is formsure a good park. Seeing tubes to me at least not a reason to cry.
 

andre85

Well-Known Member
I am not judging it I am saying it is a good cool addition and we should be happy. Sure it may have flaws but relax as from what we have seen it looks cool and is formsure a good park. Seeing tubes to me at least not a reason to cry.

"The place looks amazing." is a judgement. So is "the theming could be better"

I explained my reasons. Call it "crying" if you want--you don't have to agree
 

Quinnmac000

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You do know those themed slides at Typhoon lagoon and Blizzard beach are a lot harder to replace due to the fact they are enclosed into the theming and costs them way more and leads to the downtime hints the long refurb times
 

lazyboy97o

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I just don't understand why it's a huge deal there are exposed water slides? Like who cares?
The concept of masking ride systems and infrastructure is not in anyway new to themed entertainment.

If we're being totally fair,
crush-n-gusher-gallery01.jpg

The new raft ride looks to be a bit exposed as well.
2-Miss-Fortune-Falls-Full-Concept-Art-Mickey-Views-e1477000608877.jpg

These types of slides aren't as easy to hide as the flat ones that could just be put on a mountain side and color blended.
The old slides are not flat and there is nothing more difficult about new slides and their technology that makes them more difficult to mask. The mountain solution looks great but it requires park-sized build out. The costs are very high for a singular addition, not to mention the additional costs of dealing with a structure and all of that water.
 

Quinnmac000

Well-Known Member
Having great show is hard work, I agree. It's a worthwhile sacrifice

A sacrifice that took away from more attractions. If Universal wasted all that money to mask and hide the slides, it would take tons of space for slides and other attractions just for unusable space. That's doesn't benefit the consumer who now due to less capacity now is forced to wait longer to do attractions or feels like they paid too much for a water park. Typhoon lagoon is larger than VB and with less attractions by 6 will be 5 once they open the new ride.

Same thing with Blizzard beach at 12 attractions in comparsion to VB's 18.
 

andre85

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A sacrifice that took away from more attractions. If Universal wasted all that money to mask and hide the slides, it would take tons of rooms for slides and other attractions just for unusable space. That's doesn't benefit the consumer. Typhoon lagoon is larger than VB and with less attractions by 6 will be 5 once they open the new ride.

Same thing with Blizzard beach at 12 attractions in comparsion to VB's 18.

I'll take quality over quantity any day. That's why I go to Disney and Universal and not other parks like Six Flags
 

JoeCamel

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It's an opinion. You're entitled to yours; I'm entitled to mind. I think the unthemed and exposed slides takes away from the magnificence of the volcano, and the general setting. It's a constant reminder you're in a water park and not an island paradise

I think you are missing the larger theme. It is "Hey this is a cool water park with a yuuuge volcano as it's center piece". This is presented to everyone driving up I-4. A yugggeee billboard if you will. They could have enclosed the south side of the volcano but they chose to use it to advertise they have a water park (themed park) there. Now I have to mention the top of the volcano's south side that they bothered to firmly point at lands south. Can you see what it looks like yet?
 

andre85

Well-Known Member
I think you are missing the larger theme. It is "Hey this is a cool water park with a yuuuge volcano as it's center piece".

I didn't miss that larger theme--that's the basis of my complaint: it looks like a water park with a volcano plopped down on it, which is why I originally responded (all those posts ago) to the post Disney's parks were lesser-themed.

What I'm saying is Universal could have themed everything else to blend into the volcano's surface--it would not at all detract from it as the centerpiece and billboard. Hell, it would add to it, just like how Summit Plummet is enhanced by the surrounding mountain
 
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Mike S

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Volcano-Bay-Full-Reveal-4.jpg


Really not s big thing based on this art work.
The green almost blends in with the trees in that shot.
The concept of masking ride systems and infrastructure is not in anyway new to themed entertainment.


The old slides are not flat and there is nothing more difficult about new slides and their technology that makes them more difficult to mask. The mountain solution looks great but it requires park-sized build out. The costs are very high for a singular addition, not to mention the additional costs of dealing with a structure and all of that water.
I meant flat as in not the large pipe shape.
 

Quinnmac000

Well-Known Member
I'll take quality over quantity any day. That's why I go to Disney and Universal and not other parks like Six Flags

Quality has to meet the price. DHS with half the park closed at 100 bucks for a single day for 10 attractions or Six Flags Magic Mountain with 18 coasters not to include flat rides for 74.99 season pass that can be used all year.Hmm.....six flags may not be 'themed" but I'm getting more bang for my buck.
 

DinoInstitute

Well-Known Member
If we're being totally fair,
crush-n-gusher-gallery01.jpg

These types of slides aren't as easy to hide as the flat ones that could just be put on a mountain side and color blended.
In my opinion I think that actually looks a lot better. Yes it's exposed slide, but it is themed. The netting and aging are pretty simple theming, but I think they go a very long way in making it look better. The neon tubes stick out a lot more and don't quite blend in with the environment.
 

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