A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

[Katie G]

I love how excited everybody is getting over this incredibly vague video with pretty much no details other than a lot of buzzwords. Not to mention how long ago the Nintendo announcement was, and this is the only information they can give us after all that time? If Disney had released that video under similar circumstances, it would have been torn to pieces. Not to mention the turn around time between the Nintendo announcement and the apparent opening timeframes for the lands. Yet when Disney has similar time tables, they're taking forever.

And... now we're considering Volcano Bay to be a theme park? So WDW has six gates then? C'mon.

I love Universal too and think they're doing a lot of really quality work right now, but this all feels a little hypocritical.

I completely agree. There is a double standard for the parks which I have pointed out before and been slammed for.

Also, wasn't Nintendo in Orlando originally rumored to replace Woody Woodpecker Kidzone? So a replacement and not something brand new? Or have plans changed and this could become something bigger in a 3rd Theme Park for USF?

 

[gorillaball]

If that ain't a theme park built around water I don't know what is.

Is the highway 50 yards from the volcano one of the rides? A test track clone maybe?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I see where you're coming from. I too was wondering what the fate of Star Wars would be. Even with that issue, I suspect they'll retheme Hyperspace Mountain anyway. Disney is no longer interested in just having a SciFi themed area. They want Lands that are tied fully to IPs. The one clear odd one out is Space Mountain.

With so many Space IPs to choose from like Doctor Strange, GotG, and even Thor there are lots of options.

They'll probably redo the area as like a super secure base of operations for all the different characters and for some reason you are allowed to visit for a day. I'm not sure why the defunct Shield is there. Or why Tony Stark is having an Expo in a secure base, but you just have to go with it! Why? Because it's Marvel!

More blood is being spilled trying to get this through:
New People’s Party deputy chair Michael Tien puk-sun says he will not support Disneyland’s HK$10.9 billion expansion plan in the Finance Committee unless the government negotiates a better deal.

This came a day after lawmakers from across the political spectrum grilled the government and demanded justification for injecting HK$5.8 billion of taxpayers’ money into Hong Kong Disneyland’s expansion project.

A non-binding motion submitted by Tien to delay the expansion plan was passed by members of the Legislative Council economic development panel – a bipartisan feat which Tien said he was “surprised” to see happen.

“Royalties are not linked to profit but linked to turnover. If there are more visitors, this will go up. But who will gain most from this $11 billion investment? It has to be Disney,” he said.

Tien urged the government to bargain for a cap on the management fee and royalty payments, which would be deferred to balance the books in the event of a loss. He also said there was no rule that the government always had to have more than 50 per cent of the park’s shares and suggested lowering its stake progressively.


http://m.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/ec...-deal-disney-npp-deputy-chair-urges-hong-kong

I wonder if there is anything in the ownership agreements that would prevent the Government from selling their shares in Hongkong International Theme Parks to someone besides Disney.

Do you think Universal realizes they have a park in Singapore?

The wording was just very odd ball, Mark should have said 3 of our resorts, not 'all of our' resorts. That's the biggest thing I learned, such passive aggressiveness to Singapore

Universal Studios Singapore is not owned by Comcast, so it wouldn't be "their" park.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

If that ain't a theme park built around water I don't know what is.

It's still a water park. A very cool looking water park, but a water park. Despite what Universal's marketting has been saying, a water park is just a different experience than a theme park. Unless this water park is a significantly changed experience, a nighttime light show and fake volcano isn't going to change the fact that waterparks are wandering around in a bathing suit slathered in sunblock for hours while riding slides.

Waterparks are just a fundamentally different experience than theme parks.

 

[Master Yoda]

That is how Disney markets the parks in the UK

Disney has their own UK site.

http://www.disneyholidays.co.uk/walt-disney-world/

The links you gave are from a third party re-seller that has no official connection to Disney outside of selling tickets. They are no different than Orlando Fun Tickets, Maple Leaf Tickets or any one of several other third party sellers.

http://www.attraction-tickets-direct.co.uk/about-us

 

[JoeCamel]

Is the highway 50 yards from the volcano one of the rides? A test track clone maybe?

Closer than that to one of the slides

 

[mgpan]

At least this park or whatever nomenclature you prefer to use actually HAS rides, water or not. Or, at least more than 4 of them.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

Disney has their own UK site.

http://www.disneyholidays.co.uk/walt-disney-world/

The links you gave are from a third party re-seller that has no official connection to Disney outside of selling tickets. They are no different than Orlando Fun Tickets, Maple Leaf Tickets or any one of several other third party sellers.

http://www.attraction-tickets-direct.co.uk/about-us

It definitely says 6 parks, but it also is also quick to clarify 4 theme parks and 2 water parks right after anywhere I looked. It never claims to have 6 theme parks. Still misleading, in my opinion, but it does make a distinction between theme parks and water parks.

 

[Master Yoda]

It definitely says 6 parks, but it also is also quick to clarify 4 theme parks and 2 water parks right after anywhere I looked. It never claims to have 6 theme parks. Still misleading, in my opinion, but it does make a distinction between theme parks and water parks.

Which site? The official Disney site or the Attraction Ticket Direct site?

 

[JoeCamel]

Disney has their own UK site.

http://www.disneyholidays.co.uk/walt-disney-world/

The links you gave are from a third party re-seller that has no official connection to Disney outside of selling tickets. They are no different than Orlando Fun Tickets, Maple Leaf Tickets or any one of several other third party sellers.

http://www.attraction-tickets-direct.co.uk/about-us

Well lets see, when you purchase a ticket from them you get a real ticket not a voucher. Disney is well aware of how they do business and how they represent Disney yet has not issued the cease and desist notice. This is the #1 place to get WDW/Orlando tickets in the UK. That does not have the blessing of TWDC?

 

[Pi on my Cake]

Which site? The official Disney site or the Attraction Ticket Direct site?

The Disney site. you click that link and then pick to buy tickets. It gives different cattegories for stuff. One category is "6 parks" with the subheader "4 theme parks and 2 water parks"

 

[Master Yoda]

Well lets see, when you purchase a ticket from them you get a real ticket not a voucher. Disney is well aware of how they do business and how they represent Disney yet has not issued the cease and desist notice. This is the #1 place to get WDW/Orlando tickets in the UK. That does not have the blessing of TWDC?

No matter how you want to try and spin it, it is not official Disney marketing.

Show me official Disney made marketing claiming 6 theme parks and you will be correct.

 

[seascape]

It's still a water park. A very cool looking water park, but a water park. Despite what Universal's marketting has been saying, a water park is just a different experience than a theme park. Unless this water park is a significantly changed experience, a nighttime light show and fake volcano isn't going to change the fact that waterparks are wandering around in a bathing suit slathered in sunblock for hours while riding slides.

Waterparks are just a fundamentally different experience than theme parks.

I agree it's just a water park. Also I expected the volcano to cover much more of the slides. It does look like a very good water park and maybe one of the best but since the parking is so far away from the park I don't think it will draw as well from off site hotels and locals as some here think. I don't stay at WDW for either of their water parks and if they were not included in my Annual Pass I wouldn't use them. The only reason I go each one once a year is I make 3 or 4 trips a year. No should pay what Disney or Universal charge for the extra day at one of these grossly over priced water parks, they are only another way for these 2 greedy companies to take more money from tourists.

 

[marni1971]

I completely agree. There is a double standard for the parks which I have pointed out before and been slammed for.

Also, wasn't Nintendo in Orlando originally rumored to replace Woody Woodpecker Kidzone? So a replacement and not something brand new? Or have plans changed?

Originally, yes. Plans could be changing. Rather, they are changing. By how much remains to be publicly announced.

 

[marni1971]

Disney has their own UK site.

http://www.disneyholidays.co.uk/walt-disney-world/

The links you gave are from a third party re-seller that has no official connection to Disney outside of selling tickets. They are no different than Orlando Fun Tickets, Maple Leaf Tickets or any one of several other third party sellers.

http://www.attraction-tickets-direct.co.uk/about-us

Well lets see, when you purchase a ticket from them you get a real ticket not a voucher. Disney is well aware of how they do business and how they represent Disney yet has not issued the cease and desist notice. This is the #1 place to get WDW/Orlando tickets in the UK. That does not have the blessing of TWDC?

In the U.K., Disney market WDW as having six parks.

The distinction between theme and water park comes later.

 

[truecoat]

In the U.K., Disney market WDW as having six parks.

The distinction between theme and water park comes later.

That settles that as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

I completely agree. There is a double standard for the parks which I have pointed out before and been slammed for.

Also, wasn't Nintendo in Orlando originally rumored to replace Woody Woodpecker Kidzone? So a replacement and not something brand new? Or have plans changed and this could become something bigger in a 3rd Theme Park for USF?

Yes, they are replacing a B Ticket kiddie coaster, a Barney stage show and a ball pit with 3 E Tickets and 2 C Tickets along with an entire themed land. And it will be brand new. They aren't going to paint Donkey Kong onto the Woodpecker Coaster and call it a new attraction like Frozenstrom.

What's your point?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Meh, will it be immersive or slapdash overlays and plastic mushrooms? If it's like Seussland, it'll be crappy.

Haha, that's a funny one.

It will a lot like how Universal Creative painted Harry Potter on the Jaws boats and called it Frozen Ever After.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

To me, Suessland feels a LOT like ToonTown. To me, it's cheap, plastic, "just above six flags" level theming. but that's just me.

Yeah, that's just you. Seuss Landing was not cheap and it is not plastic. They developed a brand new building technique where each building facade is entirely hand carved styrofoam covered in stucco covered Kevlar.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

I don't think I've ever been this excited for something Universal was doing. While Harry Potter has great attractions, I have no real connection to that franchise. The thought of walking through Peach's castle or riding a Donkey Kong mine cart coaster gets me so excited!