CaptainAmerica
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Video games are a niche market, it's as simple as that. The demographics here skew within that niche so I don't think that the comments we're seeing are a representative sample.
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A Spirited Perfect Ten
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Skip
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This, this, this, this, this. If there was a chance for 10x the efficiency with Maelstrom, why wasn't it already being done? We already speed through the scenes.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
I wasn't asking because I couldn't think of anything...I was asking because I wanted people's opinions on whether every part has to be interactive or not...to paraphrase.
Skip
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It's one of the top trends on Facebook and was the top global trend on Twitter earlier. It's made the news in every major publication.
It really isn't a niche. It's like this is the new form of "Potter is just a fad..." Sour grapes indeed.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Who said Potter was a fad?
Obviously it's going to trend on social media. The social media demographic is the same people that are skewing the opinion here. The core audience of WDW/Universal wasn't tweeting about Nintendo today, they were at their jobs earning a paycheck. The people tweeting about it were fanboiis in their underpants playing Black Ops.
FigmentJedi
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A "niche market" that makes billions of dollars a year.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
LOTS and LOTS of people when it was announced....many pixie dusters
danlb_2000
Premium Member
I think it would be foolish to to create attractions based on a videogame without some kind of game element.
Skip
Well-Known Member
You don't understand demographics of video games, then. You think the fanbois (nice derogatory description there by the way) are the people making up the 10 million sales of Black Ops # whatever?
Families love to game. You'd be shocked how many 13 year olds play Call of Duty or Super Smash Bros. Mario Kart is nuts. It's huge, and if you're really going to pretend it's some weird little niche, you need a reality check.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Understood. But they make their money from a different crowd than the folks who do family vacations to Orlando.
I think Universal made a mistake going with the "live action" version of Potter, as I believe the novels will prove to have more longevity than the films. But I feel the same way about Pirates. I think that's fair and consistent. A criticism of Universal that isn't based on pixie dusting.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
To be fair, they HAVE had to continually add attractions every year to keep their numbers up. 
danlb_2000
Premium Member
It's quite clear that is was not a mistake. The Harry Potter lands have been a huge success already so even if people were to loose interest in a couple years, which I doubt they will, Uni will have gotten more then their money's worth out of them.
Skip
Well-Known Member
This is a terrible argument, because either:
A) What you're saying is crap, and therefore families who vacation may decide to go to Universal rather than elsewhere, or,
B) What you're saying is true, and therefore Universal might attract a demographic who wouldn't otherwise vacation there.
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danlb_2000
Premium Member
To be fair, they HAVE had to continually add attractions every year to keep their numbers up.
We will see, Uni isn't opening an new rides this year, but they are already had huge gains in the first quarter.
Spirited Laugher of the Day:
OK, y'all (or likely a few of you) may have a recollection of Lee MacDonald. He was the publisher/owner of the truly quality publication Tales From the Laughing Place years ago. A fanzine that sorta died soon after D23 began publishing a much lower quality BRAND advocating product.
Leemac and I used to butt heads frequently on anotherdisneyplace.com's discussion boards because his views were so politicized and he always was on the side of anyone who had power at the moment. He also had strong dislike of top popular creatives such as John Lasseter and Tony Baxter. He worked as a contractor for Disney in a limited number-crunching role that he turned into a huge gadfly opportunity. In other words, he was great at sounding like he knew what he was talking on any Disney topic about because he'd take some gossip, mix in a healthy dose of industry jargon and top off with the agenda of the people he was most closely working for/with.
I only bring him up because he's been doing quite a bit of yacking (as my Spirited grandfather was fond of saying) about yours truly and the news I have broken and/or spread here on MAGIC regarding Disney's developments overseas. In other words, he -- like so many out there in the fan community and with Disney and UNI -- just can't quit me. I suppose I should be flattered.
What I find astounding is that Lee has apparently -- while putting down former Shanghai Disney GM and President of the Walt Disney Holding Company of Shanghai Mike Crawford in his typical uppity UK way -- said that not only was the Four Seasons position not created expressly for Crawford (it was) but that he himself was asked to interview for the job and declined because he lacked the requisite 'skill set.'
Yes, it's preposterous.
I'm often accused of having a large ego (amongst other large things) and being a narcissist, but I almost couldn't stop laughing when I heard of something so utterly over the top. Perhaps, he's looking for me to head back to LP.com and add some traffic and excitement to a dead site (or that could be my ego talking). But, really, making crap like that up just shows how some of the former 'mighty' voices of the Early Disney Internet Fan Community have struggled to find relevance in this decade. FWIW, my old pal Georgie K did try and get me to come and work at Disney multiple times. But he never offered me his old position as EPCOT VP, nor did I refuse said imaginary offer because my skill set wasn't a good fit. And Michael Eisner never offered me a position with Disney at all, but he did offer me some amazing Chinese food from a place in Westwood once.
The job offer Leemac is crowing about is about as real as his office at Disney's Asia Pacific HQ in Hong Kong. Yeah, it doesn't exist either.
As we have a troll in our midst yet again, I thought it was fitting to talk a bit about people who truly know what they are talking about ... and those who simply sound like authorities (for slow people that might be someone like a Jim Hill). You take a take a grain of truth amidst a desert of sand and concoct a rational sounding narrative around it.
That's not me. That's not folks here like @Lee and @whylightbulb and @articos and @marni1971 and @ParentsOf4 and multiple others I am failing to list.
Now, I need to return a phone call from Bill Davis. Maybe he'll make me head of UNI's new water park so I can take over the entire resort in 2020.
OK, y'all (or likely a few of you) may have a recollection of Lee MacDonald. He was the publisher/owner of the truly quality publication Tales From the Laughing Place years ago. A fanzine that sorta died soon after D23 began publishing a much lower quality BRAND advocating product.
Leemac and I used to butt heads frequently on anotherdisneyplace.com's discussion boards because his views were so politicized and he always was on the side of anyone who had power at the moment. He also had strong dislike of top popular creatives such as John Lasseter and Tony Baxter. He worked as a contractor for Disney in a limited number-crunching role that he turned into a huge gadfly opportunity. In other words, he was great at sounding like he knew what he was talking on any Disney topic about because he'd take some gossip, mix in a healthy dose of industry jargon and top off with the agenda of the people he was most closely working for/with.
I only bring him up because he's been doing quite a bit of yacking (as my Spirited grandfather was fond of saying) about yours truly and the news I have broken and/or spread here on MAGIC regarding Disney's developments overseas. In other words, he -- like so many out there in the fan community and with Disney and UNI -- just can't quit me. I suppose I should be flattered.
What I find astounding is that Lee has apparently -- while putting down former Shanghai Disney GM and President of the Walt Disney Holding Company of Shanghai Mike Crawford in his typical uppity UK way -- said that not only was the Four Seasons position not created expressly for Crawford (it was) but that he himself was asked to interview for the job and declined because he lacked the requisite 'skill set.'
Yes, it's preposterous.
I'm often accused of having a large ego (amongst other large things) and being a narcissist, but I almost couldn't stop laughing when I heard of something so utterly over the top. Perhaps, he's looking for me to head back to LP.com and add some traffic and excitement to a dead site (or that could be my ego talking). But, really, making crap like that up just shows how some of the former 'mighty' voices of the Early Disney Internet Fan Community have struggled to find relevance in this decade. FWIW, my old pal Georgie K did try and get me to come and work at Disney multiple times. But he never offered me his old position as EPCOT VP, nor did I refuse said imaginary offer because my skill set wasn't a good fit. And Michael Eisner never offered me a position with Disney at all, but he did offer me some amazing Chinese food from a place in Westwood once.
The job offer Leemac is crowing about is about as real as his office at Disney's Asia Pacific HQ in Hong Kong. Yeah, it doesn't exist either.
As we have a troll in our midst yet again, I thought it was fitting to talk a bit about people who truly know what they are talking about ... and those who simply sound like authorities (for slow people that might be someone like a Jim Hill). You take a take a grain of truth amidst a desert of sand and concoct a rational sounding narrative around it.
That's not me. That's not folks here like @Lee and @whylightbulb and @articos and @marni1971 and @ParentsOf4 and multiple others I am failing to list.
Now, I need to return a phone call from Bill Davis. Maybe he'll make me head of UNI's new water park so I can take over the entire resort in 2020.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
That quarter is well within Year 1 of Potter Phase 2.
Not at all. But instead of making simply kiddie attractions, if you can call the Casey Jr Play While You Pee Fountain an attraction (and it must be because my outlet store is liquidating pins from it for $1.99), like Disney, UNI is making a family area with multiple attractions that all ages should be able to enjoy.
UNI is finally waking up that it needs family attractions. Disney used to be king of family attractions. Now, they like to segregate age groups. Unless, Jake and the Neverland Pirates Dance Party is aimed at my demo and I'm missing something big.
danlb_2000
Premium Member