A Spirited Perfect Ten

[ParentsOf4]

If they build out Star Wars Land and there is no Cantina it will be a huge mistake. All we hear about is how everything Disney does is geared towards toddlers.

Did someone mention Star Wars and strollers in the same paragraph?

 

[lobelia]

Are those yours?

 

[lobelia]

Boy do I feel like a slacker star wars fan/parent!

 

[Tigger1988]

Tomorrowland isn't a remake.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

6 "original" films, 5 excluding Bridge (Inside Out, Bridge of Spies, The Good Dinosaur, The Finest Hours, Zootopia, Moana)
9 sequels (Age of Ultron,The Force Awakens, Alice Through The Looking Glass, Captain America:Civil War, Finding Dory, Guardians 2, Episode 8, Pirates 5, Toy Story 4)
4 Adaptations of non-"Disney" works (The BFG, Ghost in the Shell, Doctor Strange, Black Panther)
4 Live-Action remakes of "Disney" works (Tomorrowland, Jungle Book, Pete's Dragon, Beauty and the Beast)

Tomorrowland is not a live action remake, it's an "original" film.

 

[Rasvar]

Did someone mention Star Wars and strollers in the same paragraph?

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Those might be the only strollers that could hit my ankle and not make me mad.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Did someone mention Star Wars and strollers in the same paragraph?

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Well damn.

How many bothans died for those plans?

 

[NearTheEars]

I've said this before, but I've done F&W multiple times, usually me with one other person. We basically start from opening until Illuminations, and we hit as many booths as we can, sharing a food or beverage from each one so that we don't get full from one booth and we get to taste as much as possible. We tallied it up one day, and it came out to be that we spent something like $73 a person. Now, in my opinion, $73 is not that bad considering we both ate and drank ALL day (while staying comfortably full and buzzed). In fact, I'd almost say it's pretty affordable considering it is in WDW. Yes, it's not cheap. But is anything cheap in WDW?

Agreed. We average about $90 between the two of us, and we don't really share any of the drinks. We do share the food though.

ETA: didn't see the per person part. That would be a little too much for us. But I guess we don't spend the whole day in WS. Only about half.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Some people refuse to acknowledge that Walt liked his drink

I haven't heard anyone say that Walt didn't drink. In fact anyone that has read anything about him at all know he did. However, he, whose opinions are worshiped otherwise, didn't want it in public in his park. Apparently that part of his philosophy was baloney when all the rest were like the word of god. I guess we all go with whatever belief that works for us.

P.S. I'm not saying that there is anything inherently wrong with it, I'm just pointing out that we pretty much pick and chose the path that fits our individual needs and desires.

 

[Goofyernmost]

They didn't actually show him smoking, but they referenced it with that cough. I think that was their way of getting around their policy of no smoking in movies.

They didn't show him with a cigarette in his mouth, but, they did show him panicking while attempting to put one out as she came into his office, then he apologized for it. At the time, it wasn't a criminal offense against nature, so I highly doubt he would have had any reason to be that concerned.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Can never have too many coasters.

You can if you have a real love for Disney's original plans and target. If people do then they really just want to make Disney into something that fits their particular special likes instead of the blanket things that everyone enjoyed back in the birth of the concept of a Disney Theme Park. But, times change and I have no doubt that if Walt were still alive he would be in favor of them. However, he would also be over 110 years old and senile and probably drooling all over himself, but still.

 

[choco choco]

Tomorrowland is not a live action remake, it's an "original" film.

It's still based on a brand (a sixty year old theme park land). It is definitely not an original idea.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

So what does this mean for Disney Animation's "Giants".
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/disney-vince-gilligan-teaming-jack-790909

 

[GoofGoof]

You can if you have a real love for Disney's original plans and target. If people do then they really just want to make Disney into something that fits their particular special likes instead of the blanket things that everyone enjoyed back in the birth of the concept of a Disney Theme Park. But, times change and I have no doubt that if Walt were still alive he would be in favor of them. However, he would also be over 110 years old and senile and probably drooling all over himself, but still.

Except he was talking about Sea World. Nothing to do with Walt.

If Antartica is any indication of future ride quality, Sea World should probably never do a dark ride again. Stick to coasters and animal shows

 

[arko]

It's still based on a brand (a sixty year old theme park land). It is definitely not an original idea.

It uses Tomorrowland as a premise, the story is original. The simple fact is Disney has made its business off selling existing IP's, just look at Fantasyland, none of the most classic revered rides based on DIsney films are original stories.
Lets look at one of Disney's greatest periods in recent history
The Little Mermaid (1989), The Rescuers Down Under (1990),Beauty and the Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992), The Lion King (1994), Pocahontas (1995), The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996), Hercules(1997), Mulan (1998), and Tarzan (1999).
Not one original story among them.

 

[Nubs70]

We ain't found ****!

All hail Mel!!!!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Except he was talking about Sea World. Nothing to do with Walt.

If Antartica is any indication of future ride quality, Sea World should probably never do a dark ride again. Stick to coasters and animal shows

In that case, I apologize! I must have missed the part that splintered off into talking about SeaWorld. A thousand pardons.

 

[Mike S]

All hail Mel!!!!

One thing I was looking forward to when I was in California was seeing his handprint in front of the Chinese Theater. Little did I know the ceremony they do is completely separate from when it's actually put in so I didn't get to see it.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Tomorrowland is not a live action remake, it's an "original" film.

I've clarified Disney live action remake to the more inclusive Disney live action "BRAND deposit" in the incorrect manner Disney chooses to use that term. "Tomorrowland" is absolutely one of the company's "BRAND deposit" exercises.

It uses Tomorrowland as a premise, the story is original. The simple fact is Disney has made its business off selling existing IP's, just look at Fantasyland, none of the most classic revered rides based on DIsney films are original stories.
Lets look at one of Disney's greatest periods in recent history
The Little Mermaid (1989), The Rescuers Down Under (1990),Beauty and the Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992), The Lion King (1994), Pocahontas (1995), The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996), Hercules(1997), Mulan (1998), and Tarzan (1999).
Not one original story among them.

Unfortunately, you don't see where I'm coming from and I apologize if I haven't made it clear enough. The issue with these live action BRAND films is that they don't add anything, they strip mine existing Disney works. With the exception of "Rescuers Down Under", all of those films are not based on Disney IP. They all sought to use these existing stories as foundations to tell new interpretations of stories. They were all additive. With these live action projects, all Disney makes are xeroxs of its reinterpretations. Do we want a Disney that just serves up less imaginative versions of what we already know instead of offering us something new?

That's not to say these films are bad, Cinderella was very good and I have high hopes for Brad Bird's "Tomorrowland" and Jon Favreau's "Jungle Book", but we need to see that these BRAND deposits films are bad for Disney long term and that there is a distinction between adapting existing work versus mercilessly strip mining the company's IP.

Oh and @BrianLo , I will get to your argument that Disney wouldn't want to make a film like "Star Wars" or "E.T.". Some family needs have had to take precedence over messing around on these MAGICAL parts for me to offer you a thoughtful rebuttal.

 

[GoofGoof]

In that case, I apologize! I must have missed the part that splintered off into talking about SeaWorld. A thousand pardons.

No worries. Amongst our bickering about drunks and Star Wars @Lee slipped in a post about Sea World adding a new ride. Sounds like it will be a coaster.