A Spirited Perfect Ten

CDavid

Well-Known Member
Knowing the exact nature of the problem will not at all affect the mood of the typical Guest. I'm just saying that there is absolutely no reason for anyone, other then the people in charge, to know why is isn't working. It will make no difference in the experience at all. It still won't work until it's working!

On the contrary, people tend to be much more understanding and cooperative if kept informed with honest information about the source and severity of a given problem. People don't need technical details they generally won't understand, but do respond positively to honest communication. One of the biggest sources of frustration (and even anger) is when people are sitting on a train (or flight, MM+ is snagged, etc.) and the train just sits there for a couple hours without a word of explanation from the crew. However, when you explain that you are stopped because the freight train in front broke a knuckle - then you explain what that means and what is required to get moving again (even if you still don't know how long it will be) - passengers are far, far more content.

There certainly are valid reasons for guests to know at least the nature of a problem, and again, it does indeed have a positive influence on their overall experience. Nobody really likes to feel they're being kept in the dark, and when you honestly explain whats wrong, it helps immensely (and they're less likely to blame the poor CM, for instance, when they know what the problem is).
 

JediMasterMatt

Well-Known Member
That Iger and Disney have given new life to Star Wars. I never thought Episode VII would happen, and I am so happy that the story is continuing thanks to Disney.

Then you should thank George Lucas. Did you know he was gearing up to start the sequel trilogy before he sold the company? It was his idea to retire and it was his idea to turn control over to Kathleen Kennedy so that the next generation of films would be done by the next generation of film makers. Bob simply was the best fit for the company. Part of what George wrestled with Iger with was the leverage for Kathy to make the movies and business decisions for Lucasfilm going forward. Disney has very little control over the content of what is happening at the Presidio.

Bob simply took the relationship that started with Eisner and mended old wounds and showed how co-existence with the Mouse has been working with what use to be his company in Pixar. If Lucas didn't settle on Disney, then another studio would've agreed to his terms for creative control to remain autonomous.

So, be sure to put the praise for The Force Awakens and the spinoffs, er Anthology collection where it rightfully belongs... at Lucasfilm and it all started with George agreeing to turn the reigns over to the next generation.

Also, thank Lawrence Kasdan for coming back to the saga. He's the real engine that makes the ship go.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Why on Earth would you have considerable holdings in DIS stock? ESPN is going to fail now that cable is going ala carte, the parks are in terrible shape and should be sold to a 3rd party (probably for pennies on the dollar), obviously the Chinese government is going to take their investment there and the movie studio is going to fail too. Because of all of this the short sellers are going to come in and drive the stock price waaaay down before the company is bought out and its parts sold.

I think you're on the wrong side of this investment;)

Bought it a long time ago when Eisner was running the show :)
 

VJ

Well-Known Member
Spirit @WDW1974 , this may be my favorite post of yours ever. No name-calling or sexual innuendo (not that there's anything wrong with that!) just the facts. And your anger and sadness come through. I think anyone who follows your posts knows you are not a Disney hater though you are often accused of being one. In fact you are just the opposite. However sometimes this gets lost in all the clutter. This post of yours shows not only your sadness for losing the Disney World of the past but also your anger at the current management for making it this way. A thousand likes to you for this, thank you for saying it.
We Walt Disney fans need to start a coalition or something!
 

VJ

Well-Known Member
Then you should thank George Lucas. Did you know he was gearing up to start the sequel trilogy before he sold the company? It was his idea to retire and it was his idea to turn control over to Kathleen Kennedy so that the next generation of films would be done by the next generation of film makers. Bob simply was the best fit for the company. Part of what George wrestled with Iger with was the leverage for Kathy to make the movies and business decisions for Lucasfilm going forward. Disney has very little control over the content of what is happening at the Presidio.

Bob simply took the relationship that started with Eisner and mended old wounds and showed how co-existence with the Mouse has been working with what use to be his company in Pixar. If Lucas didn't settle on Disney, then another studio would've agreed to his terms for creative control to remain autonomous.

So, be sure to put the praise for The Force Awakens and the spinoffs, er Anthology collection where it rightfully belongs... at Lucasfilm and it all started with George agreeing to turn the reigns over to the next generation.

Also, thank Lawrence Kasdan for coming back to the saga. He's the real engine that makes the ship go.
But..but...the prequels! CGI! JAR JAR!! What'll we have to complain about now?!
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
So you're saying that when you pay for park admission, you have paid for an agreement that no mechanical components will break or otherwise malfunction while you are on property?
I said nothing remotely close to that.

I didnt see the need to quote the rest of your post as it was entirely based on the premise that I felt I deserved any type of explanation as to why the system was down. My original comment on the issue focused on the reports of Disney giving people the excuse of "we are adding more magic to the system" when they experienced a resort wide failure two days ago. I commented that it was funny because they felt that was a proper answer to a guest who is experiencing a complete failure of a system that Disney advertised to them as "easier", "new-level", and "unique".

This system has suffered complete failure several times now and has minor issues on a daily basis for many people and they have yet to even put any type of backup system in place. When a guest has a major problem with this system that they were told is "magical", Disney tells them, "dont worry, were just dding MORE MAGIC!" Sorry if my pointing out that theyre answer is a completely ridiculous one to give to a confused, adult customer.

You mentioned how new systems are plagued with problems for quite awhile. That is understandable, but if nearly two years after the system first was tested and they still experience complete crashes and still have yet to install a backup, I cant excuse that. Should people storm MSUSA and picket guest relations? No, but they should be respected enough by the company theyre paying a PREMIUM price to, with expecations to have the same "flawless" experience as you claim you did. Especially considering that the older system they knew for years never experienced RESORT WIDE FAILURE. I dont even think old system was capable of having anywhere near a resort wide failure. $1billion dollars and years of problems are excusable with an answer that only a 5 year old would fall for? Not for me.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Getting some news behind investment paywalls. Rumors are strong DIS will once again beat its earning report with a strong second quarter padded by consumer products and P&R. If it beats earnings again, the stock will take off to the $115 area, that's incredible and makes me feel bad for the people who sold their stock.

At some point you can't live up to the predictions…

On the other hand? The movie studio performance will be fine. What I'm curious about his Christmas. That's the next fiscal year… Consumer product should be through the roof with all the Star Wars merchandise and that movie is just going to make q1/q2 of FY16 somewhere around the ridiculous… oh yeah and don't forget the other segments… That's crush time for the theme parks and ESPN will be pulling in some serious ad revenue from the college football championship and bowl games.

With what's coming down the pipeline? I don't see where the stock price is going to go down in the foreseeable future.

(World Geo – political events notwithstanding)
 

truecoat

Well-Known Member
This is EXACTLY why Disney and Lucasfilm should never have shot parts of "The Force Awakens" in Abu Dhabi.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...rs-vii-and-fast-furious-7-20150415-story.html

I find this part of the story interesting...

Abu Dhabi’s next claim to fame, “Star Wars VII,” is due in theaters later this year, and it too is sure to be celebrated in the region where it was shot. The Rub’ al Khali desert is one of the largest on Earth and features some of the highest sand dunes anywhere. To build the challenging sets, crews were brought from India (a three-hour flight) instead of Los Angeles (a 16-hour flight).

Yeah, they were brought from India because of the flight time. No, they would have been brought from India anyway as they'll work for peanuts and live in slave labor like conditions.
 

CinematicFusion

Well-Known Member
One does not speak of the unspeakable horrors of this world… so pretty please, with sugar on top, it never happened.

I enjoyed revenge of the sith and still think it's a fun movie.
I liked Aotc when I first saw it but thinks it's terrible now.
I hated phantom when I first saw it and can appreciate it now watching it with my 3 year old girls. They love Star Wars. However, I don't think I can just watch phantom and enjoy it by myself.

That was my views on the prequels.

Have nothing against Lucas though. I still respect him very much, it was just time to let a new generation play with bringing his story of Star Wars to the big screen.
I'm still assuming it's a Lucas story with Abrams and kasdan doing the screenplay...but I could be wrong.
Might not be the Lucas 7,8,9 story at all?
 

stevehousse

Well-Known Member
I enjoyed revenge of the sith and still think it's a fun movie.
I liked Aotc when I first saw it but thinks it's terrible now.
I hated phantom when I first saw it and can appreciate it now watching it with my 3 year old girls. They love Star Wars. However, I don't think I can just watch phantom and enjoy it by myself.

That was my views on the prequels.

Have nothing against Lucas though. I still respect him very much, it was just time to let a new generation play with bringing his story of Star Wars to the big screen.
I'm still assuming it's a Lucas story with Abrams and kasdan doing the screenplay...but I could be wrong.
Might not be the Lucas 7,8,9 story at all?
He doesn't have any input on the upcoming sequels and spin offs as far as I know. I even believe he had a treatment for 7 but it was dismissed. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.
 

gmajew

Premium Member
He doesn't have any input on the upcoming sequels and spin offs as far as I know. I even believe he had a treatment for 7 but it was dismissed. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.


That is what was stated on one of these forums at one time that they took his idea for EP 7 and said no thanks.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Bought it a long time ago when Eisner was running the show :)
Well good for you. You should have some nice gains by now. You should send Mr. Iger a nice thank you note.;):greedy::greedy: I'm just giving you a hard time.

I just found it funny that you would own any DIS stock today at all based on the level of negativity you have towards the company. I would have assumed you would have shorted the stock based on your predictions of doom. Or at least sell the shares today and buy them back in a few years when the stock tanks.
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
The MK is absolutely not a theme park in any real sense, not the way it was 30 years ago or even 15 years ago.

I'm not mad at anybody today and a Disney World trip is still a great getaway from my daily grind, but I agree. We say all the time that what passes today would never have been tolerated back in the day.

The thing that surprises me is that most of us either think they still have the same commitments that were demanded for operations when Richard Nunis was running the park or we don't care that the standards have dipped as long as we are getting whatever Disney Parks is serving up which is still substantially better than what we get from our other entertainment outlets.
 

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