Sirwalterraleigh
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Because you can’t burn a bridge it took 52 years to construct
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5th gate anyone.......?
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TalkToEthan
Well-Known Member
That thing had very little of what most Disney park goers want: rides
3.3 rides just couldn’t cut it.
CTX
Safari
Tri spinner (1/3)
Primevil Whirl (1/2)
Train (1/2)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It also redistributed the crowds from the other 3…
Which would happen again just at a much higher upfront and longterm daily cost
This. DAK cannibalised the first 3 parks when it opened. There is even more competition now for a (still) finite amount of guests than in 98.
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You must have missed the announcements for BBTM and the South America. Epcot just added a huge roller coaster and a ride in France. DHS is the problem child.
I think the 5th gate is at least a few years away. They still need to right the streaming ship and get ABC figured out. That said, I just don't see them continuing without another gate and allowing Universal to grow and expand without a fight. That includes new attractions at existing parks and a 5th major park. I hope you are right, though!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
There have been no “announcements” of the such
It looks like there gonna reskin dinoland. So far that’s the only semi-solid lead
If a “few” is never…I agree
NickPytlinski
Well-Known Member
This
KDM31091
Well-Known Member
It seems crazy to me to even be discussing a 5th gate when so much space in the existing parks is unused/underutilized/wasted. DAK is still a half day park and even with the "improvements", it's basically going to be a lateral move. MK has wasted space (Stitch for example, old Skyway building in TL being just bathrooms which it was before the attraction was removed anyway). Epcot...I'm not even going there right now. If you're not into Star Wars, there's still not a ton to do at Hollywood; again about a half day's worth.
They also can't even staff two water parks at once anymore and keep them both open, in Central Florida, in the summer. How in the world would they staff a whole extra park?
They also can't even staff two water parks at once anymore and keep them both open, in Central Florida, in the summer. How in the world would they staff a whole extra park?
It's legal SOP. When you write a will, you have to account for future children - even if you have no plans for any more and they never exist. It's a just in case this ever happens they are included as heirs.
So WDW has to mention future parks even if they never build them. Just in case.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
The existing parks NEED to be cannibalized. That’s why they implemented reservations - there’s too many people.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
There have been “more” parks on every master plan filed…on all the water management master plans…since day 1.
Doesn’t mean they’ll ever even consider building them.
Remember that they had an airport and a nuclear reactor on the original plans as well.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…when was the last time you were there?
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Don't worry, EPIC Universe will fix the problem of too many people in WDW
There are no shovels in the ground. No dirt is being moved. No beams are being erected. That is not "well underway". Epcot added Rat 4 years ago, that was something which was an actual expansion. GotG was not an expansion, it was a replacement. Most of Tropical Americas will be a replacement. What exactly are they building with BBT? It was a blue sky announcement at the 2022 D23, there was nothing specific mentioned.
Hopefully some of the emphasis above helps you understand, but somehow, I doubt it will.
I thought reservations (initially) were due to not having enough CM's to staff the parks, to spread guests out amongst all 4 parks at the time, plus to keep the number of people in all the parks down to "prevent the spread". And then they morphed into something they did to keep labor costs down until there was enough backlash that they did away with them. I could be wrong.
One problem WDW does not have recently is "too many people". There are always busy days, but when their own financial reports make mention of "lower attendance at WDW"...
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Spreading the same number of guests over more parks is not necessarily a good business decision since it increases costs but not revenue. I think a 5th gate only makes sense if it Disney believes that existing guests will take longer vacations, or there are a lot of people not coming to Disney because it is to crowded.
I do wonder how much un-tapped market there is for WDW? As the costs of WDW go up it further reduces the size of that market.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Reservations were because they conceived it/coveted it for decades. The old office of strategic planning/“destination Disney” daysI thought reservations (initially) were due to not having enough CM's to staff the parks, to spread guests out amongst all 4 parks at the time, plus to keep the number of people in all the parks down to "prevent the spread". And then they morphed into something they did to keep labor costs down until there was enough backlash that they did away with them. I could be wrong.
One problem WDW does not have recently is "too many people". There are always busy days, but when their own financial reports make mention of "lower attendance at WDW"...
It was all to extract every cent from the labor
They thought that a public health situation was the perfect pretense to go for it
“We need to know where you are to help YOU”
Luckily it didn’t hold
Dead2009
Horror Movie Guru
They can build the 5th park while getting the streaming division straightened out. That why they have multiple divisions lol.