Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Disney Experience]

Which vaccine? AZ had a much lower efficacy than Pfizer.

Not sure if that is on the technical report or in their collected raw data. If not , they should have had it in the raw data .

Page 18 has the vaccine related summary from the raw data , but not broken down by specific vaccine.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf

 

[Disney Experience]

U.S. appeals court lifts CDC cruise ship restrictions in win for Florida

A federal appeals court late on Friday reversed course and let stand a lower court order prohibiting the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) from enforcing coronavirus-related cruise ship rules in Florida.

www.reuters.com

 

[havoc315]

We haven't been "pre-internet" in many years, so there's no point discussing such a hypothetical.

This is a national health crisis where the Feds have said disinformation has played a key part in the spread of disease.

If the NYT wants to put a paywall in front of its Op-eds, reviews, or thinly veiled advertisements as articles, that's fine, but they'd do more good will by providing some key info for free and possible advertise their paper more as a result.

So the writers who write the hard news should work for free? They do need to get paid.. by charging for their work.

How "good" the info is in certain newspapers is debatable to say the least.

So hopefully people would only pay for the high quality sources.

 

[GoofGoof]

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine works very well against the Delta variant - but only after 2 doses

The study on 19,000 people in the UK found one Pfizer shot was about 36% effective against Delta, but it was highly effective after two shots.

news.yahoo.com

Per UK study on delta variant:
Pfizer 88% efficacy after 2 doses
AZ 67% efficacy after 2 doses

 

[DisneyCane]

I'll need a millennial to English translation of this but I think this is an attempt to reach young people to get vaccinated:

 

[GoofGoof]

I'll need a millennial to English translation of this but I think this is an attempt to reach young people to get vaccinated:

I think it means Covid is uncool.…but I had to Google it so that probably also makes me uncool too

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I'll need a millennial to English translation of this but I think this is an attempt to reach young people to get vaccinated:

More like Gen Z...my 15-year-old drops words like this on me constantly. It makes me nuts!

 

[FanforDisney]

oh, ok. so he is saying republicans are a problem.

You do realize the blacks has the highest rate % of not vaccinated. I would say most are not republicans.

 

[willtravel]

You do realize the blacks has the highest rate % of not vaccinated. I would say most are not republicans.

Yes, I heard all of that on the radio yesterday.

 

[lisa12000]

Which vaccine? AZ had a much lower efficacy than Pfizer.

It genuinely isn’t - the effectiveness again serious cases and hospitalisation are very similar

Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant

New analysis by PHE shows for the first time that 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective against hospitalisation from the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant.

www.gov.uk

Also remember most of our cases are in the under 40s who have all had Pfizer and moderna

the numbers you quoted are for symptomatic infection not for hospitalisations

 

[GoofGoof]

It genuinely isn’t - the effectiveness again serious cases and hospitalisation are very similar

Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant

New analysis by PHE shows for the first time that 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective against hospitalisation from the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant.

www.gov.uk

Also remember most of our cases are in the under 40s who have all had Pfizer and moderna

the numbers you quoted are for symptomatic infection not for hospitalisations

Just a guess on my part since the study I quoted said they didn’t look at severe illness or hospitalization but efficacy was a lot lower. Something doesn’t add up if the original post I quoted said 30% of hospitalizations in the UK were in fully vaccinated people but then a study is showing the vaccines are still 95% effective at preventing hospitalizations from delta variant. We are not seeing anywhere near 30% of hospitalizations coming from fully vaccinated people in the US.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Just a guess on my part since the study I quoted said they didn’t look at severe illness or hospitalization but efficacy was a lot lower. Something doesn’t add up if the original post I quoted said 30% of hospitalizations in the UK were in fully vaccinated people but then a study is showing the vaccines are still 95% effective at preventing hospitalizations from delta variant. We are not seeing anywhere near 30% of hospitalizations coming from fully vaccinated people in the US.

Soon this is finally over very soon as the virus will become as less problems anymore?

 

[correcaminos]

I'll need a millennial to English translation of this but I think this is an attempt to reach young people to get vaccinated:

More like Gen Z

If you have to look it up, you're kind of the definition of it

 

[correcaminos]

More like Gen Z...my 15-year-old drops words like this on me constantly. It makes me nuts!

Ooh missed this post. Sorta watching the opening ceremony that I missed earlier today. But yeah, I have a 13yo. I hear ya on this!

 

[correcaminos]

You do realize the blacks has the highest rate % of not vaccinated. I would say most are not republicans.

For the national election 12% voted red. So most, 87%, voted blue. Vaccine hesitation has to do with medical inequality issues that Blacks deal with as well as socioeconomic issues that make vaccination hard. A few might be political. However roughly 13.4% of all people in the US are Black. Last I can see 36% of Blacks have been vaccinated. While Blacks need help to vaccinate since they have been disproportionately hit by covid, in terms of total numbers they are a small percentage we need to get through

 

[DonniePeverley]

67,000 cases now - THE USA will be hitting over 100,000 by next week again. Horrific again

 

[DonniePeverley]

Back of the envelope math again.

Do I think that will happen? Not likely. What goes up eventually drops down again. No reason to assume cases will double every 9 days indefinitely.

I hate to say this ... but you were wrong. You've learnt nothing from the pandemic, and warning signs from other countries. Delta was going to hit the USA hard. Under what scenario did you assume it would not hit the USA the way it's wrecking the UK ?

 

[Trauma]

I hate to say this ... but you were wrong. You've learnt nothing from the pandemic, and warning signs from other countries. Delta was going to hit the USA hard. Under what scenario did you assume it would not hit the USA the way it's wrecking the UK ?

See this is the problem I have with this sensationalism of case numbers. When I look at the death rate it’s not “wrecking” the UK.

Maybe that will change but so far it hasn’t.

 

[DonniePeverley]

See this is the problem I have with this sensationalism of case numbers. When I look at the death rate it’s not “wrecking” the UK.

Maybe that will change but so far it hasn’t.

The UK had the highest case numbers in the world last week. That's horrific on all terms.

 

[Trauma]

The UK had the highest case numbers in the world last week. That's horrific on all terms.

Figure out how many people in your country have not had covid or been vaccinated.

That’s how many case numbers you should expect to see over the course of time, if not more.

We are not eradicating the corona virus it is here to stay.