EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

[MisterPenguin]

Does anyone have a timeline on this thing yet? Or are they still value engineering the original concept?

Boy, you're really running out of things to complain about. We're now down to the timeline?

 

[Bocabear]

Wait, I will find more...
Asking about a timeline is not a complaint.... per-se

 

[jt04]

Does anyone have a timeline on this thing yet? Or are they still value engineering the original concept?

from what Martin said about concrete pours, seems like they aren't cutting corners.

 

[dsinclair]

Indeed it is now. Although they did have plans (which I posted several hundred pages ago) - until Bob really wanted his folly building.

Do you mind reposting?

 

[marni1971]

Do you mind reposting?

It might not even had been this thread. let me look elsewhere.

 

[marni1971]

Do you mind reposting?

Phew. Found it:

And all that could have been...

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- and lost for a bar on legs.

NE Food and drink (various), SE shopping, SW meet n greet, NW expo

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Phew. Found it.

So frustrating that was an option and was rejected. And even more so because, not only is it more practical and cost effective, but it probably would have been open THIS year - shopping, dining, meet and greets, festival/expo space - all of it!

Instead, we're stuck with WallCOT and DirtCOT until who knows when. Sigh...

 

[doctornick]

Phew. Found it:

I know the floating table replacement has not been determined yet (as far as we know....) but since the main element of that is elevated food and drinks, it would be nice if the first floor of any such build could be dedicated to entertainment like a new "expo" or at least M&Gs

 

[The Aracuan Bird]

Phew. Found it:

That looks really good. What a shame

 

[Supernova]

Is the festival centre still going ahead? Or is it just postponed?

 

[HauntedPirate]

Time to go sob (again) for what could have been...

 

[Incomudro]

I make this argument when people complain about my 50+ year old land-yachts. Their carbon footprint today is less than any of the hybrids or EVs that are currently on the market. My point? use what you have efficiently. Don't rip down a perfectly good building to put in a bunch of plants and think yourself "green". BTW, never saw Communicore as office-building-like. I saw it as more long lost opportunities.

Not that I care, but the carbon footprint and other emission levels of 50 year old cars are far in excess of any internal combustion engined cars of today, or even 20 years ago.
Anyway...
Use the buildings for what?

 

[DisneyNorthFan]

I guess I'm a little less doom & gloom on the idea. It's taken some adjustment, but I'm looking forward to the more organic layout to Future World, as a balance to the structure of the entry and World Showcase. I don't see JoM as a replacement for an attraction, so I'm not bothered by the (small) scale. There are still options to add attractions to Epcot, which I agree are needed - and perhaps this location is not the best place for them, anyway. But for what it is, I think JoM is a nice addition.

 

[J4546]

I agree, and theyve added a major pavilion expansion with eticket trackless dark ride, creperie, and merch. Theyve added a new space themed food option that looks amazing (imo) Theyre adding a major e ticket 1 of a kind storytelling largest indoor rollercoaster in the world, completely redeveloped the entry/middle of park with great fountain, lighting, new stores and food, rethemed massive interactive play pavilion (although covid has slowed that down for obvious reasons) new harmonious lake show and alot more....and all people do is complain lol

im glad theyre putting some long overdue money into the park and besides harmonious im happy with everything thats happening so far.

 

[dsinclair]

Phew. Found it:

This was just going to be shops and restaurant? No attraction?

I sincerely don't get why this is obviously better other than it is something geared toward adults and not children.

EDIT: Thank you for looking for it.

 

[trainplane3]

This was just going to be shops and restaurant? No attraction?

I sincerely don't get why this is obviously better other than it is something geared toward adults and not children.

I'll let Martin post his diagram but there was going to be a theater, meet+greet space, and robot stuff in West. Play area, band space, and booze carts by the fountain.

*Unless you lost it @marni1971, then I'll post it*

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

This was just going to be shops and restaurant? No attraction?

As Trainplane said there was going to be an attraction on the same plot as Journey of Water, but also, what we're getting already is nothing more than shops and restaurants outside of Journey of Water. That's all the whole East building is, and even if it were still happening that's all the Festival Center would be too.

 

[Creathir]

Phew. Found it:

So ridiculous.
What an absolute waste of money and resources.
And think of the environmental impact. Disney likes to tout being environmentally responsible, but then they turn around and completely knock down an existing structure, for no reason, other than to plan to build something of little to no value.

Why not just build the bar on the SW quadrant (or SW and SE quadrants) roof and offer that for the upcharge area?

Just so shortsighted and wasteful.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't disagree, if they had ANY plans to use said building. Which from what I have seen so far they didn't, which is even sadder

Use the buildings for what?

CommuniCore West could have rather easily accommodated the program of the Festival Center with room to spare and money left over.

 

[jt04]

I'm convinced more than ever they had to open up the walkways around 'past future world' to grow the park, add new attractions and potentially new WS lands. Progress.