EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

jt04

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I’d like to see a Volcano in Adventureland. You could have a Moana boat ride travelling through the base of the Volcano, with a unique coaster above. They could have even made the pathways and tunnels from under the train to the expansion plot as their Journey of Water.

I do think theming a coaster to Moana would exclude a major part of its target audience, but like I said, dark ride on the bottom, unique coaster on top.

Well there was certainly some rumblings a few years ago about a volcano attraction. Rumors erupted on these boards that Moana would possibly be the IP. But as quickly as that rumor heated up it went dormant again. But the rumor board was really shaken up in those couple days.

I doubt they would dedicate that sort of capital to a mid-level franchise. But something like the investment of Pan or Mermaid might be possible in AdvLand. 🌊🌋🌴
 

TTA94

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Well there was certainly some rumblings a few years ago about a volcano attraction. Rumors erupted on these boards that Moana would possibly be the IP. But as quickly as that rumor heated up it went dormant again. But the rumor board was really shaken up in those couple days.

I doubt they would dedicate that sort of capital to a mid-level franchise. But something like the investment of Pan or Mermaid might be possible in AdvLand. 🌊🌋🌴

Would they ever replace The Seas with Moana to go along with Journey of Water?
 

jt04

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Would they ever replace The Seas with Moana to go along with Journey of Water?

Everything will likely stay very close to how it is now. Moana m&g and merch are real possibilities. Especially the merch.

I do expect the pavilion, along with The Land and Imagination to get major investments during the 2020's. Purely speculation.
 

TikibirdLand

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I absolutely agree that if they were building an Oceana area in DAK that this would be a potentially great fit. But as is, assuming that the walk through actually does illustrate "the journey of water" as has been indicated in the press releases from Disney, then it still seems to me to be an okay fit for Epcot as a kinda pre-show/entranceway for Seas. Moana had a strong undercurrent about people's relationship with the sea which strikes me as a Epcot and Living Seas vibe.

Obviously execution matters. but if this is a good looking walk through with an education message that uses Moana and company to inform rather than just sell plastic toys, then I'm excited for it. Yes, that's a lot of "ifs" but the concept art and what they've said about it seems like that's what we are getting. I actually think the greenery and water is something that will benefit Epcot and help differentiate "World Nature" from the east side "World Discovery".

I know people are salty about the loss of Communicore West and the lack of symmetry. I get it. but I also think that's really coloring people's objective assessment of this "attraction".

As an aside, I'm happy to see them put some effort into smaller diversions and just just what they perceive as big draws. The biggest thing that new builds have been lacking is the complimentary attractions that fill out areas (I'm looking firmly at you Pandora and Galaxy's Edge).
IMO, the point here is that we already had an incredible centerpiece to FW in the Fountain of Nations. It had movement. It had a story. Pull it and Communicore wasn't needed. What was needed, was some imagination on what to do with Communicore. As I mentioned earlier, there was plenty of room for a dark ride. Even as left as-is, there was room for a splashpad type of attraction that JoW will be for most. Now, FW looks unbalanced. Very disappointed to see EPCoT's direction. But, it won't matter; the crowds will come; money will be made. No one will remember the things they lost.
 

Phicinfan

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While some are complaining because they don’t like the movie, it’s not the main issue. It’s the placement, and not JUST the park they chose, but the exact plot of land they chose. Right smack dab in the middle of everything for no rhyme or reason.

And I’d also argue that it was a poor choice of attraction type too. If the movie does have the staying power of the most classic Disney films, many are going to complain that it’s JUST a walk through and not a ride. People want rides, that’s why they pay the big bucks. I walk through exhibit is an extra, not the main selling point. It’s just bizarre to me how they wasted the two biggest recent IPs on smaller attractions. I think I’ll personally enjoy it, but it seems like a lack of methodical planning.
I know I won't win an argument with many here that it does not fit. And until I actually see what is built it isn't worth a major fight.

However, if you understand Moana, and how it's theme is to respect nature and enjoy it, I get @marni1971 view of it would fit better in AK, but isn't learning about nature and focusing on the eco culture a fit in edjutainment as well? Not everything in EPCOT has to be technology. Now, put this in front of the weather pavilion we have always wanted....and you are talking....
 

Creathir

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Plus we all know how good Disney is at updating stale IP based attractions.
Angry Lilo And Stitch GIF
I’ll never forgive them for removing Alien Encounter… that ride was perfection…
 

Creathir

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We will see in 5 years.
For perspective Tiger King racked up more streamed minutes than both Moana and Mando, you think that will matter in 5 years?
Now THAT would be an interesting bit of IP to insert into the parks… a dark ride telling the story… the Carole Baskin murder scene will be lit
 

Movielover

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Creathir

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100%^. I will always regret being a cry baby and forcing my parents to take me out of the building during the pre-show... granted I was like 5 at the time but still.
It definitely was not something a 5 year old should have been on… good on your parents for doing so. Lol

But a few years older, absolutely would have been fine. My brother was about 8 when we went on it.

He screamed so much he literally was screaming and nothing was coming out. Just perfect horror theater, like a fantastic haunted house at Halloween.
 

Movielover

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It definitely was not something a 5 year old should have been on… good on your parents for doing so. Lol

But a few years older, absolutely would have been fine. My brother was about 8 when we went on it.

He screamed so much he literally was screaming and nothing was coming out. Just perfect horror theater, like a fantastic haunted house at Halloween.
I may have been 6, kind of hard to remember, but my parents were always forcing new experiences on me when I was younger. That's how I became such a big fan of rollercoasters. I can't recall what age I was but my very first rollercoaster was Big Thunder. Parents said I was struggling so much not to go on but afterwards that's all I wanted to do. Soon after that my first coaster with inversions was Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. Again practically petrified to ride but after a little "encouragement" from the folks I faced my fears and became a thrill seeker ever since.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I know I won't win an argument with many here that it does not fit. And until I actually see what is built it isn't worth a major fight.

However, if you understand Moana, and how it's theme is to respect nature and enjoy it, I get @marni1971 view of it would fit better in AK, but isn't learning about nature and focusing on the eco culture a fit in edjutainment as well? Not everything in EPCOT has to be technology. Now, put this in front of the weather pavilion we have always wanted....and you are talking....
It’s certainly not worth removing a perfectly serviceable building that was full of potential with the other space available.

IP inclusion notwithstanding.
 

Bocabear

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Hmmm if only there was a park that was all about respecting nature....
Nah, EPCOT Future World is perfect for a Polynesian-themed Leapfrog fountain water play area...
Perfect fit!
OMG it could not be more off brand... It doesn't fit the theme of "World Celebration" or "Dreamers Point" or whatever stupid name they chose for the area...nor does it fit the theme of Nemo and Friends Aquarium....
 

The Great Gonzo

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Hmmm if only there was a park that was all about respecting nature....
Nah, EPCOT Future World is perfect for a Polynesian-themed Leapfrog fountain water play area...
Perfect fit!
OMG it could not be more off brand... It doesn't fit the theme of "World Celebration" or "Dreamers Point" or whatever stupid name they chose for the area...nor does it fit the theme of Nemo and Friends Aquarium....

I agree completely, it should have gone to Adventureland or at the very least Animal Kingdom. It makes no sense in Epcot.

I think they just wanted to have it in Harmonious, so they are shoehorning it into the park.
 
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