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EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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doctornick
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I absolutely agree that if they were building an Oceana area in DAK that this would be a potentially great fit. But as is, assuming that the walk through actually does illustrate "the journey of water" as has been indicated in the press releases from Disney, then it still seems to me to be an okay fit for Epcot as a kinda pre-show/entranceway for Seas. Moana had a strong undercurrent about people's relationship with the sea which strikes me as a Epcot and Living Seas vibe.
Obviously execution matters. but if this is a good looking walk through with an education message that uses Moana and company to inform rather than just sell plastic toys, then I'm excited for it. Yes, that's a lot of "ifs" but the concept art and what they've said about it seems like that's what we are getting. I actually think the greenery and water is something that will benefit Epcot and help differentiate "World Nature" from the east side "World Discovery".
I know people are salty about the loss of Communicore West and the lack of symmetry. I get it. but I also think that's really coloring people's objective assessment of this "attraction".
As an aside, I'm happy to see them put some effort into smaller diversions and just just what they perceive as big draws. The biggest thing that new builds have been lacking is the complimentary attractions that fill out areas (I'm looking firmly at you Pandora and Galaxy's Edge).
James Alucobond
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At least the build will be done with no expectation that someone else will care for it, enabling it to languish for nearly two decades.
BrianLo
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Moana IS a 5 year old film. If Frozen is a Lion King equivalent, Moana is certainly an Aladdin or Little Mermaid in terms of staying power.
I really think you are underestimating how popular this film still is.
doctornick
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This. I was totally going to say that I would expect Moana to be as popular in (say) 20-30 years as The Little Mermaid is right now. It's definitely a keeper.
I'll also point out that despite having a "princess" as the lead, it's a film that is gender neutral in terms of its appeal. Especially with Maui being a great and funny second character.
James Alucobond
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I said "expectation". Obviously, negligence happens, but it seems to have happened on a wider scale than anywhere else at EPCOT due to the supposition that corporate (or national, in the case of World Showcase) sponsors would always be around to fix things. At least IP sponsorship carries no delusions of being able to wash their hands of all responsibility.
Soluna16
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The amount of people in this thread who can't let others have something they could potentially enjoy is so sad to see. Everything has to be shoved aside because "I don't like Moana" but "I loved the empty buildings that used to be there."
"Someone has to." when someone else states that they like it. The self-righteousness if off the charts. Not everything in the world revolves around 2 people's opinions on this site.
Moana is a wonderful movie and clearly has long term appeal and the last three pages on here make it seems like it's some random 20 minute clip they pulled out of a box somewhere.
"Someone has to." when someone else states that they like it. The self-righteousness if off the charts. Not everything in the world revolves around 2 people's opinions on this site.
Moana is a wonderful movie and clearly has long term appeal and the last three pages on here make it seems like it's some random 20 minute clip they pulled out of a box somewhere.
The Aracuan Bird
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So why not add an attraction to the Living Seas? Why spend money tearing down a building to throw a fountain play area down with so little attention paid to layout?
jt04
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The Moana theme won't be in your face. It is secondary to the main theme of the water cycle and conservation done in an engaging way for families. Sounds very EPCOT Center edutainment to me.
In fact I believe the IP utilization will be so carefully utilized that Moana could show up in another park in a more dedicated attraction.
Just my opinion.
And then something else might be added to the JoW or no IP at all.
I think we are just seeing pieces of a puzzle because the big picture of Epcot's future is still being crafted.
In fact I believe the IP utilization will be so carefully utilized that Moana could show up in another park in a more dedicated attraction.
Just my opinion.And then something else might be added to the JoW or no IP at all.
I think we are just seeing pieces of a puzzle because the big picture of Epcot's future is still being crafted.
MrMcDuck
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Love Moana. Don't like the idea of Moana IP insertion in Epcot, but I'll be OK with it if the Moana references are as limited and as subtle as the art suggests (Heart of Te Fiti symbol or whatever that is). Hopefully there aren't Moana signs or a statue of Hei Hei or something absurd like that.
Except on these boards, everything does revolve around those opinions...
(for the record, I'm excited to see the beauty of the fountains and I will be a Moana fan even after another five years have passed
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The Aracuan Bird
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While some are complaining because they don’t like the movie, it’s not the main issue. It’s the placement, and not JUST the park they chose, but the exact plot of land they chose. Right smack dab in the middle of everything for no rhyme or reason.
And I’d also argue that it was a poor choice of attraction type too. If the movie does have the staying power of the most classic Disney films, many are going to complain that it’s JUST a walk through and not a ride. People want rides, that’s why they pay the big bucks. I walk through exhibit is an extra, not the main selling point. It’s just bizarre to me how they wasted the two biggest recent IPs on smaller attractions. I think I’ll personally enjoy it, but it seems like a lack of methodical planning.
jt04
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The journey of water eventually reaches the ocean. Or seas. The Living Seas some might call it.
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dsinclair
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Besides the fact that you don’t like Moana, why do you think this movie is unpopular and /or will become profoundly unpopular?
doctornick
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I can understand people complaining about losing the Communicore building but I don’t see how one can describe the location as “no rhyme or reason” - it’s literally the pathway to go from the center of FW towards the Living Seas and the location was chosen so that JoW is a walk through precursor to the Seas experience. It’s complimentary while being separate and enhances “World Nature”. Do you really think having a smaller attraction themed to water is inappropriate next to the Living Seas?
Little Green Men
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All fantasyland style lands in what’s supposed to be the non MK park
The Aracuan Bird
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I’d like to see a Volcano in Adventureland. You could have a Moana boat ride travelling through the base of the Volcano, with a unique coaster above. They could have even made the pathways and tunnels from under the train to the expansion plot as their Journey of Water.The Moana theme won't be in your face. It is secondary to the main theme of the water cycle and conservation done in an engaging way for families. Sounds very EPCOT Center edutainment to me.
In fact I believe the IP utilization will be so carefully utilized that Moana could show up in another park in a more dedicated attraction.
And then something else might be added to the JoW or no IP at all.
I think we are just seeing pieces of a puzzle because the big picture of Epcot's future is still being crafted.
I do think theming a coaster to Moana would exclude a major part of its target audience, but like I said, dark ride on the bottom, unique coaster on top.
sedati
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Like Salieri in Amadeus, this perfectly serviceable area obstructed genius.