EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

[TTA94]

When is this expected to be open? It seems like it should be fairly soon. Maybe early 2022? I'm excited to see what they do even if everyone in here just s**** on everything non stop.

Can’t imagine it taking to long to install a bunch of trees, pathways and a few waterfalls. They could have this done later this year, but this is Disney so, probably early 2022 or Spring lol.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Figment doesn't possess the fountains. Figment has no presence around those fountains (or at least hasn't for over a decade), there's nothing to cement a marketable character in a child's mind to associate with the fountains. A child can walk out of Journey of Water wanting a Moana shirt or plushie or whatever. It's all about the bottom line.

What are you talking about and why did you quote me? That has nothing to do with my point or what I was saying. Don't push your narrative on my words. If you want to bring up a discussion about the IP's inclusion with the project as a shrewd way to push Moana merch, by all means do so, but don't include my words in it, as I was not talking at all about that.

 

[TikibirdLand]

It's not a splashpad.

To quote Arnold Schwarzenegger, "It's not a Tumor!"
And, they also say that the space hotel isn't a hotel!

 

[MisterPenguin]

To quote Arnold Schwarzenegger, "It's not a Tumor!"
And, they also say that the space hotel isn't a hotel!

Actually, the Halcyon will be a splashpad featuring music by Olivia Rodrigo.

 

[Amused to Death]

It's not a splash area.

It's not a splashpad.

The fountain in front of Countdown to Extinction / Dinosaur wasn't a swimming pool, but we all know how that turned out.

Pool-a-saurus

Keep-out-a-saurus

Planter-a-saurus

 

[The Aracuan Bird]

I'm not defending this or Play! I would have loved to see better concepts come to fruition. But I also cannot deny that clearly these two things are aimed at a younger audience. When I was at WDW in 2018 with my nephew, he basically could have spent the entire day at the leaping fountains at Imagination. Sometimes the simple things are what fascinate kids the most. Again, I will say I wish other things were green-lit instead of these choices, but I can't deny that the kids will most likely love them. At this point the most we can hope for is that these ideas are executed well, because it seems like full steam ahead on both projects.

Sometimes the simple things fascinate the adults too. Like the same leaping fountains. I spent 40 minutes there in 2018 and 2019.

But the Imagination fountains aren’t misplaced. They probably didn’t have a ride sized budget to them. Nor do they take up more space than their worth. Yet they bring so much casual joy to people. What the little things can do.

 

[412]

I’m looking forward this. It will add a natural area to the concrete expanse formerly known as Future World, while tactfully leveraging a popular character to teach people about the water cycle. If it lives up to its description, it will be proper 21st century edutainment.

 

[FigmentFan82]

But the Imagination fountains aren’t misplaced. They probably didn’t have a ride sized budget to them. Nor do they take up more space than their worth. Yet they bring so much casual joy to people. What the little things can do.

Please read my first sentence again. I'm not looking for this tired statement over and over again.

 

[marni1971]

I’m looking forward this.

Someone has to.

 

[412]

Someone has to.

Do you dislike this attraction because of:
A) the demolition of Innoventions West to make room for it?
B) the use of Moana?
C) the interactive water cycle concept itself?
D) All of the above

Just trying to understand why people are so strongly against this one.

 

[monothingie]

It will add a natural area to the concrete expanse formerly known as Future World,

Yes they had that in 1982. They ruined it in 1994. They further ruined it in 2019.

 

[monothingie]

Do you dislike this attraction because of:
A) the demolition of Innoventions West to make room for it?
B) the use of Moana?
C) the interactive water cycle concept itself?
D) All of the above

Just trying to understand why people are so strongly against this one.

Because it is a step down from what was previously there.

 

[Walt d]

Cant wait to see the finished product’

 

[marni1971]

Do you dislike this attraction because of:
A) the demolition of Innoventions West to make room for it?
B) the use of Moana?
C) the interactive water cycle concept itself?
D) All of the above

Just trying to understand why people are so strongly against this one.

A and B.

Speaking of the concrete expanse:

 

[412]

Yes they had that in 1982. They ruined it in 1994. They further ruined it in 2019.

Yes I’m aware of the trees and lakes that were bulldozed in ‘94. I see Journey of Water as a way of bringing back some of the natural feel that Epcot ‘94 destroyed.

I’m sympathetic to the argument that Communicore should have remained intact. But I don’t understand the people who are opposed to Journey of Water based on the trees and fountains and water features themselves. Future World has needed more of that natural beauty for decades.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

What are you talking about and why did you quote me? That has nothing to do with my point or what I was saying. Don't push your narrative on my words. If you want to bring up a discussion about the IP's inclusion with the project as a shrewd way to push Moana merch, by all means do so, but don't include my words in it, as I was not talking at all about that.

My apologies. I was trying to leverage off of your experience to enunciate the point that unthemed fountains, regardless of the guest impact they have (particularly on the kiddos) seemingly aren't viewed as enough, and I believe the ability to monetize the concept is one of the contributing factors towards this being greenlit. Didn't mean to come across as trying to belittle you or anything.

 

[The Aracuan Bird]

Do you dislike this attraction because of:
A) the demolition of Innoventions West to make room for it?
B) the use of Moana?
C) the interactive water cycle concept itself?
D) All of the above

Just trying to understand why people are so strongly against this one.

A) Yes. Huge waste of money that could have been used on improving Imagination, or Mission Space, or any of the lacking ride lineup.
B) Yes. But mostly because the IP fits Adventureland so well, and there probably won’t be another new IP that fits the land better. Could have made for a good additional attraction in Magic Kingdom.
C) No
D) No

 

[trainplane3]

Do you dislike this attraction because of:
A) the demolition of Innoventions West to make room for it?
B) the use of Moana?
C) the interactive water cycle concept itself?
D) All of the above

Just trying to understand why people are so strongly against this one.

If they wanted to make something Moana and have it be worthwhile, there should've been a dark ride placed within the southern half of West. The building is huge, it could easily house a ride the size of a Fantasyland style ride.

We're getting a walkway with water and lights. Like, they could've easily done better. Also, less cover from storms that the old CC west buildings gave us.

 

[monothingie]

I’m sympathetic to the argument that Communicore should have remained intact. But I don’t understand the people who are opposed to Journey of Water based on the trees and fountains and water features themselves. Future World has needed more of that natural beauty for decades.

It's the inherent problem with IP insertion, especially ones that don't have lasting power, Because in 3-5 years, will anyone care about a mediocre IP such as Moana? I mean you can force feed it to guests, but that won't make them have any attachment to it or care about it.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Also, less cover from storms that the old CC west buildings gave us.

Remember when that huge point was made at D23 that guests want "more shade" and literally all that ever came from that was a canopy over Slinky Dog Dash? And here we are taking down a massive enclosure for IP fountains.