Splash Mountain re-theme announced

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Disney Analyst

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21stamps said:
Moana, which is imo the best Disney “princess” story they’ve ever done, was criticized for being culturally insensitive by some.

There is literally nothing that can ever be done to satisfy every single person who is looking for something to be critical about.
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You are right, in that you will never please everyone. There will always be a group who thinks more could be done. It’s just inevitable. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t hear them out, or try and do better as we learn and grow.

But in the end, Moana is definitely one of the ones they got mostly right.
 
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Disney Analyst said:
You are right, in that you will never please everyone. There will always be a group who thinks more could be done. It’s just inevitable. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t hear them out, or try and do better as we learn and grow.

But in the end, Moana is definitely one of the ones they got mostly right.
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This goes back to asking for and doing the right thing, from both consumer and company.

Disney casts a black girl as Ariel. Social media was then aflame with #blackgirlmagic and people thrilled that a black girl is playing a traditionally white mermaid. How lazy is that? How would anyone expect better than to slap Tiana on Splash, when Disney knows that cheers will result, from the same crowd.

Tiana’s story is problematic outside of race.. but no one cares.. because, Disney is (re) theming a ride to her! Look how socially conscious they are! I’m going to Disney World Now!

How about a legit black princess with some type of deeper story than turning into a frog? How about an attraction to celebrate such a film? This is what people should want, but, they’re fine with the lazy way instead.. Bonus- they get to claim everyone else is racist and asleep for not realizing the racism in the sights and songs on Splash Mountain itself.
 
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Brer Oswald said:
Can we get a list of things that could be considered offensive at the parks?
I currently have
  • Jungle Cruise
  • Native Village (Railroad)
  • Country Bears
  • Peter Pan
  • Dumbo Circus tents
  • Hall of Presidents
  • Haunted Mansion suicide joke
  • American Adventure
  • Chris Pratt starring in a Major E Ticket
  • Zootopia in Shanghai
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Add:
Tiki Room
Animal Kingdom
Animal Kingdom lodge
Carousel of Progress
Its a Small World
Monsters Inc Laugh Floor (bullying)
Tom Sawyer Island
 
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Chi84

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Disney is just trying to be inclusive - they aren't going to take all your rides from you. This thread is giving me flashbacks to the '60's and '70's.
 
Brer Oswald

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21stamps said:
This goes back to asking for and doing the right thing, from both consumer and company.

Disney casts a black girl as Ariel. Social media was then aflame with #blackgirlmagic and people thrilled that a black girl is playing a traditionally white mermaid. How lazy is that? How would anyone expect better than to slap Tiana on Splash, when Disney knows that cheers will result, from the same crowd.

Tiana’s story is problematic outside of race.. but no one cares.. because, Disney is (re) theming a ride to her! Look how socially conscious they are! I’m going to Disney World Now!

How about a legit black princess with some type of deeper story than turning into a frog? How about an attraction to celebrate such a film? This is what people should want, but, they’re fine with the lazy way instead.. Bonus- they get to claim everyone else is racist and asleep for not realizing the racism in the sights and songs on Splash Mountain itself.
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All while not realizing that the only black written story in the parks is getting rethemed to another white written story.
 
Brer Oswald

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Chi84 said:
Darn those greedy Disney prophets. You can never foresee what they're going to do.
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You think I’m being sarcastic, but you know that’s why they did this right? The only people buying Splash merch are Park fans, and they’ll buy it whether the ride is open or not.

It’s also cheaper to maintain a screen ride than an animatronic heavy ride.
 
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manmythlegend

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Chi84 said:
Disney is just trying to be inclusive - they aren't going to take all your rides from you. This thread is giving me flashbacks to the '60's and '70's.
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The question is what are they taking and what are they giving. If they take Splash, Pirates, Haunted, and Tom Sawyer and gives us Princess & The Frog, Moana, Wreck it Ralph and Onward, I've got an issue with that.
 
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21stamps said:
This goes back to asking for and doing the right thing, from both consumer and company.

Disney casts a black girl as Ariel. Social media was then aflame with #blackgirlmagic and people thrilled that a black girl is playing a traditionally white mermaid. How lazy is that? How would anyone expect better than to slap Tiana on Splash, when Disney knows that cheers will result, from the same crowd.

Tiana’s story is problematic outside of race.. but no one cares.. because, Disney is (re) theming a ride to her! Look how socially conscious they are! I’m going to Disney World Now!

How about a legit black princess with some type of deeper story than turning into a frog? How about an attraction to celebrate such a film? This is what people should want, but, they’re fine with the lazy way instead.. Bonus- they get to claim everyone else is racist and asleep for not realizing the racism in the sights and songs on Splash Mountain itself.
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I don’t have an issue with Tiana having any type of representation, it’s what they want to do with the film and where they want to put it. If they thought there’d be no problems with that choice, they were wrong. All of a sudden, Tiana, one of the least popular princesses, gets to take over one of the most popular attractions in an area that has nothing to do with the right time period or theme, because she’s black and Disney wanted to act like they were listening with all the current stuff in the media. That’s it from Disney’s standpoint whether it fits or not and that’s sad. I already said where I thought it would be nice to see Princess and the Frog in the parks and it wasn’t Frontierland. It would mean more to create a new black heroine who wouldn’t be a frog for most of her film, but Disney’s too busy remaking all of their old movies.
 
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