Progress.City
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FrankLapidus
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Any why did they hire him to write a new trilogy before TLJ was released and they had a chance to judge the response to the job that he did on the film?
I have no idea whether KK is on the outs, I haven't seen or heard those rumours myself.
Solo pretty much sums up Lucasfilm at the moment; four months out from release, production was chaotic, there have been reports claiming that Disney expect the film to tank, we've yet to see anything of any note save for artwork that is on the leaked Lego sets (although Disney denied that that artwork was legitimate when it first leaked) and then they release a synopsis that tells us nothing about the film save for that it will feature Han Solo's first encounters with Chewbacca and Lando Calrissian...which we knew from the get-go. I'm cautiously holding out hope for the film but Disney & Lucasfilm have to give us something soon, be it promotional shots or an actual trailer, that might go some way to turning the tide of negative press that Solo is already facing.
peter11435
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Not everyone thinks they made a mistake with Johnson.
Progress.City
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He did a great job directing. It’s where he took the story and the characters. That’s where the problem is.
peter11435
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Not everyone thinks there’s a problem with where he took the story and the characters.
Progress.City
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I just want to say that when Empire Strikes Back came out, I bought the sound track on 8-track cassette. It came with a special printed insert with an interview with John Williams. In that interview, Williams said that Lucas showed him the stories for all 9 movies. He said all 3 trilogies were to have a unique look and feel to them, with the middle trilogy being action/adventure, the prequels being more mysterious with political intrigue, and the sequel trilogy was to be more “science fiction” oriented. We got maybe pretty much of what was planned for the prequels, but we are not getting what was planned for the sequels. That is very sad.
Progress.City
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It was as if he didn’t care about story consistency. He took everything JJ Abrams set up and tossed it away (Luke tossing his light saber quite literally shows this). It had its moments, such as the message in R2 and Kilo Ren and Rey teaming up to kill Snoke. But he cared more about developing his new characters (probably because he wanted that trilogy that was given to him) more than developing everything Abrams and Lucas had set up for him. And it breaks many Star Wars traditions - such as no transition wipes between scenes. Also, lines like “God speed” in a Star Wars movie?! Many themes were rehashed from Empire and RotJ, such as “if you will not turn, then maybe...” And Snoke looking out the window, as Emporer Palpatine did in RotJ, predicting the fate of ensuing battle outside. At those moments, it felt more of a remake than a sequel.
Progress.City
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In summary, Disney made money, but they alienated many fans. More so than the prequels ever did. It is because of this fact that Disney has a major problem of risking future diminishing returns on the franchise sooner than later. Their only hope now is make darn sure that the Solo movie is good enough to win people back.
And I don’t know what JJ Abrams could do to make everything right again. Pretend like Episode 8 was a spin off movie, and make an Episode 10 to close off the sequel “trilogy”?
And I don’t know what JJ Abrams could do to make everything right again. Pretend like Episode 8 was a spin off movie, and make an Episode 10 to close off the sequel “trilogy”?
peter11435
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Again. People have different opinions. IMO nothing about the film is inconsistent with the story unless you’re referring to the story you wanted to see.
You can’t criticize any lines in TLJ compared to previous Star Wars films and keep a straight face.
Progress.City
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Well, that’s my opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs.
peter11435
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You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. But you must remember it’s yours and not shared by everyone.
Progress.City
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And I think Disney has a big disaster on their hands unless they fix it. The “it” in the previous sentence is referring to management at LucasFilm. LucasFilm needs a similar arrangement to what Disney has in place for Marvel Studios.
Progress.City
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Of course. Have you checked the audience score at Rotten Tomatoes lately? I may have an opinion, but it’s a strong one that is shared by too many.
Progress.City
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And notice how the Fox deal closed just BEFORE TLJ was released??? Hmm.
bclane
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The godspeed line from Holdo is not a departure for Star Wars. There are races in the galaxy that worship a god or gods (for example Yuuzhan Vong gods, the Zakuul old gods, and the Keshiri gods, called the Skyborn). Uncle Owen said the word Hell in IV and Han said it in Empire. Leia has been known to say Lord. 3PO was worried about being worshipped as a god by the Ewoks in IV. But you are free to dislike the movie....
bclane
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I'm confused.
Progress.City
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Someone “had a bad feeling about this”. And wanted to close the deal before a potential disaster (TLJ) could affect market prices.
peter11435
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I’ve seen that and many other ratings and scores. Your opinion is certainly shared, by how many is still unknown, and it’s strength is still up for debate.
peter11435
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That’s a stretch...
Progress.City
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At least it made Disney a ton of money. I’m just worried of over saturation, diminishing returns, and lower quality creativity effectively destroying or devaluing the Star Wars franchise.