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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Chi84

Premium Member
Ok, then we've lost the point. As your point was that Disney is killing careers. And after that was proven false, it was changed to well actors are looking to be famous and they don't do that by doing "arthouse" films they do that by booking large franchises. And when that was proven false, well now I don't know what is the point.

So what is the current point there chief?
If it's not about Disney killing careers, why are we talking about it?
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Except if you go to what the post is responding to its about the whole fact that claims where made about careers being said, specific actors, because they have failed to lock down a new large blockbuster franchise, not about the generic topic of whether a actor wants to be famous.
It doesn't matter. The response was making a specific claim that I have a really hard time believing. And that was what I was commenting on.
Ok, but was does "famous" mean? Does it mean being recognized, I say he's achieved that.
I'm not sure it matters in the context of our discussion. But he absolutely has achieved it. And I'm sure once he got his first major roll it was what he always dreamed of. I don't think the things you're saying support your side of the discussion very well. At least the points I was making. Most of what you say supports what I'm saying really.

I get what you're saying about not being in marvel or star wars...it doesn't mean you are not wanted. Although it can. I don't think I argued against it though because it wasn't my point.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
It doesn't matter. The response was making a specific claim that I have a really hard time believing. And that was what I was commenting on.
Except if you change the whole conversation midstream to a different point that is hard to track and follow for those that were continuing talking about the original conversation. Because the rest of us, I'm not the only one, are continuing to respond as if that is what you're talking about when apparently its not.

I'm not sure it matters in the context of our discussion. But he absolutely has achieved it. And I'm sure once he got his first major roll it was what he always dreamed of. I don't think the things you're saying support your side of the discussion very well. At least the points I was making. Most of what you say supports what I'm saying really.

I get what you're saying about not being in marvel or star wars...it doesn't mean you are not wanted. Although it can. I don't think I argued against it though because it wasn't my point.
Well apparently our discussion is completely different than that I thought it was about.

In general I would agree actors want to be famous. That can be done in many ways, a character actor for example can be famous for showing up in hundreds of films and TV shows and having bit parts, ie being famous for having that recognizable face that everyone knows. Bringing this back to Disney, John Ratzenberger, while having a minor career as a TV actor became famous for voicing various characters in almost every Pixar films. So much so that it now seems weird if he isn't in one, it'll be a sad day when he passes. Or same with Patrick Warburton, who is famous for having a deep voice and it being everywhere.

So fame and fortune is had in many ways, doesn't have to be because of joining a huge franchise, to bring this back to the original conversation.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
How do you know they’ve been happy with everything every single day?

You say the strangest things.
They said if your unhappy in a relationship you should leave. I always thought you should work on things to make them better.

What do I know though, I’ve only been married 19 years not 20.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
They said if your unhappy in a relationship you should leave. I always thought you should work on things to make them better.

What do I know though, I’ve only been married 19 years not 20.
I’ve been married much longer than that. The common sense interpretation of what they said is if you are permanently or irreparably unhappy in a relationship you should leave. Not if one thing goes wrong one day. That would be silly.

People generally interpret comments using their common sense and life experience.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
I’ve been married much longer than that. The common sense interpretation of what they said is if you are permanently or irreparably unhappy in a relationship you should leave. Not if one thing goes wrong one day. That would be silly.

People generally interpret comments using their common sense and life experience.
Only if it’s a comment that should be taken seriously.

Their comment was I should relinquish my Disney fandom because I am currently unhappy.

How is that permanent or irreparable?

It’s just a matter of time until the current clown show is removed.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Only if it’s a comment that should be taken seriously.

Their comment was I should relinquish my Disney fandom because I am currently unhappy.

How is that permanent or irreparable?

It’s just a matter of time until the current clown show is removed.
That’s true, but who knows what will happen then. It could get better but it could get worse.

The one thing I would bet will never happen is that it goes back to the way it was before. In my experience that doesn’t happen or if it does it’s rare.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with hoping a change in management will make things better for those who are terribly disappointed with Disney’s current product.

But there are a lot of people in the world who visit Disney and many of them enjoy the product as it is now (although the increasing prices are likely a concern to almost everyone).
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
That’s true, but who knows what will happen then. It could get better but it could get worse.

The one thing I would bet will never happen is that it goes back to the way it was before. In my experience that doesn’t happen or if it does it’s rare.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with hoping a change in management will make things better for those who are terribly disappointed with Disney’s current product.

But there are a lot of people in the world who visit Disney and many of them enjoy the product as it is now (although the increasing prices are likely a concern to almost everyone).
I like this. We have had an actual conversation for once. I think you see the things I see. You just think we cant go back to the way things were. What if we don’t have to? Isn’t there some way to innovate and create new ways for larger numbers of visitors to have a World Class experience ?

Isn’t that what Disney is suppose to be the leader in?

I refuse to give up hope.

Otherwise over a long time frame Disney will just become a more expensive and slightly better themed six flags.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
OK, I’m obsessed and it’s all your fault. 😆😉

Mufasa did better than last week every day from Monday through Thursday.

Is that unusual? Shouldn’t it be dropping?

Not huge gains, but still.

I wonder if people are taking what they believe to be their last opportunity to see it in the theater, since they know it’s coming to Disney+ soon. Anecdotal side note: it’s hard to find many showings in my county.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
So I will say one positive thing about the upcoming ‘Snow White’ live action film….well, maybe two positive things -

The CGI animated animals are cuties and look nice on the big screen.

Visuals and sets ( wether they were real or digital ) also look pretty nice.


-
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Ok, then we've lost the point. As your point was that Disney is killing careers. And after that was proven false, it was changed to well actors are looking to be famous and they don't do that by doing "arthouse" films they do that by booking large franchises. And when that was proven false, well now I don't know what is the point.

So what is the current point there chief?
Adrien Brody?

He’s like Hannah Montana or the Mickey Mouse club now?

Or did he tank a Lucas or Marvel movie?

…I think we’ve gone to plaid
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
“When a pic is hot, tickets go on sale well over a month in advance. Juxtapose this to Disney putting Snow White tickets on sale March 10, less than two weeks before its opening. Whenever a studio pulls an advance-ticket stunt like that, it means there’s no anticipation for the film. Still, Snow White at this point is expected to do around a $60M opening.”

It will be nice to get passed the Snow White train wreck and move on to :
• May 2, 2025: Thunderbolts
• May 23, 2025: Lilo & Stitch
• June 20, 2025: Elio
• July 25, 2025: The Fantastic Four: First Steps
• October 10, 2025: Tron: Ares
• November 7, 2025: Predator: Badlands
• November 26, 2025: Zootopia 2

 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
If it's not about Disney killing careers, why are we talking about it?
Disney hasn’t torpedoed anyone’s career with Snow White, but scroll through social media and it’s clear many fans think Rachel Zegler has sunk hers, or at the very least dragged the flick down with her. The backlash paints her as the villain…

Be interesting what she says at the premiere.
 

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