Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A fun poster who used to be here a lot, and who was known as a warm and loveable person who could spark fun conversation with just a single post of a sentence or two.

Trust me, he's missed.

I was gonna give a straight up assessment…but the mods don’t need more work

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Going further, nobody should spend money and be loyal to a brand because they used to make products you loved in the past.

It seems to me that Disney fans love the brand MUCH more than the people in Burbank love their fans. We need to see Burbank the exact same way they see us.

Exactly…which means the relationship is “unbalanced”…and it needs a correction like everyone’s 401K

(…too soon?)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When did they leave?

I think the refs gave him a game misconduct last year

 

[Disstevefan1]

I just saw a commercial for Snow White and I am going to say something controversial.

The commercial looks GOOD! For the "normal" person (not Disney fanatics here) a normal person not knowing anything about the movie, if commercials like the one I saw, can get the normal folks to buy tickets, it does not matter how bad the movie is, at least initially, until the word gets to the normal folks.

 

[Chi84]

Going further, nobody should spend money and be loyal to a brand because they used to make products you loved in the past. Those days are long gone.

It seems to me that Disney fans love the brand MUCH more than the people in Burbank love their fans. We need to see Burbank the exact same way they see us today.

That's probably true, given the number of people who complain and still go to Disney movies and parks. Some correction is definitely going on there.

But don't forget the large numbers who buy Disney products because they love them the way they are now.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I would have been lurking this site at that time. I don’t recall someone named buddy.

Buddy Thomas…

Dammit…now it’s been said again

He used to jump in on mostly movie talk Air all kinds of grievances all over the map…

Spray…like a “semi-literary” machine gun

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But don't forget the large numbers who buy Disney products because they love them the way they are now.

A shrinking number in a growing world

So that doesn’t line up very well

 

[Agent H]

Buddy Thomas…

Dammit…now it’s been said again

He used to jump in on mostly movie talk Air all kinds of grievances all over the map…

Spray…like a “semi-literary” machine gun

So was the good conversation thing sarcasm then?

 

[Chi84]

A shrinking number in a growing world

So that doesn’t line up very well

Probably not. We'll see how it goes.

I don't know a lot of people who would spend money on something they don't like anymore just because it used to be good and they are hoping it will go back to the way it was. Maybe a restaurant or local business, but not an expensive vacation like Disney.

It's different with movies, since content is so changeable.

 

[Disney Irish]

Totally agree. The point I was making, and I get it, I don't know what's for sure going through their mind. Is that the overwhelming majority got into it for the fame and lifestyle. That doesn't mean I think they don't love acting. But I can't see many wanting the scrutiny and lack of privacy and all that goes with it unless they want the fame and lifestyle. I'm sure there's some because it's never everyone or no one.

You think any young actor that is getting started in the business now and seeing other actors get bullied and dragged through the mud online by franchise fans are looking to get into that? I don't think so, it takes a toll on a person. Any sane person would steer clear of that for as long as possible. Or would try to take a break from it after already experiencing it, ie do other things for awhile before jumping into another franchise and the potential mud.

I get it, some here can't understand why someone trying to get business aren't doing franchises for the fame and fortune that go along with it. But that isn't the end all be all for actors.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So was the good conversation thing sarcasm then?

I’m not sure…they banned sarcasm in New Jersey…so I’m not allowed to evaluate it

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You think any young actor that is getting started in the business now and seeing other actors get bullied and dragged through the mud online by franchise fans are looking to get into that? I don't think so, it takes a toll on a person. Any sane person would steer clear of that for as long as possible. Or would try to take a break from it after already experiencing it, ie do other things for awhile before jumping into another franchise and the potential mud.

I get it, some here can't understand why someone trying to get business aren't doing franchises for the fame and fortune that go along with it. But that isn't the end all be all for actors.

Ding ding

We have our first hate network sighting of the day. Can’t wait until we run into the tin man and the angry trees

 

[erasure fan1]

You think any young actor that is getting started in the business now and seeing other actors get bullied and dragged through the mud online by franchise fans are looking to get into that?

Absolutely. Because what you say is going to happen no matter what. You don't seek out the Hollywood spotlight unless you crave and want it. Otherwise you can be a stage actor, Broadway... There's plenty of options if you're in it for the love of acting.

Any sane person would steer clear of that for as long as possible. Or would try to take a break from it after already experiencing it

Exactly! Any sane person. So going into it, you have to want it. But some get in and decide, huh, maybe I really don't want this. But the majority start off seeking that fame and fortune in my opinion.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I would have been lurking this site at that time. I don’t recall someone named buddy.

buddy hackett

 

[monothingie]

Well I’ve discovered this thread. Time to lock it.

 

[HauntedPirate]

As a matter of fact yes, I will be seeing it twice in the theater. Burbank worked VERY hard on this movie and put a ton of extra attention into it to get it right. I support Burbank efforts with this movie and will buy two tickets for it.

Blink twice if you need help.

 

[DKampy]

Wow good luck in your relationships.

No problem there…. Happily married…. We will be celebrating our 20th wedding anniversary in May

 

[Phroobar]

Buddy Thomas…

Dammit…now it’s been said again

He used to jump in on mostly movie talk Air all kinds of grievances all over the map…

Spray…like a “semi-literary” machine gun

I blocked that guy a long time ago.

 

[monothingie]

Oh yeah this is fine…

Interestingly enough, this theater is a Disney Focus Group location where they continually do audience surveys.

 

[Disney Irish]

Absolutely. Because what you say is going to happen no matter what. You don't seek out the Hollywood spotlight unless you crave and want it. Otherwise you can be a stage actor, Broadway... There's plenty of options if you're in it for the love of acting.

That might have been true back even 10-15 years ago, but times are different now. Young people in Hollywood are more social media savvy now. They have seen what happens in the large franchises of the world, and what happens when fans get upset, and aren't running toward that.

Exactly! Any sane person. So going into it, you have to want it. But some get in and decide, huh, maybe I really don't want this. But the majority start off seeking that fame and fortune in my opinion.

I think people here have a different idea of what true fame and fortune are.