MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Streetway Again

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It does show how how little your average guest cares about nostalgia, downtime or if the IP fits.
It shows that as much as a lot of us want the parks to keep their theme, all the average guest wants is IP they know and grew up with
If it wasn’t popular with guests and not making money, Disney would’ve stopped. I know people think there’s a small hope that with some major administration change, things will go back to the way they were, but I doubt it. I don’t think original attractions have zero chance of coming back, and that the remaining themes of parks will be completely eradicated, but I think it’s time to face the music, and accept the way of “replace with newer thing and Disney ip” is the way things are now. Doesn’t mean it’ll be bad, just different. Was a sucky thing as a fan to come to grips with, but that’s the way it is I guess.
 

Jrb1979

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If it wasn’t popular with guests and not making money, Disney would’ve stopped. I know people think there’s a small hope that with some major administration change, things will go back to the way they were, but I doubt it. I don’t think original attractions have zero chance of coming back, and that the remaining themes of parks will be completely eradicated, but I think it’s time to face the music, and accept the way of “replace with newer thing and Disney ip” is the way things are now. Doesn’t mean it’ll be bad, just different. Was a sucky thing as a fan to come to grips with, but that’s the way it is I guess.
I have accepted this the new Disney. I don't like it at all. I'm not sure the IP focused way of things is going to have the nostalgia factor the original parks had. Look at Universal Hollywood and Nintendo. They go a big bump in attendance it's first year and since then have gone back down.

IMO it's the big issue with these IP lands. People will flock to see them once but they will lose their appeal after the first time.
 

Streetway Again

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I have accepted this the new Disney. I don't like it at all. I'm not sure the IP focused way of things is going to have the nostalgia factor the original parks had. Look at Universal Hollywood and Nintendo. They go a big bump in attendance it's first year and since then have gone back down.

IMO it's the big issue with these IP lands. People will flock to see them once but they will lose their appeal after the first time.

Im more open to it, because the ideas shown could still make for good new attractions. Imagineering still has talent. As for the lands, Yeah, we’ll see how that works out, but this is the eventual end result of the runway at success of potter. The industry adapted.

And In hindsight post acceptance, i hope this doesn’t sound too much like a shill, I think that we are taking the things Disney does to appease us, like adjusting Tropical Americas to be a village and be about animals vaguely, making villains one of the expansions and brining back door coaster, keeping the bears with a new show, putting muppets in RNRC, and keeping figment around all these years and doing the whole ‘world of motion test track’ thing for granted ALOT. does it sometimes come off as consolation prizes and sorta soulless attempts to placate us? Absolutely, and sometimes I do think they are. And yes, the closures still are bad. But with the way the parks are going, It’s a small miracle they are still catering to us like that, and it’s better than nothing. Because it could ALWAYS be worse.
 

Brer Oswald

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I will gladly explain. 1. The queue. 2. The entire outside stretch. 3. The former laughing place. The new scene feels much more colorful and the water effect actually works! And 4. The finale. As for the lack of wait times. Ha ha I wish.
1) The new queue feels incredibly cheap. I’ll be the first one to say that the Splash queue wasn’t the greatest, but it at least served a point introducing you to the story and the characters of the ride itself. You had these iconic custom signs and props, the wanted posters which promoted world building, the bird houses that featured conversations between the birds about the Brer Rabbit storyline, the character portraits, and of course the Brer Frog projection where he started telling the story to his kids (which leads into the animatronic telling you the story on the first lift hill).

Compare this to TBA which has replaced most of the unique custom props with stickers on flat plywood and props they bought off of Etsy. And of course the backstory it’s “telling” you is completely irrelevant to the plot of the ride.

2) The outside loop feels cluttered while not having any meaningful things to look at. The one moment I will give you is after the initial lift hill. The reveal of the water tower is actually pretty good, and you feel like you’re in a bayou for about 2 seconds. Unfortunately it goes downhill after this. The reveal of the drop is not as poignant as before, especially with the puke green splattered rocks. When you pass the interior barn hill, you’re welcomed by this incredibly gaudy Tiana’s food sign. Besides the charming Louis gourd statue, none of the crops are interesting or charming; they’re just pure filler. A disembodied Tiana voice is singing Almost There from the movie…for some reason. Then you have Mama Odie living in…a cave? If it wasn’t clear before, the outdoor loop makes it very clear this was budget overhaul, and that this ride was clearly meant to be something else.

Splash’s exterior “How Do You Do” loop was designed very strategically to transition you into the whimsically animated world of the critters. There weren’t thousands of filler flowers plastered on the rocks, however, there were several custom props created to enhance the world building of the fictional community the Imagineers created. “Critter Elixr”, “Brer Soap”, “Muskrat Moonshine”, all charming little details. Then you had the CUSTOM made birdhouses that emanated the singing voices of cute little birds. This continued with Brer Rabbit’s House where you could hear his voice echo. And Brer Bear snoring from his cave. He’s a bear so of course he lives in a cave. Haven’t even mentioned the music (highly sought after for a reason), the small broken bridge above the drop, or the fact that the critters actually named the transition drop as “Slippin Falls”.

3) Then comes the former Laughing Place. I agree, the lighting is much improved. It actually looks like the lighting in the former Disneyland Laughing Place. The problem is that there’s also nothing of value to look at. The new props are cheap. The frogs aren’t even animatronic. The screen is tacky. The best part of this scene are the elements that were left over from Splash. The amazing rock work. The jumping fountains (which did work btw, even in 2022). I miss the beehives, the Brer animatronics, the cartoon props, the weasels.

4) The finale is subjective. I do think it’s the one scene where they actually tried. The tunnel and home sweet home replacements are objective downgrades, however the main room is fine. It’s a small glimpse into what this ride could have been if it was built from the ground up.

TL;dr Most of Splash’s “weaker” elements were still filled with intentional details that actually ENHANCED the attraction’s story telling and world building. The same spots in Tiana are filled with mindless filler that most people won’t ever notice anyways.
 

Agent H

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I have accepted this the new Disney. I don't like it at all. I'm not sure the IP focused way of things is going to have the nostalgia factor the original parks had. Look at Universal Hollywood and Nintendo. They go a big bump in attendance it's first year and since then have gone back down.

IMO it's the big issue with these IP lands. People will flock to see them once but they will lose their appeal after the first time.
I feel like Harry potter world kinda disproves this.
 

Agent H

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Disagree. It gave Universal a big boost to attendance when it first opened but it has leveled off since. I'm not saying it's no longer a draw but it's not the same draw as it was when I first opened.
attendance may have leveled off somewhat but the land still sells tons of merchandise and food and it universals perception in the eye of the average guest forever so yeah I’d say it was a success.
 

Disstevefan1

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@lentesta has shared guest feedback which shows respondents are generally very happy with the ride as is.
Len collects data without bias.

The folks who are generally very happy with the attraction who spent thousands on their Disney vacation are more likely to say positive things rather than, "I spent thousands of dollars on my Disney vacation and all I got was a broken Tiana"
 

Jrb1979

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attendance may have leveled off somewhat but the land still sells tons of merchandise and food and it universals perception in the eye of the average guest forever so yeah I’d say it was a success.
I didn't say it's not a success. I'm saying they don't have sustained boost to attendance year over year.
 

SamusAranX

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It’s everywhere. I’ve seen it on YouTube. On twitter. And on instagram. Really it makes this forum seem tame in comparison.
For better or for worse, there was much more riding on this retheme then say GMR —> MMRR, given the passions and opinions associated with this were much more inflamed.

Disney HAD to hit a home run. They bragged about the AA; the advances; the cultural authenticity; and so on. Also, many people who bemoaned SM’s demise were bagged on heavily across the web for reasons we’re not going to rehash. So while perhaps not the best way to go about it, the opposite reactions regarding the failure(s) of TBA were going to be just as passionate
 

andre85

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I have accepted this the new Disney. I don't like it at all. I'm not sure the IP focused way of things is going to have the nostalgia factor the original parks had. Look at Universal Hollywood and Nintendo. They go a big bump in attendance it's first year and since then have gone back down.

IMO it's the big issue with these IP lands. People will flock to see them once but they will lose their appeal after the first time.

I don't think you can use that one data point to draw any reasonable conclusion. For instance, that drop may have been a lot steeper were it not for Super Nintendo World.

Furthermore, USJ had seen a steep growth trajectory since SNW opened in early 2021, with 2023 (nearly 3 years after the land's opening by Dec!) being an all-time record for the park, putting it ahead of Tokyo Disneyland for 2 years in a row. Couldn't find 2024 figures, but this already shows your "1 year temporary bump" theory to have problems.
 

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