Agent H
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Good to hear. Side note how did they make a ride about giant robots fighting boring? I don’t care for the movies but that seems like a great idea for a ride.
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While I agree Zelda is unlikely, I don’t think it’s due to a small base. Zelda has two games on the Switch top 10 sellers and is probably the largest it has ever been thanks to the amazing switch games it has had. It’s also really not that hard to understand, it’s high fantasy, it’s three central characters who represent the virtues of power, wisdom, and courage are Gannondorf (evil wizard king bent on conquering the kingdom,) Zelda (magic wielding princess and a Godess reincarnated in human form) and Link (warrior/knight and wielder of the Master Sword (the sword that seals the darkness) and sworn protector of Princess Zelda.) If you know your fairytales (and we are Disney fans here so you better) you can deduce the plot of every Zelda Game based on my description (with the exception of Link’s Awakening and Majoras Mask.)
That said more potter makes more sense then Zelda at USH.
That said more potter makes more sense then Zelda at USH.
lazyboy97o
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Fast & Furious: Supercharged just isn’t that good so there’s no real need to keep it open now that it’s close enough for the weird demand that the franchise have a park presence. The sooner they close it the sooner than can go in and start ripping things out for a more classic, practical studio tour segment.
PiratesMansion
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I get the impression that Zelda is super popular for gamers but hasn't broken in with the non-gaming public in the same way that Mario or Pokemon have. I figure it's especially unlikely at a space-charged park like USH.
While I hope it's not the case, I could also see them closing down FATF Supercharged simply for operational savings. The era of 'Universal can do no wrong and is clearly eating Disney's lunch' seems to be over, or at least diminishing, for the moment.
While I hope it's not the case, I could also see them closing down FATF Supercharged simply for operational savings. The era of 'Universal can do no wrong and is clearly eating Disney's lunch' seems to be over, or at least diminishing, for the moment.
mickEblu
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But it doesn’t have any reach with non gamers. It does not have anywhere near the appeal that Potter/ Pokémon or even Monsters do. And the food/ merch opportunities seem particularly weak. For these reasons using any precious real estate at USH on Zelda would make no sense. This is coming from someone who thinks Ocarina of Time on N64 might be the greatest game of all time. Although I haven’t really gamed since 1999.
PiratesMansion
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I do wonder how much reach and pull the Universal Monsters actually has with the public at this point in time. It is definitely an underutilized IP with a clear fanbase; however, I'm a bit dubious on how large that fanbase actually is right now. Everyone knows Dracula and Frankenstein's Monster, sure, but how many people have actually seen any of these movies and are clamoring for their representation in the park? I imagine it is a small but vocal minority that truly desires a Monsters area/attraction/whatever that exists for longer than just HHN. Some might say a cult audience.
I'm aware that in the past they had the House of Horrors year-round; I even got to experience that shortly before it closed. But it feels like we are a world away in some ways from that time, especially when it comes to awareness of classic films among younger generations, many of whom have probably had little to no exposure to those films beyond what they've gleaned from pop culture osmosis. I imagine many of the people who would be most into a Universal Monsters attraction/area would be older adults that may or may not find the rest of Universal's product appealing.
I'm aware that in the past they had the House of Horrors year-round; I even got to experience that shortly before it closed. But it feels like we are a world away in some ways from that time, especially when it comes to awareness of classic films among younger generations, many of whom have probably had little to no exposure to those films beyond what they've gleaned from pop culture osmosis. I imagine many of the people who would be most into a Universal Monsters attraction/area would be older adults that may or may not find the rest of Universal's product appealing.
mickEblu
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I didn’t mean that people are actually attached to any of the IP. I meant that Monsters have a universal appeal because everyone understands Monsters. A scary bad @$$ state of the art dark ride featuring all the classic Monsters appeal to people the way Pirates and ghosts do. I’ve never seen one of those old Monster movies but I played Ocarina of Time (a Zelda game) for hours on end when I was 16.
Also don’t think they would throw the money they are throwing at the Monsters ride at Epic if they didn’t think it would be huge. If it’s not the most expensive it’s gotta be at least the second most expensive attraction at that park right?
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Agent H
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Monsters might be the land I’m looking forward to the most. Maybe. Nintendo world is tough competition.
mickEblu
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Although i think the land would be a little redundant at USH as Potter is aesthetically similar I think the ride will probably be amazing.
Gusey
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Not an insider but the Zelda rumor at IoA has gone very quiet (It;s been a a year since the last update on it). My opinion is that Wicked is going to IoA after the announcement last week that Wicked attractions were being considered.
As far as Supercharge's replacement, the announcement mentioned a new Studio Tour attraction is going to be announced, so the replacement will probably still be a part of the tram tour
Rich T
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I really like this new promo for UOR. This is exactly the message they should be getting out there to families planning vacations; “This is what we are now.”
Lots of Water Taxi love. Not too heavy on the talking heads. Good presentation of Universal’s “bubble,” and how it has a different vibe from Disney’s… without ever mentioning Disney.
And I love that shot of Hagrid’s because that section of track is my favorite part of the ride.
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Nirya
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A lot of that has to do with the weird way Nintendo chose to market its brands. For better or worse, Mario was always the front-facing icon of Nintendo and was always the focal point of any non-game thing Nintendo did (consider: two movies and a TV show, to go with Mario being the mascot for every sports/racing/typing/whatever game it creates). Nintendo did try a Zelda cartoon show in 1989, but then a recession hit gaming in general and that stuff fell away.
Nintendo is starting to recognize that they could better utilize their IPs, especially in the wake of Super Nintendo World and the Mario movie doing big numbers. There are already reports that Zelda is getting a movie in the future, and it would not shock me that they push for a Zelda land as part of it.
(As for how Pokemon got big despite being a Nintendo property, Nintendo is only a part-owner of the brand, and the Pokemon Company has a highly-vested interest in making the brand as big as possible).
Phroobar
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Agent H
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The park sucked but those adds are pretty cute IMO
truecoat
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In June, my sons and I spent a few days at WDW, the 3 of us took turns riding solo on the two-seater attractions. When we got on Expedition Everest, I ended up riding alone.
As we loaded, I noticed a father and son in the single rider line. The dad gave his son a little nudge toward my car while he took a seat in the one behind us. The boy, who looked no older than 10—maybe 8 or 9—seemed pretty nervous as he slid in next to me. As soon as we pulled down the lap bar, he gripped it tightly.
I asked if he’d ridden before, and he gulped before admitting he hadn’t. Wanting to reassure him, I told him it was a great ride and that he’d have fun.
Afterward, he told me he liked it—but something told me he wouldn’t be rushing for a second ride anytime soon! My sons are grown, but I wouldn't have sent them on a ride like this by themselves so young.
Nirya
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I mean, after two decades I would hope the style of commercial a new park received would change for the better.
lazyboy97o
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Universal Studios Escape says “Hello”.
Phroobar
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So why couldn't you swap seats with the dad?
Rich T
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Thank goodness they decided clarity is a good thing this time around. Kinda miss Cheap Trick’s “Surrender,” though…
truecoat
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Excuse me? CM? Can you unlock my restraint and get the guy 4 or 5 rows back to sit in my spot?