DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Casper Gutman]

1. That's very much your opinion, you're entitled to that, I don't fully agree but if that's how you feel then fine.

2. Whether you trust an "insider" or not, anything that's unconfirmed is a rumor. And there were rumours of Cars months before d23, mainly coming from Brayden at Mickey views who was right about almost everything, including that the RoA would be removed.

3. Whether you like the Cars announcement or not it will give the park more capacity. The amount of people who will experience Cars and villains will be more than TSI and the RoA. I do agree DAK and DHS need way more capacity.

You have no idea of the capacity of Cars. How high is the capacity of Autopia?

And we need to stop pretending Villains is likely to happen. We all know about “blue sky” art and Phase 2s.

 

[CoasterFan27]

The announced changes are awful because (with the exception of the Dinoland redo) they’re awful.

And I’ve come to trust certain insiders enough not to call them rumors. I think it’s fair to say the Moana/ Coco expansion was the plan until a relatively last minute change determined by a top-level desire to save on land development and to include an IP that moves more merch.

The core issue is that the WDW parks desperately need added capacity, especially MK, but that management absolutely will not acknowledge this or act on it for reasons largely connected to executive egos.

There's always going to be ideas bouncing around inside a company that never see the light of day, and usually because of what makes the most money/smaller cost, that's not a weird Disney thing that's just an artefact of decision making for any group of people selling a product.

As Starship said you're only disappointed by the announcements because you invented your own reality of what those announcements would be. Nothing is real until it's built, announcements are only a step towards reality, and ideas within the company that never get announced (even if they have money spent on potential designs) are abundant, transient, and a recipe for disappointment if you think they should all turn into announcements.

 

[Casper Gutman]

There's always going to be ideas bouncing around inside a company that never see the light of day, and usually because of what makes the most money/smaller cost, that's not a weird Disney thing that's just an artefact of decision making for any group of people selling a product.

As Starship said you're only disappointed by the announcements because you invented your own reality of what those announcements would be. Nothing is real until it's built, announcements are only a step towards reality, and ideas within the company that never get announced (even if they have money spent on potential designs) are abundant, transient, and a recipe for disaster if you think they should all turn into announcements.

Again, the “rumors” were encouraging because they ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE RESORT NEEDS CAPACITY.

I’m disappointed in the announcements because, outside of Dinoland, they’re awful. They’re removing beloved attractions for underwhelming replacements, Disney’s pattern for three decades.

 

[Starship824]

You have no idea of the capacity of Cars. How high is the capacity of Autopia?

And we need to stop pretending Villains is likely to happen. We all know about “blue sky” art and Phase 2s.

1. Not entirely sure, but if we were to compare the theoretical complicity of each shouldn't we sue Test Track and RSR?

2. You can't just ignore villains cause it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[Bocabear]

1. That's very much your opinion, you're entitled to that, I don't fully agree but if that's how you feel then fine.

2. Whether you trust an "insider" or not, anything that's unconfirmed is a rumor. And there were rumours of Cars months before d23, mainly coming from Brayden at Mickey views who was right about almost everything, including that the RoA would be removed.

3. Whether you like the Cars announcement or not it will give the park more capacity. The amount of people who will experience Cars and villains will be more than TSI and the RoA. I do agree DAK and DHS need way more capacity.

yeah, but by that argument adding two Himalaya spinners on Main Street would also give the park more capacity... Any attraction will give the park more capacity...that doesn't mean that any addition is a good idea....especially when there are shuttered attractions in the park... And the charm of the Magic Kingdom is not based on the "latest greatest movie franchise" but the fairytale classics, and old Disney nostalgia... Let DHS and EPCOT have the trendy new IP... Magic Kingdom was never based on current hit IP attractions... ever. And yet, somehow it is the most visited and popular of the Disney parks.

 

[Casper Gutman]

1. Not entirely sure, but if we were to compare the theoretical complicity of each shouldn't we sue Test Track and RSR?

2. You can't just ignore villains cause it doesn't fit your narrative.

The Cars attraction announced for MK is not analogous to RSR or TT.

You can’t ignore Disneys history or the nature of the D23 announcements to pretend Villains is more then a blue sky concept. Remember the Coco “Beyond Thunder Mountain” art shown by Disney at D23 in 2022? The stuff you said was an unfounded rumor?

 

[James Alucobond]

And we need to stop pretending Villains is likely to happen. We all know about “blue sky” art and Phase 2s.

I think Villains pt. 1 is technically also phase 1, just opening later than Cars because it will take longer. It’s planned subsequent additions to Villains that would ultimately be phase 2.

 

[LittleBuford]

I can’t imagine they’d announce Villains Land if they weren’t absolutely sure they could follow through with it. This isn’t the Main Street Theater we’re talking about, but something that has far too much significance to fans to be dangled and taken away.

 

[LSLS]

I can’t imagine they’d announce Villains Land if they weren’t absolutely sure they could follow through with it. This isn’t the Main Street Theater we’re talking about, but something that has far too much significance to fans to be dangled and taken away.

Agree, I think there's next to no chance the lands announced aren't happening. Now, they could be scaled back, but they will happen. BUT, I also think these hopes for other things could easily be cancelled, which is why I hate Monsters at Muppets. It's not that I muppets must stay forever (though I'd love them to), it's that I could EASILY see them not doing whatever their plan for AC is. And then you lose muppets and don't increase capacity too much for no reason.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I can’t imagine they’d announce Villains Land if they weren’t absolutely sure they could follow through with it. This isn’t the Main Street Theater we’re talking about, but something that has far too much significance to fans to be dangled and taken away.

The execs absolutely don’t consider fans in those terms - and, frankly, most fans will just forget anyway, especially if Disney dangles the next shiny object in front of them and just “delays” the project indefinitely rather then cancelling. Villains was trotted out in the same “blue sky” manner as Coco beyond BTM in 2022. Villains was in the same segment in 2022, not coincidentally.

 

[Casper Gutman]

We’d expect to see Villains in what, 2031? 2032? It’s blue sky.

 

[ToTBellHop]

We’d expect to see Villains in what, 2031? 2032? It’s blue sky.

If you say that one more time, you’ll have worn us all down and we will believe you.

 

[LSLS]

The execs absolutely don’t consider fans in those terms - and, frankly, most fans will just forget anyway, especially if Disney dangles the next shiny object in front of them and just “delays” the project indefinitely rather then cancelling. Villains was trotted out in the same “blue sky” manner as Coco beyond BTM in 2022. Villains was in the same segment in 2022, not coincidentally.

I disagree. MAYBE with Monsters. But Villains is far too big a deal for that to happen. They absolutely could budget cut and bare bones it, but even that I think is less likely (far more likely for Monsters and Cars).

 

[James Alucobond]

We’d expect to see Villains in what, 2031? 2032? It’s blue sky.

Pretty sure that's not the actual phase it's still in? Just because the artwork shown was relatively conceptual doesn't mean it's actually in blue sky.

 

[LittleBuford]

The execs absolutely don’t consider fans in those terms - and, frankly, most fans will just forget anyway, especially if Disney dangles the next shiny object in front of them and just “delays” the project indefinitely rather then cancelling. Villains was trotted out in the same “blue sky” manner as Coco beyond BTM in 2022. Villains was in the same segment in 2022, not coincidentally.

I respectfully disagree. I can't not see it happening.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Pretty sure that's not the actual phase it's still in? Just because the artwork shown was relatively conceptual doesn't mean it's actually in blue sky.

It’s a blue sky of a blue sky

 

[ToTBellHop]

Can’t we be a little rational and admit they’ll build all of these areas?

But, we will hate them all.
If anyone tries positivity:

 

[Disstevefan1]

Can’t we be a little rational and admit they’ll build all of these areas?

But, we will hate them all.

I wouldn’t hate it if they spare Muppets and put Monsters in the launch bay.

Hey it’s Friday AND we are in the new fiscal quarter for TWDC, do we think they are going to sneak in an announcement later today?

 

[ToTBellHop]

I wouldn’t hate it if they spare Muppets and put Monsters in the launch bay.

Hey it’s Friday AND we are in the new fiscal quarter for TWDC, do we think they are going to sneak in an announcement later today?

 

[marni1971]

I disagree. MAYBE with Monsters. But Villains is far too big a deal for that to happen.

Tell that to Muppets Movieland. Africa. Israel. Etc etc.