Brer Panther
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You can probably add anything Marvel to that list. Maybe Inside Out, too, considering how much Iger wants to put it in the Imagination pavilion.
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News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom
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BlakeW39
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I honestly find it hilarious how Iger does like, the exact opposite of what we want literally every chance he gets. Genuinely like, what the hell, hahaha
BlakeW39
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Zootopia was a pretty good film. Not great. Definitely inferior to a lot of the Eisner era films in some ways. But among Iger's Tangled-Encanto era movies, I'd say Zootopia is in the upper half. That is however not saying much being that I haven't loved any of them. Tangled was probably the best imo. Moana was whatever.
Haymarket2008
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Chiming in re: Dinoland and Dinosaur.
I brought 3 friends of mine to DAK this week. All of them have never been before. Dinosaur was far and away the outlier for all of them. They didn't hate it but they collectively agreed that it sticks out like a sore thumb. Seeing it through their eyes was very informative.
That being said, I really dislike the idea of Zootopia going in. Completely destroys the integrity of the park, imho. Luckily it won't impact all the glorious things that already exist in DAK, but to have it be a part of the line up is.....problematic.
I brought 3 friends of mine to DAK this week. All of them have never been before. Dinosaur was far and away the outlier for all of them. They didn't hate it but they collectively agreed that it sticks out like a sore thumb. Seeing it through their eyes was very informative.
That being said, I really dislike the idea of Zootopia going in. Completely destroys the integrity of the park, imho. Luckily it won't impact all the glorious things that already exist in DAK, but to have it be a part of the line up is.....problematic.
Advisable Joseph
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This relates to the idea, as the creators explained, that the animals are not stand-ins for humans, and predators do not stand in for any particular minority. Once you start thinking of Zootopians as stand-ins, the movie quickly gets offensive. I think that's the real problem I have with the Rohde tweet that keeps on popping up, though I'm not sure he meant that Zootopia was racist.
Whoops, I didn’t realize you were part of the “silent majority.” I didn’t realize you actually understood the positive themes like fighting prejudice and that it specifically made you like the movie less. I should’ve known.
Any mention of "allegory" by the creators refers to a modern sense, which merely states that there is some loose, albeit intentional, similarities; you're not supposed to think every aspect of predators refers to, say, Black people.
Zootopia was a fantasy about animals first, so you don't have to think this way.
Even if you don't think it fits in Animal Kingdom.
aladdin2007
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I think Wish may blow all of those out of the water, from what has been seen so far. Probably not something they could ever implement at AK exactly, but if its big, somewhere.
999th Happy Haunt
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Idk you’re helping your case with this one dawg…This relates to the idea, as the creators explained, that the animals are not stand-ins for humans, and predators do not stand in for any particular minority. Once you start thinking of Zootopians as stand-ins, the movie quickly gets offensive. I think that's the real problem I have with the Rohde tweet that keeps on popping up, though I'm not sure he meant that Zootopia was racist.
Any mention of "allegory" by the creators refers to a modern sense, which merely states that there is some loose, albeit intentional, similarities; you're not supposed to think every aspect of predators refers to, say, Black people.
Zootopia was a fantasy about animals first, so you don't have to think this way.
Even if you don't think it fits in Animal Kingdom.
Bocabear
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And honestly, does every film need to have an attraction? There have been plenty of good and successful Disney films that have no attraction at all...and are not discussed.... Zootopia just happens to be more recent... How long did it take for them to come around on giving Little Mermaid an attraction? Let's wait 20 years and see if people still care about Zootopia the way Little Mermaid has endured...I can tell you it won't...I have seen it twice and I stopped caring about it immediately...lol
James Alucobond
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I think it’s just a reflection of how they think about things now. If something is popular and isn’t represented in the parks, it’s lost revenue. Think about the lines Frozen Ever After generated for what is basically a C-ticket. That said, Zootopia is kind of puzzling to me. It’s popular in Asia; but not nearly so here; their obsession with it in the western parks feels misguided.
aladdin2007
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agree, its like they dont think or care anymore, its all about shoehorning in/value engineering. Sometimes I think hong kong or shanghai is really running our parks not Disney World at all. but thats a topic that could go many directions lol.
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Bocabear
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I agree...I think it would make a fun video game...Attraction? I am not so sure. I think it would end up a lot like the Monsters Inc ride at DCA.... Which doesn't do the IP any favors....
Moana could have made an epic E ticket attraction, but now the opportunity for that seems wasted with the use of the IP in the central location in the old Future World...
aladdin2007
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a version of Fire Mountain would have been perfect tied into that for adventureland, but they aren't doing those kinds of things anymore only removing them...Way too many things are appearing lazy, ill conceived and wrongly placed.
James Alucobond
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I would actually say overwrought rather than lazy, with too much of a focus of storytelling rather than storyshowing.
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
- No
Were there actual plans for Fire Mountain that existed at one time/what do we know about it? @marni1971 got anything on this?
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alexdisney
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Will they just announce something already?
We first went to Disney World in Dec 2019, and I don't think they have officially announced and started building a new ride since. Tron was already being built when we first went and I am not counting Splash Mountain. Cosmic Rewind was announced a few months before we went
We first went to Disney World in Dec 2019, and I don't think they have officially announced and started building a new ride since. Tron was already being built when we first went and I am not counting Splash Mountain. Cosmic Rewind was announced a few months before we went
It’s called blue sky for a reason.
MagicHappens1971
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While nothing has broken ground yet (obviously), it doesn't mean Disney isn't actively working on plans. I would rather they wait and announce till their ready to break ground.
They're not going to announce anything until Destination D or if Universal makes some dramatic EU announcements prior to that.