News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Boy that's going to be so "expensive" and years more challenging to get the Casita world to accurately bloom in aray full of roses, chrysanthemums, vines, flor de mayo (may flowers), cacti, jacarandas, strangler figs, palma de cera (wax palm), sundew, and tabebuia, that's a commitment of itself to get done most of What Else Can She Do!!"* colorful surplexity is surplus more than seven years of ice palace crystalling!* 😵
Tabebuia? Boo-yah!!

 

Disgruntled Walt

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Tabebuia? Boo-yah!!

Speaking of rides they should include in a South American land...
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I still have my sketch of the Emperor's New Cruise...all they have to do is ask.
 

IMDREW

Well-Known Member
You gotta understand, in the whole add instead of replace discussion, that adding also means more labor, more expensive to run the park. I think thats one of their main factors for replacing instead of adding to the parks. Why add a ride AND keep staffing a low interest ride when replacing said ride grows attendance without higher running costs.

Not that I agree with the approach.
 

MagicHappens1971

Well-Known Member
You gotta understand, in the whole add instead of replace discussion, that adding also means more labor, more expensive to run the park. I think thats one of their main factors for replacing instead of adding to the parks. Why add a ride AND keep staffing a low interest ride when replacing said ride grows attendance without higher running costs.
I disagree with you here, labor cost is pennies to Disney. It’s cheaper to retrofit/use existing infrastructure than build something brand new. It’s also because they are replacing experiences that need overhauls instead of giving maintenance money & building new attractions
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
You gotta understand, in the whole add instead of replace discussion, that adding also means more labor, more expensive to run the park. I think thats one of their main factors for replacing instead of adding to the parks. Why add a ride AND keep staffing a low interest ride when replacing said ride grows attendance without higher running costs.

Not that I agree with the approach.
Surely true though it is sad when the same concept doesn’t happen in DLR (eg MMRR being a new build there).

I also honestly and cynically wonder if part of the idea is to intentionally not increase attraction capacity because doing so makes the park less miserable and decreases the need and presumably sales of Genie+
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Tropical Americas is the first piece of "Blue Sky" art that was publicly released in HD downloads for press/media. All others were just images shown on-screen at the Expo. With that in mind, Tropical Americas sounds pretty much set in stone and not as Blue Sky as we think. The land actually makes sense for AK
I got this email from D23. They act as though it’s a done deal.
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They just use terminology stating that the specific IPs described are being “considered”. I really can’t see them skipping on Indy, though. They have the ride system and need to update Dino anyway. Might as well spend a bit more and get a new headliner.
 

MagicHappens1971

Well-Known Member
I got this email from D23. They act as though it’s a done deal.
They sent that out, but in the official Parks Blog post it says

“JUST IN: New experiences inspired by “Encanto” – the Academy Award winning Walt Disney Animation Studios film – and the fan-favorite adventurer Indiana Jones are being considered for the reimagined land at Disney’s Animal Kingdom!

Bruce says there’s a long way to go and a lot more to discove
r but Imagineering teams in Florida are up for the challenge.”

It’s like corporate gaslighting
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Part of what I wonder is if we're staring down a $700 Million project to once again end up with a net gain of 0 new rides in that park.

EPCOT and Hollywood Studios both managed to spend a Billion dollars and not actually solve the issue of each park needing more rides.

If Animal Kingdom does move forward with this (and that's a sizeable "if"), it's unlikely to cost as much as Star Wars or Pandora but I'd guess would cost more than Toy Story Land. Can they really still be willing to spend that much money and not actually fix the problems the parks are having? Who's in charge here?
We can keep making that argument but right now we're at a negative number. This probably needs to happen before any true expansion.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Also, could the queue to Expedition Everest be changed some to open up a pathway to the north over there?
That wouldn't be necessary. There's room between Kali and Everest. It would be a very long loop, but if you want to complete the loop they could do it.

What's more likely is a dead end (or a connection from Africa to Rafiki's Planet Watch) with any substantial show buildings existing on the East side of that large plot of land.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
You gotta understand, in the whole add instead of replace discussion, that adding also means more labor, more expensive to run the park. I think thats one of their main factors for replacing instead of adding to the parks. Why add a ride AND keep staffing a low interest ride when replacing said ride grows attendance without higher running costs.

Not that I agree with the approach.
Every park has an attraction or 6 (looking at you EPCOT) that need an update. We want to see expansion, but it doesn't mean that replacements / upgrades aren't also necessary.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I got this email from D23. They act as though it’s a done deal.
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They just use terminology stating that the specific IPs described are being “considered”. I really can’t see them skipping on Indy, though. They have the ride system and need to update Dino anyway. Might as well spend a bit more and get a new headliner.
Even if Disney didn't hedge their bets on this, at this point don't we have to assume that not all D23 expo announcements will happen?
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Even if Disney didn't hedge their bets on this, at this point don't we have to assume that not all D23 expo announcements will happen?
Of course. And the company should realize that is a problem. Don’t announce things you don’t build. Put the failed ideas in a coffee table book 15 years later so no one is upset. They are damaging their own reputation. Meanwhile, Universal builds a new theme park and has only confirmed one land.
 
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Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
Of course. And the company should realize that is a problem. Don’t announce things you don’t build. Put the failed ideas in a coffee table book 15 years later so no one is upset. They are damaging their own reputation. Meanwhile, Universal builds a new theme park and has only confirmed one land.
That's the best way to do it. Regional parks do it that way too. It makes no sense to announce something thats years away from being built knowing that it won't end up as announced.

Don't announce anything til shovels are in the ground.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I mean the Play! pavillion, Main Street Theatre & Mary Poppins expansion all suffered this fate
Original New Fantasyland build, Hyperion Wharf...

I remember asking Jim Hill on a podcast back in the day, "who has a better track record, you or Jay Rasulo?" For all the crap we give insiders and alleged insiders, Disney's record with announcements is just as bad.

Of course. And the company should realize that is a problem. Don’t announce things you don’t build. Put the failed ideas in a coffee table book 15 years later so no one is upset. They are damaging their own reputation. Meanwhile, Universal builds a new theme park and has only confirmed one land.
Alicia Stella has given infinitely more information on Epic Universe than the company has. It's impressive.
 

WaltsTreasureChest

Well-Known Member
Absolutely mind blowing. As well as tarzan. Think gorilla s belong in Animal Kingdom and it has a killer soundtrack. Think a very slow moving water ride tied to Bambi would be popular amongst the very little ones. Absolutely like Moana but she has her (missed kind of ride) shot in Epcot.
Oh so you want a Tarzan ride with Phil Collins music blasting through the area??
 

Kev1982

Well-Known Member
Oh so you want a Tarzan ride with Phil Collins music blasting through the area??
Would love it. A coaster through the jungle . Sabor animatronic somewhere. Some gorilla story telling scenes. Waiting queue through a Trashin’ the camp scene. Throw in “Tarzan-la rencontre” that used to play in DLP and it would be a great expansion. Is that such a bad idea?
 

J4546

Well-Known Member
I hanging jungle coaster that made you feel as if you were swinging from tree to tree would be cool. and phil collins soundtrack only makes it cooler. But I doubt that will ever happen
 

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