News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom

[BlakeW39]

As I have mentioned here, I have never been on MMRR, but the very fact that it replaced GMR makes me dislike it. And furthermore, they've used the nightmare-inducing Mickey from the new shorts. I don't have a problem with MMRR existing somewhere (Animation Courtyard??!), and GMR was also based on IP. Mickey and Minnie are an IP that should have a ride. Just not there. And not looking like that.

Yeah, I don't care for the new Mickey look. Definitely fails to capture the charm of the classic characters and misunderstands their appeal. They are well animated and often pretty funny, but they're not doinf justice to the characters they portray.

 

[doctornick]

i mean the complaining about it is tiresome at this point.

it's coming

where it's going is probably the best option, outside of RPW

The "best option" in DAK is a brand new plot of land, not replacing the dinosaur section of the park.

 

[FigmentFan82]

The "best option" in DAK is a brand new plot of land, not replacing the dinosaur section of the park.

but that's not happening soo...

 

[Rteetz]

but that's not happening soo...

Nothing is happening until dirt is being moved and even then things change. Just look at Epcot.

 

[BlakeW39]

Nothing is happening until dirt is being moved and even then things change. Just look at Epcot.

^^^^ I have learned too many times that plans are almost always scaled back from what is originally promised

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Nothing is happening until dirt is being moved and even then things change. Just look at Epcot.

EPCOT taught us that even if they spend $100+ million and open something, it may not last long (Harmonious).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Themes are the underlying predicates which string together a creative enterprise. In order for a work of art to be cohesive, it must be thematically consistent. Zootopia is inconsistent with the themes of Animal Kingdom, and therefore— no matter where it goes —will hinder the park with its presence alone.

This is a 100% excellent point.

We complained about avatar…but at least conservation/environment destruction (ferngully) could be stretched to fit DAK…

But “animals dressed as humans” and using machinery?

No…that’s flat wrong. Not close.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nothing is happening until dirt is being moved and even then things change. Just look at Epcot.

…I feel like mom on graduation day

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

EPCOT taught us that even if they spend $100+ million and open something, it may not last long (Harmonious).

I think that taught us what awful management combined with gutted, inexperienced WDI will get you…

 

[Advisable Joseph]

While I'm not sure that I like the new "ride the movies" premise of DHS, because I find it wildly generic and not really any different than what they're trying to do with the rest of their parks....at this point, it is a lost cause. There is no feasible way to course correct DHS and return it to its original theme. So sure, bring on the IP lands. Zootopia had good world building and is popular with some internet communities, so I don't personally have an issue with a miniland at DHS. However I doubt the franchise has enough draw to support anything more than a miniland.

When you are talking about Hollywood Studios, are you talking about my suggestion that the city could be just west of that park? I'm looking for some loophole to the reports that Hollywood Studios will not see more development in the near future.

Anyway, if that was the plan, I'd think there would be more to it than just Zootopia.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

When you are talking about Hollywood Studios, are you talking about my suggestion that the city could be just west of that park? I'm looking for some loophole to the reports that Hollywood Studios will not see more development in the near future.

Anyway, if that was the plan, I'd think there would be more to it than just Zootopia.

I personally don’t think DHS will see any significant development for the next 4-6 years.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

I personally don’t think DHS will see any significant development for the next 4-6 years.

Now, the question is, can Epcot see any more development in the next few years?

 

[BlakeW39]

This is a 100% excellent point.

We complained about avatar…but at least conservation/environment destruction (feenfully) could be stretched to fit DAK…

But “animals dressed as humans” and using machinery?

No…that’s flat wrong. Not close.

All works of art...theme parks, films, novels, comic books, cartoons...need to be consistent in their themes and tone in order to be coherent. Zootopia clashes with the park in terms of theme, tone, and subject matter. Avatar wasn't my choice for a new DAK land back when it was announced.... it has Iger written all over it; he wanted to plus DAK which at the time was a half day park really, but the planned Beastly Kingdomme expansion didn't fit into the framework of his franchise mandate and so he ruled it out. Thus we got Pandora instead. But Rohde did a good job with the land and it feels at home in DAK. That could simply never happen with Zootopia.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I personally don’t think DHS will see any significant development for the next 4-6 years.

You’re low…probably 15-20

Look at the pattern. There’s a MINIMUM of 10 years of eat/rot after a fantastic Iger miniland…

Carsland? 13
“New” fantasyland? 10
Avatar? Going on 7 at this exact minute.


This is all part of the “theory”…you can’t compete with that IP…so don’t build for the peasants to be refreshed

 

[BlakeW39]

You’re low…probably 15-20

Look at the pattern. There’s a MINIMUM of 10 years of eat/rot after a fantastic Iger miniland…

Carsland? 13
“New” fantasyland? 10
Avatar? Going on 7 at this exact minute.


This is all part of the “theory”…you can’t compete with that IP…so don’t build for the peasants to be refreshed

You're probably right but I think that depends on the kind of leadership we have over the next couple of decades. Eisner invested in the parks with a higher frequency than once every decade, he built and then expanded DAK twice within an 8 year period. Iger on the other hand pretty much let the parks rot until he couldn't anymore. If we get another Iger I'd say it's game over and any of the hopes people on this board have for how the parks can be fixed....and this including myself......are 'gone with the wind.' We'll have another dark period on our hands

 

[BlakeW39]

Also hot take.... Animal Kingdom was a better park in 2006 than it is now, even with Pandora. FOP is great but I'd rather have the other attractions working than have all the other attractions with broken effects but, oh well at least we got Pandora.

 

[KingMickey13]

Just got off of Dinosaur (as in 10 minutes ago) and I noticed how dilapidated it’s become. Half the effects don’t work anymore. They have turned down the lights to hide the broken animatronics. It’s clear Disney is thinking of replacing it.

 

[Bocabear]

Just got off of Dinosaur (as in 10 minutes ago) and I noticed how dilapidated it’s become. Half the effects don’t work anymore. They have turned down the lights to hide the broken animatronics. It’s clear Disney is thinking of replacing it.

or just saving money on maintenance? I would believe that before thinking anything new is coming anytime soon...especially with the center of EPCOT still torn up and a mess I think they will get everything completed and then wait a few years before doing anything else...I mean, there are still people who have not seen Galaxy's Edge, MMRR, Tron,and GOTG yet... I am sure they will wait some years until everyone is thoroughly tired of them, and Epic Universe gets through a couple years of operation before they consider anything new or refreshing Journey Into Imagination.... Besides, doesn't Tomorrowland need an Encanto attraction? lol

 

[KingMickey13]

or just saving money on maintenance? I would believe that before thinking anything new is coming anytime soon...especially with the center of EPCOT still torn up and a mess I think they will get everything completed and then wait a few years before doing anything else...I mean, there are still people who have not seen Galaxy's Edge, MMRR, Tron,and GOTG yet... I am sure they will wait some years until everyone is thoroughly tired of them, and Epic Universe gets through a couple years of operation before they consider anything new or refreshing Journey Into Imagination.... Besides, doesn't Tomorrowland need an Encanto attraction? lol

Insiders have been saying that new things are coming. Epcot won’t be fixed and neither will studios, at least for a long time.

 

[JD80]

It's basically what they did for Splash for a year or more leading up to it's closing.