Yeti is indeed being fixed! Update 8/4/2014

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MickeyPeace

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RSoxNo1 said:
People are going to hear what they want to hear. Back to what I deal with on a weekly basis in terms of editing content. There was a comment made on this week's show about Disney not acknowledging Gay days. I left it in because if it offended anyone it was going to be someone that was homophobic. I'm not worried about offending someone like that because I strongly believe in the side I'd have to take to defend the comment in the show.
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Thanks for taking a stand against homophobia. I'd like to check out your podcast. Can you post a link here or give the name?

Thanks.
 
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DarrenLevesley

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Rob562 said:
I'm sure the Discovery Channel would be happy to sell it to you on DVD on their site... ;) Amazon probably has it, too. If you have Netflix, check for it there. I know they have a few of the Disney parks specials.

-Rob
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Thanks Rob ..... did check there site (Discovery channel) but could not see it anywhere.
 
Lee

Lee

Adventurer
juniorthomas said:
They'll make it a new CM role. I'm looking at you Disney College Program kids.
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Yep. Every hour a new CP kid will have to get into the suit...
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njDizFan

njDizFan

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I actually laughed out loud in my office when I saw that. Both incredibly funny and somewhat creepy. What a Halloween costume that would be.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Lee said:
Just wondering out loud...

Knowing that a version of Everest is planned for one of Shanghai's expansion pads....wonder what they'll do about the yeti situation.
Build him right this time?
Skip him altogether?
Do it a new way?
Hire Bigfoot instead?

:shrug:
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From my understanding regarding the Shanghai deal, Disney has learned their lesson from Hong Kong Disneyland Resort and will have less of a financial stake in the project while still retaining control. Unless the Chinese have been paying attention to this issue, their plan is probably to get the Chinese to pay for anything bad that arrises.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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RSoxNo1 said:
We are trying to find our niche. But the reason we created a show was because there are too many podcasts out there that take Disney too seriously. I love Disney as much as anyone on here, and I can have a serious conversation about it for hours. However outside of those hardcore Disney fans, that's simply not interesting.
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Too serious??!?! Shocking ...:ROFLOL:
I've never listened to any podcast (unless you count that D23 geek, which I may have through 2-3 times to see what the company was putting out). I will give yours a listen though, just so I know what was going on on the other end of that phone call.

RSoxNo1 said:
Our objective was to create a show that is more easily digestible. One that doesn't sugar coat things, but also one that doesn't take Disney too seriously. We can joke about it, and we occasionally cross some lines with our humor that other shows wouldn't. We even had to go to the extent of releasing monthly uncensored shows that are basically content that was too inappropriate for what the expectations have become for a Disney podcast.
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Ah, you are making it sound better by the minute. ... I love inappropriate ... well, not what I would ever consider so, but I do enjoy more adult content.

Have you talked about fanbois and the plush they sleep with yet?:eek:

RSoxNo1 said:
As for getting free stuff - it hasn't happened yet, but I wouldn't be opposed to receiving some of that. This may sound cliche, but I believe that if we were to accept any type of free swag (I'll be requesting press credentials for the D23 convention for example) it won't change the nature of our show.
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I think it's a very slippery slope. I also think it illustrates why Disney has gone aggressively after the so-called social media v. old/mainstream media. People who have never gone to a real private party (no MVMCP doesn't count) in a Disney park ... or sat at a table drinking free booze with a 'celeb' Imagineer ... and come back to a free resort room with gifts lying on the bed are not likely to be critical of the Mouse because they know they won't be invited back otherwise. ... This isn't like it once was.

The first Disney 'event' I went to was in the summer of 1990 to open the Dolphin Hotel and the first additions to Disney-MGM like Star Tours and Muppets Today or whatever that show was called (the ________ Tracy premiere was also at PI at the time, but I wasn't on 'that' list) and back then if say a reporter from a newspaper in Phoenix or Detroit ripped the whole place, there was no danger they wouldn't be invited back because Disney had to. ... they don't have to treat social media the same way.

I need to watch my words, but Disney wasn't expecting some of the negatives of having social media in such a large group at the Disney Dream launch. People were treated differently based on their perceived importance to TWDC and being that you're dealing with fans, you got complaints because people took things personally not understanding the business. When one blogger gets a room at the GF for three nights, but someone else gets one night at the Pop or one person gets to bring three family members while another is told 'no guests' or things of that nature, they appeared immediately online ...

A seasoned journalist is going to need more than what Disney offers to buy positive coverage. But a Mommy from Ohio ... well, let's just say Disney has opened up a very big can of worms.

I am a firm believer that Disney is wasting resources by preaching to the choir. You don't grow your business by going after an audience you already own.

RSoxNo1 said:
Absolutely. I find that I'm constantly thinking about Disney (often times it's from an uber-nerdy operations standpoint, or a show idea).

And to give you an even nerdier answer I'll quote Ben Franklin at the American Adventure:

"I may have invented these bifocals I'm wearing, but I can assure you they're not rose-colored"

There are those in the podcast community, and those on the internet fan community that never question Disney on anything. Then there are those that seemingly question everything they do despite claiming to love the company. For lack of a better comparison, think of it from a political standpoint - most of the political media is either extreme right or extreme left, when reality is somewhere in the middle.

We've been complaining about the Yeti for quite some time. We're not alone, it's a legitimate complaint. Like others we've complained about Stitch's Great Escape, yet we've pointed out that there are some good components to the attraction (the AA, the music, the cryptogram).


The thing with the Yeti is that it is the single biggest icon for declining by degrees. Everest is a good coaster without it, but it was a difference maker for the attraction. Having said that, there are others on here that would make the same claim about the Lights of Winter removal being the single biggest icon for declining by degrees. I'm not sure if that portion of our conversation made it to the show this week, but I know I mentioned that the fact there was a 200+ page thread on the Lights of Winter on WDWMagic is absolutely ridiculous.
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I found the LoW an interesting point because it seemed to galvanize the fans all at once, which really never happens at WDW.

I think no matter what the complaint is whether it is LoW or the yeti or the nothing that is happening where PI sat, fans tend to focus on the micro aspect. They don't look at the bigger picture of WDW, let alone Parks and Resorts and how it all fits in with the agenda of TWDC.

If they love EPCOT, they may not give a damn about DAK at all. If they love WDW, then they may not care about DL or parks in Asia and Europe 'because I'll never get there'. If they care about animation, then they may not care about what ABC or ESPN are doing etc ... in other words, they don't look at the entire picture and why things are the way they are.

I am down on the fan community in the micro sense, but I just view it as a symptom of the current human condition (especially in the USA). I don't believe people engage their brains nearly enough.

RSoxNo1 said:
I've only been to Sanaa once, I'm sure I'll eventually return because I would still like to see the new Kadani Exclusive Savannah (I believe it's called the Pembe Savannah).
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I'd definitely do so. Much better than I expected ...


RSoxNo1 said:
People are going to hear what they want to hear. Back to what I deal with on a weekly basis in terms of editing content. There was a comment made on this week's show about Disney not acknowledging Gay days. I left it in because if it offended anyone it was going to be someone that was homophobic. I'm not worried about offending someone like that because I strongly believe in the side I'd have to take to defend the comment in the show.
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Honestly, I don't see how any homophobe can be a real Disney fan. Like any entertainment company, Disney has many amazing gay (and straight) CMs but certainly more than you'd get in other fields. And there's no way you can go through a day at WDW without encountering a large number (whether you know it or not). ... Haven't heard your comments yet, but Disney likes to attract many guests who don't appreciate diversity when they have an incredibly diverse workforce. So while Disney welcomes gay Days and all the $$$ they bring, Disney would prefer if they didn't get quite so much attention that might scare some folks in the heartland who haven't figured out that there are gay people in their own towns.

Anyway, look forward to listening to your podcast.:)
 
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KingdomKeeper

Member
RSoxNo1 said:
We've been complaining about the Yeti for quite some time. We're not alone, it's a legitimate complaint. Like others we've complained about Stitch's Great Escape, yet we've pointed out that there are some good components to the attraction (the AA, the music, the cryptogram).
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Not to take this thread off-topic...but could you point me in the direction of information regarding the cryptogram? I haven't heard of it and google fails me at the moment.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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Lee said:
Just wondering out loud...

Knowing that a version of Everest is planned for one of Shanghai's expansion pads....wonder what they'll do about the yeti situation.
Build him right this time?
Skip him altogether?
Do it a new way?
Hire Bigfoot instead?

:shrug:
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Considering that Iger still couldn't announce a done deal on Shanghai at today's shareholders meeting, I wouldn't get so far ahead of yourself ... even having seen what sure looks like Everest on said expansion pad.

There's also no telling that they might not take the mountain and basic ride system and do something a little different with it.

I can't see them building another yeti unless they have absolutely no doubt they won't have these issues again.
 
Wilt Dasney

Wilt Dasney

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KingdomKeeper said:
Not to take this thread off-topic...but could you point me in the direction of information regarding the cryptogram? I haven't heard of it and google fails me at the moment.
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This is an indirect bit of help, but if you go to Steve's photo thread about the HM queue and click the first Youtube link posted in there, the bit of video with the cryptogram also has an embedded link to some sort of solving legend or key (didn't click it myself).

That's about 3 clicks removed from this post, but you should be able to follow the crumbs. :lol:
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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lazyboy97o said:
From my understanding regarding the Shanghai deal, Disney has learned their lesson from Hong Kong Disneyland Resort and will have less of a financial stake in the project while still retaining control. Unless the Chinese have been paying attention to this issue, their plan is probably to get the Chinese to pay for anything bad that arrises.
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Disney royally screwed the Chinese on the HKDL deal. It was because of that, that there was such a delay in the expansion as TWDC was forced to pick up the tab for the entire expansion ... because of that, Disney's ownership stake increased (I believe from 40 to 47%, but don't have the figures in front of me).

Shanghai ownership will be the exact same deal.
 

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