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[Sans Souci]

Oh no!! I'm so sorry! That is awful! I can't believe they even allow non-vaccinated people to care for vulnerable people. I hear so many people say "Well, it's their own choice if they don't get the vaccine and then they get sick." And it IS, BUT they don't take into consideration all the people those people might infect. There are people who can not get vaccinated because of allergies or certain medical conditions or whatever. They depend on the herd immunity to remain safe. And now there are how many elderly people who might get sick because of selfish idiots who won't do the right thing to protect others. And of course you don't know how long it will be on lockdown because it will depend on how fast the outbreak dies down and how far it spreads. So you can't really make new plans, can you? Does your travel insurance cover this cancelation or are you out the money? I hope it's covered and you can make the trip soon.

What I don't understand is to work in any kind of a care facility, you have to be a registered nurse, right? So you would have to have some medical training and education about pathogens and whatnot, correct? How can you work in a medical field and not believe in vaccines??

Have you mentioned it to your son? I was thinking about this...when A was diagnosed, we got training through an organization here that has done all sorts of research in autism and the founder literally wrote the book on Autism...actually several books. One of the things that our trainer taught us to do with irrational fears was to sketch it out or make a list so he could see it on paper and make connections. You ask him specifically what it is he's afraid of. For example, he's afraid that the vaccine isn't safe and he'll die from it. So you look up the statistics...how many people have died from the vaccine. You can draw stick figures to depict the number of people....1 stick figure for every 100,000 people and then do the same for the number who have died from covid. That way it visually shows how much worse the virus is. You can do the same to show people hospitalized....how many who need hospitalization have been vaccinated and how many are unvaccinated? That shows how much protection he would get from the vaccine. If you look up all the information with him and he SEES it, rather than you just saying it, it could make a difference.

I think airlines are letting people change flights right now without any fees. You just have to pay the difference of the new flights. We were actually thinking of going ahead anyways and getting a hotel room near Lake Michigan and just tour around Chicago on foot. It has been 5 years since I have been in the city proper, so that could be a nice little weekend. I'd rather do it now, than in the winter.

I would like to see more policy changes that favor the vaccinated and those who can't get vaccinated over the unvaccinated. I'm tired of reading things saying it's no big deal if you get sick, it's just like the flu. Yeah, no, how about you get your sorry vaccinated and so we can stop creating variants? Can you get long covid if you get sick while you are vaccinated? I honestly don't know. That is one of my concerns. We just don't have any long term data on this virus.

My son understands the statistics, but he chooses to seek out (mis) information that confirms his world view. He thinks everything is a lie. He told me he is never getting vaccinated because the pharmaceutical companies can't be sued if someone has an adverse reaction. My grandma was trying to talk some sense into him last night and he kept pushing back. I am very close to telling him that if he catches this and gets long covid that renders him unable to carry out his daily activities of living, I will be putting him into a nursing home. There is a vaccine that is safe and effective that can prevent the worst of this virus and he refuses to take it. He is almost 20 and he choses to remain unvaccinated. Choices have consequences.

 

[Sans Souci]

Yup. It's basically the same thing over here. Pharmacies and all WILL NOT vaccinate you if you've had a previous anaphylactic reaction to the vaccine; even my doctor's office won't do it.

But this guy...oh this guy. First, he tried to say that allergies weren't a reason to get the vaccine. I told him he was wrong on that count. He then went on to say that if I wasn't vaccinated, I basically shouldn't be doing anything. Then he backtracked when I told him that I literally wear a mask everywhere and would be willing to be tested if I went to a large event that required vaccination. Then he backtracked again and was making all kinds of wild claims, like that he was some sort of experts, that even kids under 12 shouldn't be going to indoor dining and events even if they're masking/getting covid tests...

My other favorite on that thread was that I questioned if the Florida governor constitutionally had the power to impose some of these executive orders he's made and that some Florida attorneys should seriously look into it. I promptly got told I was wrong. Well, it turns out that there's now a suit where one of the executive orders is being challenged because it violates the Florida state constitution.

That thread is a toxic dumpster fire. It has armchair PhDs, sock puppets that spread misinformation and bad statistics, people who think Anthony Fauci is getting rich off of the "China virus," people come in asking posters how they feel about being guinea pigs. But I keep reading it.

De Santis' EO is why we cancelled our cruise next month. I refuse to get on a ship with unvaccinated people. I am struggling to believe this man went to not one, but two Ivy League schools, because he acts like a moron.

 

[Sans Souci]

I'm so sorry she's going through this all over again.

It's frustrating. She said they can't leave their rooms for 2 weeks, either. That has got to suck.

 

[Lilofan]

That thread is a toxic dumpster fire. It has armchair PhDs, sock puppets that spread misinformation and bad statistics, people who think Anthony Fauci is getting rich off of the "China virus," people come in asking posters how they feel about being guinea pigs. But I keep reading it.

De Santis' EO is why we cancelled our cruise next month. I refuse to get on a ship with unvaccinated people. I am struggling to believe this man went to not one, but two Ivy League schools, because he acts like a moron.

Agree, one would think a Yale undergrad then Harvard law would make him one of the brilliant minds out there.

 

[Sans Souci]

Hello-

I did a full body strength training work out this AM. I am thinking of changing gears and shelving this program until it's cooler out. I am thinking of doing the Couch to 10K when the weather is cooler, too. I'll see how I feel.

I have until tonight to decide if I want to go to NYC to help my husband look for apartment. We would be taking Amtrak up v. driving up. I read that the numbers are increasing there. I am supposed to go to WDW the first week of Sept and I don't want to worry about getting sick while in NYC. This trip is in 2 weeks, but we'd have to cancel the hotel tonight to avoid getting charged for it. My gut tells me to reschedule. I don't think my husband is going to be working up there for a while anyway, the bank he examines has pushed back the date to return to the office to October (I think.).

 

[Sans Souci]

Agree, one would think a Yale undergrad then Harvard law would make him one of the brilliant minds out there.

I'm going to assume he is crazy like a fox and there is a method to his madness, but it's a damaging method, none the less.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

@Sans Souci I have barely seen the lantern flies all year at Hershey. I saw a couple of nymphs and that's been it.

They have all the sudden descended this week. I mean, EVERYWHERE. And the gross part is that Hershey sprays for them, so most of them are dead. Like in bunches. Or they're smashed along the paths from guests (rightfully) killing them.

 

[Songbird76]

I think airlines are letting people change flights right now without any fees. You just have to pay the difference of the new flights. We were actually thinking of going ahead anyways and getting a hotel room near Lake Michigan and just tour around Chicago on foot. It has been 5 years since I have been in the city proper, so that could be a nice little weekend. I'd rather do it now, than in the winter.

I would like to see more policy changes that favor the vaccinated and those who can't get vaccinated over the unvaccinated. I'm tired of reading things saying it's no big deal if you get sick, it's just like the flu. Yeah, no, how about you get your sorry *** vaccinated and so we can stop creating variants? Can you get long covid if you get sick while you are vaccinated? I honestly don't know. That is one of my concerns. We just don't have any long term data on this virus.

My son understands the statistics, but he chooses to seek out (mis) information that confirms his world view. He thinks everything is a lie. He told me he is never getting vaccinated because the pharmaceutical companies can't be sued if someone has an adverse reaction. My grandma was trying to talk some sense into him last night and he kept pushing back. I am very close to telling him that if he catches this and gets long covid that renders him unable to carry out his daily activities of living, I will be putting him into a nursing home. There is a vaccine that is safe and effective that can prevent the worst of this virus and he refuses to take it. He is almost 20 and he choses to remain unvaccinated. Choices have consequences.

What kind of adverse reaction to a vaccine is he expecting to happen that's worse than life-long complications from covid or death? It's way more likely that you end up with permanent lung damage from covid than it is that you'll have such a severe reaction to the vaccine if you've never had a reaction to a vaccine before. He's had other vaccines, right? It's just so frustrating, and I'm not even his parent. You must be ready to pull your hair out dealing with it every day!!

I saw in the news today that a couple of people who were anti-vaccine died of covid, and one guy is in the hospital and begging people to get vaccinated now. And someone's wife...the guy apparently wanted the vaccine, but couldn't get it yet and he died of covid and his wife did an interview and said she just didn't understand because they would have given anything to get that vaccine, and now her husband is dead because he COULDN'T get it, while there are people who have the access he couldn't get and they refuse to get it. It's heartbreaking. I feel bad for the families of people who died because they refused to get vaccinated, but I don't know how that doesn't change people's minds. How can you see someone who told you it was no big deal, it was a hoax, die from it, and not go "Oops...guess he was wrong. Maybe I should get vaccinated." ? I guess one guy who died actually said he was glad he got it so he could show people it was no big deal...he downplayed it right up until he died. How does that not send the message that he was wrong?

 

[Songbird76]

Agree, one would think a Yale undergrad then Harvard law would make him one of the brilliant minds out there.

Well honestly, I don't think you get any better of an education at Harvard or Yale than at any other institution. They have the name and can charge exponentially higher sums for enrollment, but really, it's all hype. Look at the scams all the wealthy people have done to get their children into top schools like that. The amount of money that changes hands...those kids didn't earn their admittance by being intelligent, well-rounded students. They got in because their parents were willing to pay massive amounts of money to bribe officials. And yes, there are some legitimately intelligent people who go there, but there are just as many who go to other colleges. My ex-boyfriend was extremely intelligent. He got an overall score of 35 on his ACT. The only section he never got a perfect score on was Math, and he got a 35 on that. He went to the University of Wyoming, because he got a full ride scholarship there where he couldn't even get half that at an Ivy League school. My brother got a 33 on the ACT and I remember him being shocked when a recruiter called from Cornell. He got off the phone and just kept saying "I just turned down Cornell." He also got a full ride from UWyo. Going to an Ivy league school really doesn't mean much. It's full of people who only got in because they made large donations or bribed officials. There are some brilliant minds who teach at smaller schools. I think I recently read that Einstein went to "black" colleges to lecture because of the racism in some of the most prestigious schools. He didn't want to be a part of it. There are just as many doofuses at Harvard and Yale as there are anywhere else in the world.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Well honestly, I don't think you get any better of an education at Harvard or Yale than at any other institution. They have the name and can charge exponentially higher sums for enrollment, but really, it's all hype. Look at the scams all the wealthy people have done to get their children into top schools like that. The amount of money that changes hands...those kids didn't earn their admittance by being intelligent, well-rounded students. They got in because their parents were willing to pay massive amounts of money to bribe officials. And yes, there are some legitimately intelligent people who go there, but there are just as many who go to other colleges. My ex-boyfriend was extremely intelligent. He got an overall score of 35 on his ACT. The only section he never got a perfect score on was Math, and he got a 35 on that. He went to the University of Wyoming, because he got a full ride scholarship there where he couldn't even get half that at an Ivy League school. My brother got a 33 on the ACT and I remember him being shocked when a recruiter called from Cornell. He got off the phone and just kept saying "I just turned down Cornell." He also got a full ride from UWyo. Going to an Ivy league school really doesn't mean much. It's full of people who only got in because they made large donations or bribed officials. There are some brilliant minds who teach at smaller schools. I think I recently read that Einstein went to "black" colleges to lecture because of the racism in some of the most prestigious schools. He didn't want to be a part of it. There are just as many doofuses at Harvard and Yale as there are anywhere else in the world.

I agree. My guidance counselor tried to get me to apply to Cornell and I was ambivalent, mostly because it was too far north. I refuse to live any further north than southern PA. I could have gone to the local state school for free, but a lot of people advised against it. I ended up going to a private school on a huge scholarship and didn't have to take out student loans.

 

[Songbird76]

I agree. My guidance counselor tried to get me to apply to Cornell and I was ambivalent, mostly because it was too far north. I refuse to live any further north than southern PA. I could have gone to the local state school for free, but a lot of people advised against it. I ended up going to a private school on a huge scholarship and didn't have to take out student loans.

I was lucky enough to get tuition and fees paid for to UWyo, but I was never on par with my brother, and certainly not with my ex-boyfriend. He was a presidential scholar...top male student in the entire state. I could never have gotten into an ivy league school and even if I could have, we could never have afforded it. I got enough scholarships to cover my entire first year with room, board, and books, and I had tuition and fees for my entire education. I only had to pay for room and board for the last few years. And the competition to get into those "top" schools is fierce...there are thousands who apply and don't get in, even with the same amazing transcripts and test scores that the ones who DID get in got. And all those students end up at some other school. There's no guarantee that the best and brightest are at those top schools. They might just as easily be at some local college where they could live at home. And there might be a class A idiot at Harvard, barely getting by, probably paying some actual brilliant person to write their papers for them. The fact that someone went to Harvard really doesn't say much to me.

 

[Lilofan]

Well honestly, I don't think you get any better of an education at Harvard or Yale than at any other institution. They have the name and can charge exponentially higher sums for enrollment, but really, it's all hype. Look at the scams all the wealthy people have done to get their children into top schools like that. The amount of money that changes hands...those kids didn't earn their admittance by being intelligent, well-rounded students. They got in because their parents were willing to pay massive amounts of money to bribe officials. And yes, there are some legitimately intelligent people who go there, but there are just as many who go to other colleges. My ex-boyfriend was extremely intelligent. He got an overall score of 35 on his ACT. The only section he never got a perfect score on was Math, and he got a 35 on that. He went to the University of Wyoming, because he got a full ride scholarship there where he couldn't even get half that at an Ivy League school. My brother got a 33 on the ACT and I remember him being shocked when a recruiter called from Cornell. He got off the phone and just kept saying "I just turned down Cornell." He also got a full ride from UWyo. Going to an Ivy league school really doesn't mean much. It's full of people who only got in because they made large donations or bribed officials. There are some brilliant minds who teach at smaller schools. I think I recently read that Einstein went to "black" colleges to lecture because of the racism in some of the most prestigious schools. He didn't want to be a part of it. There are just as many doofuses at Harvard and Yale as there are anywhere else in the world.

One-year Harvard turned down several hundred kids who had a perfect 800 on the math section of the SAT.

 

[ajrwdwgirl]

Well honestly, I don't think you get any better of an education at Harvard or Yale than at any other institution. They have the name and can charge exponentially higher sums for enrollment, but really, it's all hype. Look at the scams all the wealthy people have done to get their children into top schools like that. The amount of money that changes hands...those kids didn't earn their admittance by being intelligent, well-rounded students. They got in because their parents were willing to pay massive amounts of money to bribe officials. And yes, there are some legitimately intelligent people who go there, but there are just as many who go to other colleges. My ex-boyfriend was extremely intelligent. He got an overall score of 35 on his ACT. The only section he never got a perfect score on was Math, and he got a 35 on that. He went to the University of Wyoming, because he got a full ride scholarship there where he couldn't even get half that at an Ivy League school. My brother got a 33 on the ACT and I remember him being shocked when a recruiter called from Cornell. He got off the phone and just kept saying "I just turned down Cornell." He also got a full ride from UWyo. Going to an Ivy league school really doesn't mean much. It's full of people who only got in because they made large donations or bribed officials. There are some brilliant minds who teach at smaller schools. I think I recently read that Einstein went to "black" colleges to lecture because of the racism in some of the most prestigious schools. He didn't want to be a part of it. There are just as many doofuses at Harvard and Yale as there are anywhere else in the world.

I agree that education is what you make of it. There are very intelligent people at State school and not so intelligent people at Ivy League school. That being said I live in rural Wisconsin and I have had students attend Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, and other prestigious schools. None of them had wealthy or influential parents, they got in on their own merits and received many scholarships. Getting scholarships can be very tough to get as well.

 

[Songbird76]

One-year Harvard turned down several hundred kids who had a perfect 800 on the math section of the SAT.

It doesn't surprise me, really. Did you ever watch Gilmore Girls? One of the main characters is applying for colleges, and they have a panel at their school from top schools talking about applications and the biggest mistakes kids make when applying to colleges, like circling every hobby because they think it shows them to be well-rounded, but no one is actually interested in everything. Or choosing an essay subject that they think makes them look good, rather than being original. And the grandmother reads some article about how college admissions get so many applications each year that they can't even go through them all, so they'll take a random stack and just deny everyone in that stack without even looking at them. I don't know how true it is, being TV, but it makes sense that getting hundreds of thousands of applications in a year, they certainly can't give much time to each one.

 

[Songbird76]

I agree that education is what you make of it. There are very intelligent people at State school and not so intelligent people at Ivy League school. That being said I live in rural Wisconsin and I have had students attend Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, and other prestigious schools. None of them had wealthy or influential parents, they got in on their own merits and received many scholarships. Getting scholarships can be very tough to get as well.

Oh I know there are some who get in on their own merrit, absolutely. But there are also many who don't. The point is that the fact that someone goes to one of those schools doesn't always mean they are one of the ones who got in on merrit, and that the fact that someone DIDN'T go do one of those schools doesn't mean they are less intelligent than someone who did. The prestige of schools isn't necessarily based on actual greatness. Just like buying an expensive brand like Gucci doesn't necessarily mean it's better than what I might buy at a local store...they have the reputation, but statistically, are they much better than other, less-known brands? I'm sure you can get a great education at one of those schools, but I feel like I got a great education where I went, too. It may not be as prestigious, but prestige won't make me better at my job.

 

[Lilofan]

It doesn't surprise me, really. Did you ever watch Gilmore Girls? One of the main characters is applying for colleges, and they have a panel at their school from top schools talking about applications and the biggest mistakes kids make when applying to colleges, like circling every hobby because they think it shows them to be well-rounded, but no one is actually interested in everything. Or choosing an essay subject that they think makes them look good, rather than being original. And the grandmother reads some article about how college admissions get so many applications each year that they can't even go through them all, so they'll take a random stack and just deny everyone in that stack without even looking at them. I don't know how true it is, being TV, but it makes sense that getting hundreds of thousands of applications in a year, they certainly can't give much time to each one.

I knew some who went to Harvard. They've got each incoming class broken down into groups for acceptance- student athletes ( no athletic scholarships in Ivy League ) but they have grant aid so they can attend , legacy kids and or parents who have attended Harvard, minorities , and other groups. There are kids who get shut out even though some have perfect 800 scores on the SAT. One kid my family knew was drafted in the NHL in high school , declined to turn pro, had average grades ,was from MA but at that time Harvard was a powerhouse in college hockey and was recruiting the best players to play for the Crimson. He went to Harvard for four years, didn't pay for his school in that Ivy League student athletes are given grant aid , was a star hockey player, then went onto have a long NHL career, retired then became the the Harvard hockey coach. His name is Ted Donato. One African American kid had a single mother working jobs just to pay rent. The kid went to Harvard on a full scholarship.

 

[Sans Souci]

What kind of adverse reaction to a vaccine is he expecting to happen that's worse than life-long complications from covid or death? It's way more likely that you end up with permanent lung damage from covid than it is that you'll have such a severe reaction to the vaccine if you've never had a reaction to a vaccine before. He's had other vaccines, right? It's just so frustrating, and I'm not even his parent. You must be ready to pull your hair out dealing with it every day!!

I saw in the news today that a couple of people who were anti-vaccine died of covid, and one guy is in the hospital and begging people to get vaccinated now. And someone's wife...the guy apparently wanted the vaccine, but couldn't get it yet and he died of covid and his wife did an interview and said she just didn't understand because they would have given anything to get that vaccine, and now her husband is dead because he COULDN'T get it, while there are people who have the access he couldn't get and they refuse to get it. It's heartbreaking. I feel bad for the families of people who died because they refused to get vaccinated, but I don't know how that doesn't change people's minds. How can you see someone who told you it was no big deal, it was a hoax, die from it, and not go "Oops...guess he was wrong. Maybe I should get vaccinated." ? I guess one guy who died actually said he was glad he got it so he could show people it was no big deal...he downplayed it right up until he died. How does that not send the message that he was wrong?

I don't even know what he is worried about. It's just a general anxiety. I think a big part of the issue is he is 19 and he thinks his youth will protect him. I am honestly so frustrated and worried about him. I am just very angry with all of these peddlers of misinformation. I think you need to be sociopath to intentionally spread information that can kill people.

 

[Sans Souci]

Well honestly, I don't think you get any better of an education at Harvard or Yale than at any other institution. They have the name and can charge exponentially higher sums for enrollment, but really, it's all hype. Look at the scams all the wealthy people have done to get their children into top schools like that. The amount of money that changes hands...those kids didn't earn their admittance by being intelligent, well-rounded students. They got in because their parents were willing to pay massive amounts of money to bribe officials. And yes, there are some legitimately intelligent people who go there, but there are just as many who go to other colleges. My ex-boyfriend was extremely intelligent. He got an overall score of 35 on his ACT. The only section he never got a perfect score on was Math, and he got a 35 on that. He went to the University of Wyoming, because he got a full ride scholarship there where he couldn't even get half that at an Ivy League school. My brother got a 33 on the ACT and I remember him being shocked when a recruiter called from Cornell. He got off the phone and just kept saying "I just turned down Cornell." He also got a full ride from UWyo. Going to an Ivy league school really doesn't mean much. It's full of people who only got in because they made large donations or bribed officials. There are some brilliant minds who teach at smaller schools. I think I recently read that Einstein went to "black" colleges to lecture because of the racism in some of the most prestigious schools. He didn't want to be a part of it. There are just as many doofuses at Harvard and Yale as there are anywhere else in the world.

I think Ivy League schools are good for grad school if you want to go into a specific area of research and you want to study there because a professor or the department itself is doing cutting edge research in that area. But I am not sure I would go as an undergrad without a significant scholarship.

When my husband worked in the private sector, he managed one person who went to Chicago Booth and another who went to Harvard business school. He said the Booth guy needed to be praised for his work all the time and the Harvard guy could crank out all this data at lightning speed, but struggled to tell you what it meant. It sounds like he could have been replaced by a computer. lol

 

[Sans Souci]

Good morning

I did a YouTube video this AM. It was a lower body work that was a little bit of cardio and some ballet and floor work with gliding discs. I am going to revisit my strength training program when winter rolls around and pair it with Couch to 10K.

Yesterday, my husband told me there was a wasp nest in the ground in our backyard near the house. He went out to buy some spray. I went out to look and they were little sweat bees. When he returned, my son and I convinced him not to spray them, because they are pollinators and non-aggressive. They need sodium to survive and they will lick the sweat from your body. If you want them to leave you alone, you can place bowls of salt water near their nest. They do sting, though. He was going to spray them last night and my son talked him out of it. I think he is worried about getting stung while doing yard work.

 

[Sans Souci]

@Sans Souci I have barely seen the lantern flies all year at Hershey. I saw a couple of nymphs and that's been it.

They have all the sudden descended this week. I mean, EVERYWHERE. And the gross part is that Hershey sprays for them, so most of them are dead. Like in bunches. Or they're smashed along the paths from guests (rightfully) killing them.

Our bedroom has a balcony and we had quite a few on them yesterday. My husband went out with a rolled up magazine and killed them. Not 10 minutes later, more appeared. This time last year, I only saw one while I was out walking. It was so unusual looking, I took a photo of it and looked it up when I got home. That's when I learned about this pest. Now I go out and I see so many adults and nymphs. My husband stomps on them when we go out walking and I see lots that have already been stomped. It is crazy how many lantern flies have emerged after one year. People put adhesive strips around the trunks of their trees to prevent them from climbing up and laying eggs. Half of my yard has trees that border and one side of my house is bordered by a wooded lot.

I don't know if they are in your area yet. But make sure you check your car for them before you leave Hershey Park. They can't fly very far and they rely on us to bring them to new areas. My county is quarantined, which means I am supposed to check my car for them before I go somewhere that isn't infested yet.