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Sans Souci

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Well it's good to hear you aren't withholding affection from him....that backfires majorly. But you're right, no one NEEDS the treats. Why did he go to the doctor about the depression? It sounds like he never intended to actually get help for it. I know there's kind of a stigma attached to getting therapy, so many people don't get help when they need it, but usually people won't even go to the doctor then because they don't want to be told they should see a therapist.

There's a lot of backlash against vaccines here, too, though I think most people have gotten it. It's a small group who is advocating against it, but they are very vocal. One of the women in my choir is against it, but she didn't try to talk anyone else out of getting it...just that SHE doesn't want to. But I saw on the news today that someone in the US who I guess was really vocal against the vaccines died of covid yesterday or the day before maybe? On the one hand it's sad, but on the other, it was completely his own decision to ignore medical advice. You can tell people it's not safe to play in the street, but if they choose to do it anyway, it's hard to feel bad for them when something bad happens to them that could have been prevented. But I do feel sorry for loved ones....I think it's hard on them, especially if they disagreed with the person who died. There's not only the grief from losing their loved one, but also the feeling of guilt that they couldn't persuade them. It's a double loss because they know it didn't have to happen the way it did, but they wonder what they could have done to prevent it. I think in most cases, there's nothing you can do...if you push too hard, it only makes them dig their heels in even farther.

If your son does get it, it won't be anything you did or didn't do. You've done your best. You've given him access to information, you've talked to him about it, you've given him every opportunity to be safe, including inconveniencing yourselves. Would he even be allowed in the nursing home to visit grandma if he hasn't been vaccinated? I know a lot of places here are requiring proof of vaccination or negative tests. I would think about how I would feel if he inadvertently brought covid to her, whether she got sick or not....could you live with that? If not, then I'd leave him home. But do you even have concrete plans for when to go?

No, I would never do that to him or anyone else. My mother used to give me silent treatments as a young child and I have never forgotten that awful feeling of feeling like you don't exist.

He went to the doctor because he was lying in bed all day, his affect was very flat and he was not showering like he used to. He told my husband he felt depressed and so he suggested contacting his doctor to see what could be done. I knew going in what his options were going to be, but I was hoping his doctor would have a referral that was appropriate for someone on the spectrum.

I get the anger here towards to the unvaccinated, I do. It's looking like mask mandates might return because they are not following the honor system of wearing a mask if you're not vaccinated. But this stuff like, "Let them die. They deserve it." is BS. I am trying my level best to get my son vaccinated while also trying not to alienate him. I don't think he deserves to get seriously ill or die. He has been taken in by this "We don't know the long term effects of the vaccines yet." He doesn't think it's going to change his DNA or anything ridiculous like that. But these "wait and see" people never can tell you how long data should be collected until they feel safe. I am seriously ed off with the people who knowingly spread these lies, just to stir discord and helped them proliferate.

We do have concrete plans to go see my gram, we're going in a few weeks. I really don't want him to go. I was uneasy a few weeks ago when we tried to fly out, but since then, delta has taken hold. I don't feel the same. I don't want him to be responsible for bringing delta into a nursing home and causing deaths. We were told he could visit, but he would have to wear a mask (so would my husband and me, since we live with him) and he needs to stay 6 ft away from everyone. Now, we haven't seen my grandmother since Nov. 2019 and I know she is going to want to hug my son regardless of rules. She is going to think one hug won't hurt.
 

Sans Souci

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Today was an active recovery day, so I did 30 minutes of yoga. I got out for some fresh air, as fresh as humid air can feel.

I looked at tomorrow's workout. It's called "Burpee Bonanza." 😒 I hope it goes by quickly.

I am making baked falafel with tahini sauce and roasted veggies for dinner tonight. :hungry:
 

Sans Souci

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I've got "Burpee Bonanza" done and dusted. It was brutal. I was dripping in sweat and at times. I felt like I was in this endless time loop where I was doing burpee after burpee and time never progressed. I hated it. BUT, it's over now and it never appears in this program again. Which is a relief, because really and truly sucked.😵

I've been seeing lots of lantern fly nymphs in my back yard. They are an invasive bug from Asia that is detrimental to trees. One of the reasons I fell in love with this house when I first saw it were all of the trees in my yard. We're supposed to kill them if we see them. I have some issues with that. 1. The nymphs move quickly and the adults are huge--like cicadas. I don't want to step on something so big. The thought of it makes me feel nauseous.
 

Sans Souci

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I am checking in with a triceps & chest workout. I need to step up my push up game. I can do six before I hit failure. This woman cranks them out like they are nothing. Push ups have always been the one exercise that always challenges me.
 

Songbird76

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No, I would never do that to him or anyone else. My mother used to give me silent treatments as a young child and I have never forgotten that awful feeling of feeling like you don't exist.

He went to the doctor because he was lying in bed all day, his affect was very flat and he was not showering like he used to. He told my husband he felt depressed and so he suggested contacting his doctor to see what could be done. I knew going in what his options were going to be, but I was hoping his doctor would have a referral that was appropriate for someone on the spectrum.

I get the anger here towards to the unvaccinated, I do. It's looking like mask mandates might return because they are not following the honor system of wearing a mask if you're not vaccinated. But this stuff like, "Let them die. They deserve it." is BS. I am trying my level best to get my son vaccinated while also trying not to alienate him. I don't think he deserves to get seriously ill or die. He has been taken in by this "We don't know the long term effects of the vaccines yet." He doesn't think it's going to change his DNA or anything ridiculous like that. But these "wait and see" people never can tell you how long data should be collected until they feel safe. I am seriously ****ed off with the people who knowingly spread these lies, just to stir discord and helped them proliferate.

We do have concrete plans to go see my gram, we're going in a few weeks. I really don't want him to go. I was uneasy a few weeks ago when we tried to fly out, but since then, delta has taken hold. I don't feel the same. I don't want him to be responsible for bringing delta into a nursing home and causing deaths. We were told he could visit, but he would have to wear a mask (so would my husband and me, since we live with him) and he needs to stay 6 ft away from everyone. Now, we haven't seen my grandmother since Nov. 2019 and I know she is going to want to hug my son regardless of rules. She is going to think one hug won't hurt.
I don't think I'd go so far as to say they deserve it, but it would be hard for me to feel sympathy for them if they got sick. I feel worse for those around them than I do for the person themselves because they did have a choice. Actions have consequences. I only hope they learn from it.
Can you prevent your son from going to see grandma? Would that give him the incentive to get the vaccine if you told him he can't go with you if he doesn't get it?
 

Sans Souci

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I don't think I'd go so far as to say they deserve it, but it would be hard for me to feel sympathy for them if they got sick. I feel worse for those around them than I do for the person themselves because they did have a choice. Actions have consequences. I only hope they learn from it.
Can you prevent your son from going to see grandma? Would that give him the incentive to get the vaccine if you told him he can't go with you if he doesn't get it?

I understand. I just wish people would remember that a lot of anti-vaxers have friends and family who are in the background trying to change hearts and minds. I'm not giving up.

Yes, we're going to go without him if he doesn't get a jab. Right now, the only jab he can get and be fully protected in time is J&J/Janssen. That window is closing quickly, though. I know my grandmother will be upset, because I know she wants to see him the most. But I refuse to enable a covid outbreak in a nursing home.

In addition to my husband and me, my mother, my MIL and my grandmother are all working on him. :)
 

StarWarsGirl

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I've been seeing lots of lantern fly nymphs in my back yard. They are an invasive bug from Asia that is detrimental to trees. One of the reasons I fell in love with this house when I first saw it were all of the trees in my yard. We're supposed to kill them if we see them. I have some issues with that. 1. The nymphs move quickly and the adults are huge--like cicadas. I don't want to step on something so big. The thought of it makes me feel nauseous.
Oh no, I've seen those. Hershey has them. Last year was particularly bad. I don't even want to think about how many of those things I killed. We have stink bugs down here which are even worse; I have no problem killing the latern flies compared to stink bugs.
 

Sans Souci

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Oh no, I've seen those. Hershey has them. Last year was particularly bad. I don't even want to think about how many of those things I killed. We have stink bugs down here which are even worse; I have no problem killing the latern flies compared to stink bugs.

Oh, I have had a run in with a stink bug in my bed. I went to bed and I felt something on my ankle. It was summer and sometimes I feel itchy and I just went back to sleep. Some time later, I awoke to a sensation of something crawling on my thigh. I go to sweep off whatever it was, and I was kind of expecting to be nothing. I felt something crawl onto my hand and I whipped my hand from underneath my blanket and "threw" the bug across the room. I just moved here and hadn't had a stink bug encounter yet. Then I smelled something weird and I thought it was electrical. Then my hand started burning a little bit and I realized this little butthead sprayed me. I spent so much time scrubbing my hand and it took forever to get rid of the smell from mind. I kept asking my husband if could still smell it, but he said no. It was like a phantom odor.

They come crawling in my house in the fall and crawling out in the spring. I have a dedicated Tupperware container. When I see one, I cover it and slide some card stock underneath it. Then I give it a water burial into the Delaware River.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
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Oh, I have had a run in with a stink bug in my bed. I went to bed and I felt something on my ankle. It was summer and sometimes I feel itchy and I just went back to sleep. Some time later, I awoke to a sensation of something crawling on my thigh. I go to sweep off whatever it was, and I was kind of expecting to be nothing. I felt something crawl onto my hand and I whipped my hand from underneath my blanket and "threw" the bug across the room. I just moved here and hadn't had a stink bug encounter yet. Then I smelled something weird and I thought it was electrical. Then my hand started burning a little bit and I realized this little butthead sprayed me. I spent so much time scrubbing my hand and it took forever to get rid of the smell from mind. I kept asking my husband if could still smell it, but he said no. It was like a phantom odor.

They come crawling in my house in the fall and crawling out in the spring. I have a dedicated Tupperware container. When I see one, I cover it and slide some card stock underneath it. Then I give it a water burial into the Delaware River.
I just flush them down the toilet. The annoying thing is that my cats will chase and kill every other bug, but the stink bugs? Nope.

I found a beetle the other day that was still alive but that one of them had tortured.
 

Sans Souci

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I just flush them down the toilet. The annoying thing is that my cats will chase and kill every other bug, but the stink bugs? Nope.

I found a beetle the other day that was still alive but that one of them had tortured.

I do that, too. I read that it is a "waste of water" and you should collect them, stick them in the freezer and then throw them out. No, thanks. I'm not keeping a collection of stink bugs adjacent to my food.

There are a bazillion spiders in my house and we have an unspoken agreement leave each other alone. I live next to some woods and I get all sorts stuff in my house. They won't even touch these little jerks. I bet they taste bad to them.
 

Sans Souci

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Checking in with a lower body workout. I am hoping I won't be sore tomorrow, since I've done a few lower body workouts and now my muscles are used to it.

We're under a tornado watch until 9PM. I am hoping it doesn't turn into warning.

I am making kimchi fried rice for dinner tonight. :hungry:
 

Sans Souci

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Good morning ☀️

I did a biceps and back strength training workout this morning. I'm just a little sore from yesterday. I can only notice it when I sit down, but it's slight. It's not like last week when I was waddling around. When I had to sit, I would just back up to a chair a drop down onto it. I was sore for 4 days. :hilarious:

My husband talked to our son last night, in light of the CDC data/recommendations. He told him he will not be going to Chicago with us unless he is 100% vaccinated. He told him if he wanted one of the mRNA shots, we would rebook our flights so he can see my grandma when he is fully vaccinated. His friends are all anti-vax, too. They were making fun of someone behind his back because he got vaccinated. It's freaking pathetic. I told him he doesn't have to tell any of them that he got vaccinated. Now that the CDC is saying this is spreads as easily as chicken pox and that the unvaccinated can carry a lot of virus, I am really worried about him. I am hoping he is starting to see the light. 🙏
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
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Good morning ☀️

I did a biceps and back strength training workout this morning. I'm just a little sore from yesterday. I can only notice it when I sit down, but it's slight. It's not like last week when I was waddling around. When I had to sit, I would just back up to a chair a drop down onto it. I was sore for 4 days. :hilarious:

My husband talked to our son last night, in light of the CDC data/recommendations. He told him he will not be going to Chicago with us unless he is 100% vaccinated. He told him if he wanted one of the mRNA shots, we would rebook our flights so he can see my grandma when he is fully vaccinated. His friends are all anti-vax, too. They were making fun of someone behind his back because he got vaccinated. It's freaking pathetic. I told him he doesn't have to tell any of them that he got vaccinated. Now that the CDC is saying this is spreads as easily as chicken pox and that the unvaccinated can carry a lot of virus, I am really worried about him. I am hoping he is starting to see the light. 🙏
Is he at least wearing a mask wherever he goes?

People like this frustrate me because in order for me to get a vaccine, I'd have to go to a hospital (which is itself impossible) wait three hours after the shot to make sure I don't have an allergic reaction, then assuming I don't have a reaction, wash, rinse, repeat. All he has to do is walk into a Walgreens and he's done. The Orioles are even doing it at the games with J&J. They'll give you two free tickets for it.

(My dad jokingly asked if I wanted to risk it. I was like haha, no thank you. Once at Johns Hopkins ER is plenty for me for a lifetime).
 

Sans Souci

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Is he at least wearing a mask wherever he goes?

People like this frustrate me because in order for me to get a vaccine, I'd have to go to a hospital (which is itself impossible) wait three hours after the shot to make sure I don't have an allergic reaction, then assuming I don't have a reaction, wash, rinse, repeat. All he has to do is walk into a Walgreens and he's done. The Orioles are even doing it at the games with J&J. They'll give you two free tickets for it.

(My dad jokingly asked if I wanted to risk it. I was like haha, no thank you. Once at Johns Hopkins ER is plenty for me for a lifetime).

Believe me, as much as it frustrates you, it frustrates me even more! I am very worried about him and like you said, he could walk in virtually anywhere and get a jab.

The mask is one thing he is adherent about. When he goes out, he always has his mask on and keeps it on. We tried to go to Chicago at the beginning of the month and he kept the mask on the whole time at the airport, which was about 5 hours. He ordered some milk while we were at the airport and just lifted it up the lower portion over his mouth to drink it quickly through a straw. He is a homebody and when he does go out, he scrubs his hands as soon as he enters the house. So he's good on that front.

I am in this bind where I realize I can make him sick. My husband and I are supposed to go to WDW next month and we're worried about bringing it back to him. I would feel awful if I gave this to him and he ended up in a poor state. But I can't stop living my life because he is woefully misinformed.

Today is his last chance to get vaccinated if he wants to visit my grandmother. It would have to be J&J. He said no, so my husband and I informed him he will be staying home. I told him this may be his last chance to see her, since she is 87 and has a neurodegenerative disease. He still said no.
 

MinnieM123

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Believe me, as much as it frustrates you, it frustrates me even more! I am very worried about him and like you said, he could walk in virtually anywhere and get a jab.

The mask is one thing he is adherent about. When he goes out, he always has his mask on and keeps it on. We tried to go to Chicago at the beginning of the month and he kept the mask on the whole time at the airport, which was about 5 hours. He ordered some milk while we were at the airport and just lifted it up the lower portion over his mouth to drink it quickly through a straw. He is a homebody and when he does go out, he scrubs his hands as soon as he enters the house. So he's good on that front.

I am in this bind where I realize I can make him sick. My husband and I are supposed to go to WDW next month and we're worried about bringing it back to him. I would feel awful if I gave this to him and he ended up in a poor state. But I can't stop living my life because he is woefully misinformed.

Today is his last chance to get vaccinated if he wants to visit my grandmother. It would have to be J&J. He said no, so my husband and I informed him he will be staying home. I told him this may be his last chance to see her, since she is 87 and has a neurodegenerative disease. He still said no.
Heart goes out to you. That said, if he chooses to not go see his grandma, that will probably come back to haunt him down the road. There's nothing you can do about that. As for you and hubs going to WDW -- GO, and ENJOY. Use the usual, basic safety precautions, and live your life. Your son has been given every opportunity to get vaccinated, so it's on him.
 

Songbird76

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I understand. I just wish people would remember that a lot of anti-vaxers have friends and family who are in the background trying to change hearts and minds. I'm not giving up.

Yes, we're going to go without him if he doesn't get a jab. Right now, the only jab he can get and be fully protected in time is J&J/Janssen. That window is closing quickly, though. I know my grandmother will be upset, because I know she wants to see him the most. But I refuse to enable a covid outbreak in a nursing home.

In addition to my husband and me, my mother, my MIL and my grandmother are all working on him. :)
I hope you all can convince him. Maybe grandma has the most chance of convincing him to get it since she misses him and really wants to see him and I'm sure he wants to see her, too. But I think it's the responsible thing to do, keeping him away from vulnerable people if he isn't protected himself. I hope he'll realize it in time!
 

Sans Souci

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Heart goes out to you. That said, if he chooses to not go see his grandma, that will probably come back to haunt him down the road. There's nothing you can do about that. As for you and hubs going to WDW -- GO, and ENJOY. Use the usual, basic safety precautions, and live your life. Your son has been given every opportunity to get vaccinated, so it's on him.

Thanks. Unless things get worse in C. Florida, we're going. IF we stayed home, it would be because the situation is completely out of control there. I'm just so frustrated with my son right now. He is smarter than this. My husband and I were never anti-vaxers and we always made sure he was up to date with his immunizations. I had no idea he would fall prey to this idiocy.
 

Sans Souci

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I hope you all can convince him. Maybe grandma has the most chance of convincing him to get it since she misses him and really wants to see him and I'm sure he wants to see her, too. But I think it's the responsible thing to do, keeping him away from vulnerable people if he isn't protected himself. I hope he'll realize it in time!

I hope so. She's been working on him. I had been working on him for a few months now, but I wasn't too worried because he's a homebody and we live in an area with high uptake. I thought I had more time to get him to see the light. Then delta threw a wrench in the works and I feel like I am running out of time.

My husband told him that this may be the last trip to see her and he is not budging.
 

Sans Souci

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I am in with a full body calisthenics work out. I went for a walk, too, since it was much cooler today.

I made a proper "Sunday dinner" with turkey, mashed potatoes and roasted veggies. I was in a cooking rut, so even though it's "out of season," it was nice to have the three of us eating together for a change. My son typically does his own thing at dinner. He eats at 8-8:30, That's a little too late for me. :hilarious:
 

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