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Songbird76

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I went for a really pleasant walk this morning. It was much cooler and not quite as humid. I haven't done my yoga yet. I am doing a program called "30 for 30" and today's class looks like it would be best to do before bed. It looks like a relaxed class.

Is it me or is $40 expensive for pj's from Old Navy? It is a tank top/shorts set, not long pajamas. Actually it is $38 before shipping and taxes. If it was a proper department store, I probably wouldn't think it was so odd--but, it's Old Navy. They're kind of on the border of "fast fashion" for me.
I couldn't tell you. I've never shopped at Old Navy because all their stuff was so small. They never had bigger sizes that I could find....it was all for really skinny-minis, which I have never been. I went to an outlet once when I was in college and couldn't find a thing over about a size 14, so I just turned around and walked out.
 

Sans Souci

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Oh Lord, I remember being that age, like six years ago. There's a lot of growing up that happens between 20 and 26. At that age it's like, "I'm not doing it and you can't make me." Whereas some of the time now I'm like, "Please tell me what to do; I know absolutely nothing." 😂

I'm in the percentage of people who isn't vaccinated (I'm not an anti vaxer; I had an anaphylactic reaction to a vaccine when I was 18 and I'd have to get the shot at a hospital, which is next to impossible oddly enough). My parents just wear their masks everywhere, as do I. The bonus is that they also reduce their chances of getting covid even though they've been vaccinated. We've been to WDW four times since the pandemic started without issue.
When do you think you will be able to go in for your vaccine? That must be so frustrating for you. Can your physician been able to help get you on someone's list or anything like that?

He is so stubborn. I have offered him cash. He tells me he doesn't feel either vaccine technology is safe and if he got sick, it wouldn't be a big deal. Statistically speaking, I know he is correct. But it's all a roll of the die. You can survive this and still have your life drastically altered. It's not a binary proposition. I feel like people who trot out the survival rate ignore this.

For the past week, I have gone without my mask. The positivity rate is still low in my county. But I am sure it's a matter of time before that changes. When we go to WDW, we will be wearing our masks--just because it looks a little messy down there right now. I just don't want anyone starting with me for wearing it. My ability to suffer fools gladly has been greatly reduced. :hilarious:
 

Sans Souci

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E felt pretty miserable yesterday. We did absolutely nothing but sit on the couch and watch netflix. We watched the first three Twilight movies, Pride and Prejudice, and some Big Bang Theory. I watched the first episode of Season 4 Atypical while she fell asleep. That was our day.

Blah. This was her first shot, right? There's been anecdotal evidence that people who had reactions with their first might have been sick with covid. I wonder if that is her case? Hopefully her second jab will be a breeze.
 

Sans Souci

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I couldn't tell you. I've never shopped at Old Navy because all their stuff was so small. They never had bigger sizes that I could find....it was all for really skinny-minis, which I have never been. I went to an outlet once when I was in college and couldn't find a thing over about a size 14, so I just turned around and walked out.

They are much better about sizes now. They've expanded their range of sizes and they even carry gender neutral clothes now. I mostly buy my workout clothes there, but I buy jeans and sweaters there now and again.
 

Sans Souci

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I strung together 3 YouTube videos today. They were cardio and ab-based.

I bought one of those double walled vacuum whatever water bottles that keep your water cold for up to 24 hours. I also purchased a bunch of vinyl Golden Girls stickers to decorate said water bottle.

Some of these stickers are so salty and savage. There is one with Betty White giving the middle finger. (I don't remember THAT episode.) There is one with Blanche saying "Eat dirt and die, trash" and much more. They are on the small side and the bottle is 40 oz, so it's a large bottle. Maybe it won't be do obvious. 😂 :hilarious:
 

StarWarsGirl

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When do you think you will be able to go in for your vaccine? That must be so frustrating for you. Can your physician been able to help get you on someone's list or anything like that?

He is so stubborn. I have offered him cash. He tells me he doesn't feel either vaccine technology is safe and if he got sick, it wouldn't be a big deal. Statistically speaking, I know he is correct. But it's all a roll of the die. You can survive this and still have your life drastically altered. It's not a binary proposition. I feel like people who trot out the survival rate ignore this.

For the past week, I have gone without my mask. The positivity rate is still low in my county. But I am sure it's a matter of time before that changes. When we go to WDW, we will be wearing our masks--just because it looks a little messy down there right now. I just don't want anyone starting with me for wearing it. My ability to suffer fools gladly has been greatly reduced. :hilarious:
I didn't have anyone staring at me in WDW in July when I was wearing it. There were still a good amount of guests and CMs wearing masks. You're also still requires to wear it on transportation.

There's the other issue: my primary care doctor died last month. He had a heart attack. So right now, I have no primary care doctor. My doctor's office is supposed to hire a new doctor and then reassign all of his patients to that new doctor, though I'm going to request one of the other doctors in the practice who's better with asthma. It's hard to find primary care doctors who are good with asthma. My allergist's group is independent from the hospitals.

So basically, there's a bunch of hospitals around here, but they're all with different groups. GBMC is the primary hospital I use, and they've only had Johnson and Johnson, which is the one my allergist said not to get. Then there's the University of Maryland medical system. I went on their wait list initially, but then I found out that they don't tell you which shot they're giving you until you get there. Hopkins has a couple of campuses; the one that's in the relatively safe area of the city only has Pfizer and J&J; my doctor said only get Moderna. So right now I'm on a wait-list with Medstar, which has a couple of affiliated hospitals. When I initially tried to go through them, they only had Pfizer. So now I'm on their wait-list. We'll see what happens. My hope is that eventually my allergist will be able to get them in his office and skin test me, which is what he would do if I had to have any other vaccine. Other than flu shots, I haven't had a vaccine since 2013.
 

Sans Souci

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I didn't have anyone staring at me in WDW in July when I was wearing it. There were still a good amount of guests and CMs wearing masks. You're also still requires to wear it on transportation.

There's the other issue: my primary care doctor died last month. He had a heart attack. So right now, I have no primary care doctor. My doctor's office is supposed to hire a new doctor and then reassign all of his patients to that new doctor, though I'm going to request one of the other doctors in the practice who's better with asthma. It's hard to find primary care doctors who are good with asthma. My allergist's group is independent from the hospitals.

So basically, there's a bunch of hospitals around here, but they're all with different groups. GBMC is the primary hospital I use, and they've only had Johnson and Johnson, which is the one my allergist said not to get. Then there's the University of Maryland medical system. I went on their wait list initially, but then I found out that they don't tell you which shot they're giving you until you get there. Hopkins has a couple of campuses; the one that's in the relatively safe area of the city only has Pfizer and J&J; my doctor said only get Moderna. So right now I'm on a wait-list with Medstar, which has a couple of affiliated hospitals. When I initially tried to go through them, they only had Pfizer. So now I'm on their wait-list. We'll see what happens. My hope is that eventually my allergist will be able to get them in his office and skin test me, which is what he would do if I had to have any other vaccine. Other than flu shots, I haven't had a vaccine since 2013.

Wow, that's awful about your doc passing away so suddenly.

What a mess with the vaccines. I hope a Moderna appointment pops up for you soon. I am surprised your allergist hasn't gotten any Moderna yet. The way the media goes on about the vaccines going to waste, you'd think it would be easier to get what you needed in short order.

I was worried about wearing a mask at WDW, because someone in the one of the corona threads in News and Rumors said some people were taunting his family while in a line for ride. That's kind of stuff I'm a bit worried about. I just want to go away for a bit, go on some fun rides, eat some tasty food and chill poolside at my hotel. I don't want drama or craziness. I think we've all had our life time quota for those things from the past 18 months.
 

Sans Souci

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I did a strength training workout today. I found this free 10 week program on YouTube. I may or may not complete it. It was a lower body workout and I went light with the weights, hoping to be able to sit down tomorrow. I am not sure I will be able to sit down tomorrow. My legs don't hurt, but they feel shaky. That's a sign that the soreness is coming. I did go for a walk, hoping to move the lactic acid out of my legs. Maybe that will help a bit. I'll give this program a few days and I see how I feel. I am worried about my thighs chonking up and getting ravenous. :p Yoga makes me more mindful of my hunger and doesn't make me hungry, but I just felt like doing something different and sweaty.
 

StarWarsGirl

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Wow, that's awful about your doc passing away so suddenly.

What a mess with the vaccines. I hope a Moderna appointment pops up for you soon. I am surprised your allergist hasn't gotten any Moderna yet. The way the media goes on about the vaccines going to waste, you'd think it would be easier to get what you needed in short order.

I was worried about wearing a mask at WDW, because someone in the one of the corona threads in News and Rumors said some people were taunting his family while in a line for ride. That's kind of stuff I'm a bit worried about. I just want to go away for a bit, go on some fun rides, eat some tasty food and chill poolside at my hotel. I don't want drama or craziness. I think we've all had our life time quota for those things from the past 18 months.
I didn't have that happen with anyone taunting. For the most part people in July never gave me a second glance. There were still some people wearing masks. Though if I did I think I'd just pull out my phone and start recording if someone gave me a hard time. I would still wear my mask even if I were vaccinated because apparently, they're not as effective for people with asthma.

Yeah, the media acts like they're so easy to get now which is true...if you have no underlying conditions and can just walk into a pharmacy to get one. If you have to get vaccinated and be monitored, it's not simple at all.
 

Songbird76

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When do you think you will be able to go in for your vaccine? That must be so frustrating for you. Can your physician been able to help get you on someone's list or anything like that?

He is so stubborn. I have offered him cash. He tells me he doesn't feel either vaccine technology is safe and if he got sick, it wouldn't be a big deal. Statistically speaking, I know he is correct. But it's all a roll of the die. You can survive this and still have your life drastically altered. It's not a binary proposition. I feel like people who trot out the survival rate ignore this.

For the past week, I have gone without my mask. The positivity rate is still low in my county. But I am sure it's a matter of time before that changes. When we go to WDW, we will be wearing our masks--just because it looks a little messy down there right now. I just don't want anyone starting with me for wearing it. My ability to suffer fools gladly has been greatly reduced. :hilarious:
Ugh, that argument that statistically, they won't get so sick drives me nuts. It's such a selfish view, because yeah, statistically, maybe YOU won't, but what about the people you infected before you knew you had it? If you give it to a grandparent, or an older neighbor, or a friend with some sort of health condition (my BIL had a kidney transplant, and has athsma, diabetis, and is morbidly obese...he's extremely high risk) they could die from it. Just because YOU should be fine doesn't mean it's ok to take risks with other people's health! I have the same thing with smoking....I HATE it that people are allowed to just walk down the street blowing cigarette smoke in my face. It's so selfish to not consider anyone else's health and well-being.

And apart from that, they are saying that many people have complications from Covid19, even from cases which didn't require hospitalization, that can last for months or even be permanent. Issues with lungs, in particular. It's not something where you feel icky for a few days and then it's over. Statistically, the likelyhood that you will have a severe reaction to the vaccine is WAY smaller than the likelyhood of complications from Covid, from what I understand. Very few people have severe reactions to the vaccine...but 600,000 have died, just in the US, from covid. Statistically, that's way more serious than reactions from the vaccine. So really, that's a pretty flimsy excuse....it ignores all the statistics and all the logic. Can you maybe show your son some actual statistics? It sounds like he's basing his decision on incomplete data. Like, he's heard that the vaccine can cause serious reactions, but doesn't know how much WORSE Covid19 is. I mean, statistically, I could get hit by a bus while I'm crossing a street....it's not likely, but it could happen. But that doesn't mean it's safer to drive everywhere. More car accidents happen than people getting hit by buses, but if you only look at the statistic for accidents where a bus hit a pedestrian, then sure, that looks bad. I don't want to get hit by a bus, but the possibility that I die in a car accident is much greater than that I get hit by a bus. You have to look at ALL the statistics and figure out which things are a more serious threat, what's likely, etc.
 

Songbird76

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Blah. This was her first shot, right? There's been anecdotal evidence that people who had reactions with their first might have been sick with covid. I wonder if that is her case? Hopefully her second jab will be a breeze.
I don't think she's had it. Part of the protocol for schools opening was that kids were supposed to get self-tests twice a week. The tests were supplied by the government and she took a test every Sunday and Wednesday and they were all negative. I would expect that if she had had it, at least ONE of those tests would have come out positive. I read that younger people have stronger immune systems, so the response to the vaccine will be a little stronger in younger people than in the elderly at least. I had the one day about a week after my second shot where I was weak and felt exhausted....That's pretty much what she had, but just the day after the first shot. Now she's fine. I think it was just the standard reaction from the body responding to the threat of infection.
 

Sans Souci

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Ugh, that argument that statistically, they won't get so sick drives me nuts. It's such a selfish view, because yeah, statistically, maybe YOU won't, but what about the people you infected before you knew you had it? If you give it to a grandparent, or an older neighbor, or a friend with some sort of health condition (my BIL had a kidney transplant, and has athsma, diabetis, and is morbidly obese...he's extremely high risk) they could die from it. Just because YOU should be fine doesn't mean it's ok to take risks with other people's health! I have the same thing with smoking....I HATE it that people are allowed to just walk down the street blowing cigarette smoke in my face. It's so selfish to not consider anyone else's health and well-being.

And apart from that, they are saying that many people have complications from Covid19, even from cases which didn't require hospitalization, that can last for months or even be permanent. Issues with lungs, in particular. It's not something where you feel icky for a few days and then it's over. Statistically, the likelyhood that you will have a severe reaction to the vaccine is WAY smaller than the likelyhood of complications from Covid, from what I understand. Very few people have severe reactions to the vaccine...but 600,000 have died, just in the US, from covid. Statistically, that's way more serious than reactions from the vaccine. So really, that's a pretty flimsy excuse....it ignores all the statistics and all the logic. Can you maybe show your son some actual statistics? It sounds like he's basing his decision on incomplete data. Like, he's heard that the vaccine can cause serious reactions, but doesn't know how much WORSE Covid19 is. I mean, statistically, I could get hit by a bus while I'm crossing a street....it's not likely, but it could happen. But that doesn't mean it's safer to drive everywhere. More car accidents happen than people getting hit by buses, but if you only look at the statistic for accidents where a bus hit a pedestrian, then sure, that looks bad. I don't want to get hit by a bus, but the possibility that I die in a car accident is much greater than that I get hit by a bus. You have to look at ALL the statistics and figure out which things are a more serious threat, what's likely, etc.

It's ridiculous. My husband and I have been chatting with him everyday and he is digging in. I'm exasperated. He doesn't trust any stats or data from the government. I don't know how he got this way. The biggest thing he has going in favor is that he is a homebody. He keeps to himself and he will go to the grocery stores 1-2/month. But at the same time, my husband and I are going out and living our lives. I am not being kept hostage by him. I've stopped buying him things he likes from the stores, like organic fruit. I stopped baking treats for him. My husband said he's working on him, but he is far more optimistic than I am.
 

Sans Souci

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I have been so sore since my Wed. workout. My butt and hamstrings are so sore. Yesterday was shoulders and today was another lower body workout, that I winced my way though. I am hoping for no soreness tomorrow. I'm waddling around everywhere and when I need to sit down, I just back up as close I can to my couch and flop onto it. 😂

I like that this 10 week program has different videos for each day--there are no repeats. It's not the same 5 videos over and over. She also doesn't talk. There are text prompts on the screen to give you tips about form and stuff. Not having someone talk all the time helps me stay focused. (Sometimes instructors can say some pretty cringe-y things.) I like it so far. I just need to make sure I don't start looking bulky. :p
 

Sans Souci

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Today is an active recovery day. I went for a walk. I might do yoga later, but honestly, these workouts I've been doing are pretty intense. I am thinking a long walk is enough.

My husband is talking about canceling our WDW trip. I am hoping numbers go down. We have 6 weeks to go, so that's enough time for things to change, I hope. 🤞
 

Songbird76

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It's ridiculous. My husband and I have been chatting with him everyday and he is digging in. I'm exasperated. He doesn't trust any stats or data from the government. I don't know how he got this way. The biggest thing he has going in favor is that he is a homebody. He keeps to himself and he will go to the grocery stores 1-2/month. But at the same time, my husband and I are going out and living our lives. I am not being kept hostage by him. I've stopped buying him things he likes from the stores, like organic fruit. I stopped baking treats for him. My husband said he's working on him, but he is far more optimistic than I am.
It must be incredibly frustrating for you. But I guess that's the thing with grown up kids....they are adults and you aren't going to like or agree with all of their decisions. Your roll becomes more advisory. Hopefully he'll come around. But I'm confused about the not buying him the things he likes or making treats....is that to force him into getting things for himself?
It's hard since he still lives with you. My mom tried so hard to control me and my decisions when I was in college, and I didn't even live anywhere near her. But she withheld affection and treated me horribly because I didn't do what she wanted me to do (break up with my boyfriend) and the only thing it did was make me dig in my heels even further because I didn't want to set the precedent of letting her tell me what to do for the rest of my life. I stayed with the boyfriend way longer than I should have just because I didn't want my mom to think I broke up with him because she wanted me to, because then every time she disagreed with me, she'd treat me horribly again trying to manipulate me into doing what she wanted. I didn't want to be held hostage my whole life, having to walk on eggshells and be afraid to share anything about my life with my mom for fear that she would be angry or that she would always expect me to follow her orders or she'd punish me like I was a naughty child on a time out. Maybe your son is feeling pressured and doesn't want to give in now because he's afraid that this will happen over and over again every time he makes a decision you don't like. He's at that age now of really wanting to be independent....in college, making his own decisions, etc. I hope he works through whatever the issues are, but you can't really force him.
 

Sans Souci

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It must be incredibly frustrating for you. But I guess that's the thing with grown up kids....they are adults and you aren't going to like or agree with all of their decisions. Your roll becomes more advisory. Hopefully he'll come around. But I'm confused about the not buying him the things he likes or making treats....is that to force him into getting things for himself?
It's hard since he still lives with you. My mom tried so hard to control me and my decisions when I was in college, and I didn't even live anywhere near her. But she withheld affection and treated me horribly because I didn't do what she wanted me to do (break up with my boyfriend) and the only thing it did was make me dig in my heels even further because I didn't want to set the precedent of letting her tell me what to do for the rest of my life. I stayed with the boyfriend way longer than I should have just because I didn't want my mom to think I broke up with him because she wanted me to, because then every time she disagreed with me, she'd treat me horribly again trying to manipulate me into doing what she wanted. I didn't want to be held hostage my whole life, having to walk on eggshells and be afraid to share anything about my life with my mom for fear that she would be angry or that she would always expect me to follow her orders or she'd punish me like I was a naughty child on a time out. Maybe your son is feeling pressured and doesn't want to give in now because he's afraid that this will happen over and over again every time he makes a decision you don't like. He's at that age now of really wanting to be independent....in college, making his own decisions, etc. I hope he works through whatever the issues are, but you can't really force him.

We are trying to show him it's safe and effective. My husband offered him $500 cash to go get the shots. I tell him that I love him and I don't want anything bad to happen to him, especially when it's something that can be mitigated, if not avoided. He reads and watches so much nonsense on the internet. We're not ignoring him or treating him badly, but at the same time, we're not giving him the "nice to haves" right now. (Nobody really needs banana bread or a rum cake :). ) We are still talking to him, joking around and what not. I really don't want anything bad to happen to him. No matter how hard we've tried to get him to go get the vaccine, if something bad happens to him, I'll feel like I didn't try hard enough.

He had an appointment with his doctor because he said he felt depressed. The doctor gave my son a referral to a therapist and a 'scrip for an antidepressant. He wants to do neither. I asked him to try at least try one intervention and I let it go. He is an adult. But that decision really only affects him. Not getting vaccinated has wider implications.

My husband and I are seriously thinking about leaving him behind on our second attempt to visit my grandmother. She lives in a nursing home and I'd feel awful if he brought delta into a nursing home. I don't want him getting sick and I don't want my grandmother getting ill. She had COVID back in October and I doubt she'd survive a second round.

I just feel like I am up against the clock here. It is spreading like wildfire and I feel like it's a matter of time before he gets it. Probably my husband or myself would be the ones to give it to him, too. We've returned to acting like we're not vaccinated so we don't get him ill. But I can only do so much, because everyone else has moved on and a lot of unvaccinated people are not wearing masks or socially distancing. There is a growing tide of resentment towards them right now.
 

Sans Souci

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Good afternoon.

I am checking in with a full body dumbbell workout. I might need to eat a little something before these workouts. 😓 I was petering out towards the end. This woman in the video is a machine! 😂 My legs are still a little bit sore from my workout on Wednesday.🤨

I went for a walk around my neighborhood with my husband. It was still cool out, so it was pleasant.

Other than that, I'm just enjoying a leisurely Sunday. Hope you all are, too. :)
 

Songbird76

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We are trying to show him it's safe and effective. My husband offered him $500 cash to go get the shots. I tell him that I love him and I don't want anything bad to happen to him, especially when it's something that can be mitigated, if not avoided. He reads and watches so much nonsense on the internet. We're not ignoring him or treating him badly, but at the same time, we're not giving him the "nice to haves" right now. (Nobody really needs banana bread or a rum cake :). ) We are still talking to him, joking around and what not. I really don't want anything bad to happen to him. No matter how hard we've tried to get him to go get the vaccine, if something bad happens to him, I'll feel like I didn't try hard enough.

He had an appointment with his doctor because he said he felt depressed. The doctor gave my son a referral to a therapist and a 'scrip for an antidepressant. He wants to do neither. I asked him to try at least try one intervention and I let it go. He is an adult. But that decision really only affects him. Not getting vaccinated has wider implications.

My husband and I are seriously thinking about leaving him behind on our second attempt to visit my grandmother. She lives in a nursing home and I'd feel awful if he brought delta into a nursing home. I don't want him getting sick and I don't want my grandmother getting ill. She had COVID back in October and I doubt she'd survive a second round.

I just feel like I am up against the clock here. It is spreading like wildfire and I feel like it's a matter of time before he gets it. Probably my husband or myself would be the ones to give it to him, too. We've returned to acting like we're not vaccinated so we don't get him ill. But I can only do so much, because everyone else has moved on and a lot of unvaccinated people are not wearing masks or socially distancing. There is a growing tide of resentment towards them right now.
Well it's good to hear you aren't withholding affection from him....that backfires majorly. But you're right, no one NEEDS the treats. Why did he go to the doctor about the depression? It sounds like he never intended to actually get help for it. I know there's kind of a stigma attached to getting therapy, so many people don't get help when they need it, but usually people won't even go to the doctor then because they don't want to be told they should see a therapist.

There's a lot of backlash against vaccines here, too, though I think most people have gotten it. It's a small group who is advocating against it, but they are very vocal. One of the women in my choir is against it, but she didn't try to talk anyone else out of getting it...just that SHE doesn't want to. But I saw on the news today that someone in the US who I guess was really vocal against the vaccines died of covid yesterday or the day before maybe? On the one hand it's sad, but on the other, it was completely his own decision to ignore medical advice. You can tell people it's not safe to play in the street, but if they choose to do it anyway, it's hard to feel bad for them when something bad happens to them that could have been prevented. But I do feel sorry for loved ones....I think it's hard on them, especially if they disagreed with the person who died. There's not only the grief from losing their loved one, but also the feeling of guilt that they couldn't persuade them. It's a double loss because they know it didn't have to happen the way it did, but they wonder what they could have done to prevent it. I think in most cases, there's nothing you can do...if you push too hard, it only makes them dig their heels in even farther.

If your son does get it, it won't be anything you did or didn't do. You've done your best. You've given him access to information, you've talked to him about it, you've given him every opportunity to be safe, including inconveniencing yourselves. Would he even be allowed in the nursing home to visit grandma if he hasn't been vaccinated? I know a lot of places here are requiring proof of vaccination or negative tests. I would think about how I would feel if he inadvertently brought covid to her, whether she got sick or not....could you live with that? If not, then I'd leave him home. But do you even have concrete plans for when to go?
 

Songbird76

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My workout today was finally weeding the rest of the front yard that I didn't get done last time. It took me HOURS, and I know I'm going to be sore tomorrow, but it really needed to be done. I need to mow the lawn, too, but I didn't have the energy after pulling all the weeds. It was really sunny and while I drank 2 bottles of water in the process and I wore sunscreen, I was headachy when I got done.
 

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