You enjoy Autopia, no?
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Wookies, & Rebels, & Droids... OH WHY?! The Anti-SWL in Disneyland Thread
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You enjoy Autopia, no?
Mike S
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George Lucas on a Bench
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The most of all TL attractions.
Same, by far my favorite.
When the kinetics are going on at the same time (driving under or past the moving Monorail and seeing the bobsleds zoom through the Matterhorn), Autopia is a real treat, in my opinion. The last time I went on, the fireworks were going off at the time. It was great.
Figments Friend
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Riding Autopia during sunset is quite nice.
Recommend it.!
Recommend it.!
Rich T
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It was amazing when the Peoplemover, Motorboats and the separate, 2nd Autopia were intertwined in all that, too.
George Lucas on a Bench
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I do, but I rarely go on it.
I stupidly entered Disneyland during the LED parade last night. They tried to force me to go through Tomorrowland, which is a trap since you're stuck there until the thing is over unless you manage to cross or go to the Matterhorn. I immediately turned around at the giant french fry rocks and waited. It was awful.
Mike S
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All those kinetics sound amazing.
Rich T
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It was. Tomorrowland used to be a joyful, energetic place, and when Disney called it a "World on the Move" they weren't kidding. There was a spot on the Peoplemover track that came almost down to ground level, right beside the Autopia roadway. So fun.
Thanks, Pressler.
George Lucas on a Bench
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As the late Prince said on first track of the 1989 Batman soundtrack album, "I've seen the future and, boy, it's rough."
Tomorrowland is the worst place to be in during one of the parades. It's the worst place to be in in general haha.
Omnispace
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I like the way you have approached this topic. I pretty much agree that this is one of the most ridiculous ideas I have ever heard of happening at Disneyland. Aside from the argument of fundamentally altering Walt's park, the Star Wars area is simply going to be this bizarro alternate universe behind Frontierland. One is going to be strolling the wooded trail past Big Thunder and happen upon a Star Wars themed scene??
I have often maintained that the conflict nature of the Star Wars sagas make the property is less desirable as a theme park environment as the majority of production was centered around creating forbidding and inhospitable locales for the drama to play out. About the only two places I would have wanted to visit in the Star Wars universe are Naboo, and Endor, (which I can visit in person if I just drive up the coast a bit). I realize that audiences are drawn to the excitement of the action and the appeal of the characters but that's only half of the equation. My worries are that a Star Wars land is going to end up being as depressing as 1998 Tomorrowland.
In a way, I had always hoped that Frontierland would have received a new frontier-themed dark ride attraction to expand the offerings. An updated version of the Western River Expedition would have been a great fit for the area. I suppose if the Star Wars franchise falls into disfavor they can always remake the area into a somewhat unusual mining camp.
Omnispace
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Believe me -- I once wandered across a Star Wars convention in Indianapolis. My first clue was Sand People hanging out in the Hyatt Regency lobby, (always a bad sign). Once I reached the epicenter of the spectacle I was completely blown away by the fervor of it all. I don't think that Disney realizes the culture clash they are creating. The pin lanyard pixie dusters don't stand a chance against Sand People!
Rich T
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I see your point, but I'm going for the optimistic view: Star Wars has always been popular (at least the theatrical films) because there's plenty of humor, color and energy to the proceedings-- plus an invigorating implication of all the possibilities for different life forms and cultures "out there." The stories focus on the conflicts--because that's what fiction does--but the SW galaxy itself is packed with wonderful everyday characters that would be great fun to meet in a park environment. I really think the Imagineers have discussed that same concern you have at length and will ensure that the land is inviting and a bit edgy without being too dark. The darkness will happen on the rides.I have often maintained that the conflict nature of the Star Wars sagas make the property is less desirable as a theme park environment as the majority of production was centered around creating forbidding and inhospitable locales for the drama to play out...My worries are that a Star Wars land is going to end up being as depressing as 1998 Tomorrowland.
In a way, I had always hoped that Frontierland would have received a new frontier-themed dark ride attraction to expand the offerings. An updated version of the Western River Expedition would have been a great fit for the area. I suppose if the Star Wars franchise falls into disfavor they can always remake the area into a somewhat unusual mining camp.
I've posted this before, but look at Frontierland and Fantasyland. They could have been depressing. The Old West was a violent, dirty place full of tragedy and death, but that's not what Disney focused on. Fantasyland--Think about it. Pinocchio's village is full of kidnappers and murderers. Wonderland's full of insane people. There are killers and monsters lurking everywhere in fairy tales and peasants live lives of literal crap, but--Yay for the royal couples, I guess? It's all in how you interpret the source material.
Don't get me wrong, I would still LOVE to see a version of Western River Expedition become reality. And, though Star Wars will probably "fall into disfavor" about the time fairy tales disappear from the planet... They could easily turn Star Wars Land into Discovery Bay. Won't happen, but they could.
Star Wars Land isn't a stupid idea; It's going to make Disneyland more popular and timely than ever. Long time fans (myself included) are naturally apprehensive about major changes to a creation we love so much. But the upcoming generations of DL fans are going to embrace this change and, to them, it will be as classic and natural-seeming as a castle at the end of Main St. seems to us. Once this opens (and the inevitable kinks are worked out), all the complaints and objections will be forgotten. I'm sorry to lose a bit of the river, and I'm sorry we aren't going to see Frontierland expand. But I have high hopes that SWL is going to bring a tidal wave of color, life and excitement to that previously-off-limits area.
Rich T
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They'd probably *love* a line stretching out of the park--Makes headlines. I *can't wait* for more details on this one. Wouldn't it suck to find out it was just a VR headset experience? I sure hope it's much more than that. A slightly gentler Mission Space, maybe?
I like the way you have approached this topic. I pretty much agree that this is one of the most ridiculous ideas I have ever heard of happening at Disneyland. Aside from the argument of fundamentally altering Walt's park, the Star Wars area is simply going to be this bizarro alternate universe behind Frontierland. One is going to be strolling the wooded trail past Big Thunder and happen upon a Star Wars themed scene??
I have often maintained that the conflict nature of the Star Wars sagas make the property is less desirable as a theme park environment as the majority of production was centered around creating forbidding and inhospitable locales for the drama to play out. About the only two places I would have wanted to visit in the Star Wars universe are Naboo, and Endor, (which I can visit in person if I just drive up the coast a bit). I realize that audiences are drawn to the excitement of the action and the appeal of the characters but that's only half of the equation. My worries are that a Star Wars land is going to end up being as depressing as 1998 Tomorrowland.
In a way, I had always hoped that Frontierland would have received a new frontier-themed dark ride attraction to expand the offerings. An updated version of the Western River Expedition would have been a great fit for the area. I suppose if the Star Wars franchise falls into disfavor they can always remake the area into a somewhat unusual mining camp.
Unfortunately, the clueless fans/guests will eat it up.
Rich T
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It'll also be eaten up by clue-filled fans/guests.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
This is a far too limited view of the scope and scale of what they're trying to accomplish. You're describing the only two places in the Star Wars FILMS that you would want to visit. The Star Wars UNIVERSE is much more vast than what you're familiar with if your knowledge of that world is confined to Episodes I through VII.
As to the rest of your post, which I omitted to shorten the quote, I think you're focusing far too much on plot and not enough on world building. If I understand the vision correctly, the goal of Star Wars land is not to take you into the plot of the films, but to transport you to that world. Likewise, the DAK expansion isn't about showing you the plot of the movie Avatar, it's about taking you into the world of Pandora.