EPCOT Explorer
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I was just using it as an example.
Did you see my other post? Exciting.
No...linky?
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With Disney buying Marvel what park in WDW will be impacted by this?
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No...linky?
SirGoofy
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It's higher up the page.:lol:
The Conundrum
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It could be the age gap between us but in the Disney parks I grew up attractions such as Test Track, Mission:Space, gran fiesta tour, the seas with nemo, and imagination 3 would have been deemed unacceptable and not up to Disney standards.
In my time thrill rides were fully themed fully realized concepts (Star Tours, Indy, ToT) and dark rides were eleborate and well thought out (Imagination 1.0, Horizons, SSE) and there were no cartoon charecter tie ins (just the Epcot versions of the fab 5 + Captian EO & Dreamfinder/Figment). I remember my first few visits to Epcot it would take two days to fully explore the park and thats with skipping stuff like food rocks and the lion king cartoon (which at the time would have been considered the absolute worst attractions). I remember when the living seas had the seacabs working every time and you could see stuff like spooky moraay eels and all kinds of other stuff that is now blocked off from the attraction. I remember when there were alot more jumping fish and theming outside of Imagination and I remember vehicles transporting guests around World Showcase (boats, double decker buses, etc.)
EPCOT Explorer
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Age gap?:lookaroun
You forget that I remember and experienced all of EPCOT Center, when it was in it's last "epoch".:lol:
TT- :shrug: It's a nice ride, I'm sure, but it does not particularly fit FW.
M:S- You and I do not see eye to eye on this. It's fantastically themed, aimed for the future and is VERY unique.
TLS- I agree. It's not EPCOT quality. It's DHS.
JII- I like it, but the original was FAR superior and far more "classic". It was the HM of EC. I miss it horribly.
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TalkingHead
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I think what some of the Marvel fans are forgetting is that for many adults superheroes are as childish as Mickey Mouse.
But I must say this thread has some of the most fantastic examples of delusional fanboyism that I've ever seen.
People who have complained about too much Pixar and too much characterization in the parks have suddenly decided characters are fine as long as they're Marvel superheroes.
What a joke.
SirGoofy
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Of course many adults see that. I'm not an idiot. But to many, many males 18-30, superheroes are cool again.
And personally, I know they're gonna use characters for rides in the parks. Iger said it. I've come to terms with it. But if they're gonna use characters I'd appreciate a ride or two with characters that isn't aimed at 5 year olds.
EPCOT Explorer
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I must say, that I agree.
I also must say, that I am in NO WAY a fan of comics, save for Bionicle, and have always found them corny and predictable.:shrug: They never seem exciting.
The Conundrum
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Not really,I remember reading that Walt Disney told his brother Roy shortly before he died that Marvel, Star Wars, and Muppet charecters were all acceptable to be in the parks.
This video will be revealed at D23 and will explain everything
SirGoofy
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I don't read the books, save for the big events. But that doesn't mean some of the characters aren't some of the best out there.
The Spectacular Spider-Man is the best animated TV show I've ever seen, and Wolverine and the X-Men is also very, very good. Not to mention movies like Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, X2, Iron Man, and The Incredible Hulk are some of the most fun, yet well done, movies in the past few years.
The Conundrum
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whoooaaa excuse me mr.high and mighty. I'm sorry that comics can't match up your exceptionally high expectations especially when compared to some of your favorites such as the works Dostoevsky, Pride & Prejudice, and Charles Darwin's Origin of a Species!
Go read Watchmen, Fables and Neil Gaiman's Sandman and then come back and repeat what you said.
EPCOT Explorer
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I have to disagree...They are all predictable.:shrug: It's just not my thing.:lol:
The media is passable. It's a good movie, but it's typical popcorn fodder. (Remember Transformers!?:lookaroun) It's not too meaningful, it's action, it's fun. What it's meant for.
Now, Disney, IS meant for something. It is meant for nostalgia, for family values, for fun. I just can't combine the two.
:wave:
What attractions in WDW are the Marvel characters going to be used in?
EPCOT Explorer
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How do you know my favorites? You missed Steinbeck, and Verne, however...:wave:
AHA!
Here, you'll like this. I'm a HUGE Watchmen Fan. Read the "novel" saw the movie, loved it all. THAT is what I think a comic should be! Meaningful, VERY odd, VERY VERY shocking and NOT predicable, or corny. That stuff was cool.Though I like it, should it be integrated with Disney? No. It's not like that. You can't combine the dystopian with the utopian.
The Conundrum
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How do you know my favorites? You missed Steinbeck, and Verne, however...:wave:
AHA!
Though I like it, should it be integrated with Disney? No. It's not like that. You can't combine the dystopian with the utopian.
Do yourself and me a favor and try Neil Gaiman's Sandman. Read the first 2 books ("Preludes & Nocturnes" "Dollhouse") and then let me know what you think. You might be able to rent them from the local library.
Oh and you should do yourself another favor and read William Gibson (Neuromancer ftw)
SirGoofy
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Not true AT ALL. Comparing movies like those(maybe excluding Hulk) with Transformers is totally off base. I'm not going to debate you on that here, because it's not the place. Spider-Man has the undertones of what it takes to be a hero, X-Men has an undertone of racism, etc.
Just look at the Rotten Tomatoes scores.
Spider-Man-90%
Spider-Man 2-94%
X2: X-Men United-88%
Iron Man(Best reviewed movie last year according to RT):93%
Didn't you just say comic movies weren't good for that.:shrug:
SirGoofy
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AHA!
Sorry, but a lot of Modern Comics are like that. You should check out Marvel: Civil War. A very, very powerful storyline, along with House of M.
The Conundrum
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Identity Crisis was better than house of M and civil war. Nobody beats Meltzer's writing
EPCOT Explorer
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I'll look into it....
I dunno...I just don't get into that kind of mainstream predictability.
Not comparing it to Trans, just saying it's the same kind of audience type/story. Those movies were MUCH better than Trans.:lol:
Is is about OUR Civil War?
EPCOT Explorer
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Is there actual WRITING in it?
Or is it all pictures with little speech bubbles?
Just asking, honestly.
If you like the "writing", half of it's the visual pairing...