Will WDW ever build Big kid thrill rides?

GrammieBee

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One more time; my family loved "thrill" rides and we traveled all over the USA to ride on them. That said, the Disney parks were built as family parks with something for everyone whether it was rides, shows, attractions or even shopping. There are a few thrill rides in each park for the adrenalin junkies. When it is suggested that the thrill seekers who dream of and want bigger and faster rides go to some other park noted for thrill rides they say that they love Disney and that a park such as Cedar Point just isn't Disney.

You can't have it both ways! They argue that a Cedar Point type park is not Disney, but at the same time they want to change Disney into a Cedar Point, only better themed. It isn't going to happen.
 

Lord_Vader

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Disney (at WDW) doesn't need to do thrill rides, its core audience doesn't like them in general. Look at MS and Alien Encounter, they are low wait and hated by typical WDW visitors. These attractions cost money to build and alienate or at the very least irritate many guests that are at WDW because the rides are generally mild in terms of thrills. They should be building more attractions similar to RnRC, EE, TT, ToT that are somewhat thrilling but "safe" enough that a family feels comfortable including everyone.

Personally, I love thrill rides that throw me around, launch me, invert me and drop me but my wife would not get near one (excet RnRC) and neither would my daughter (even today at 21) but my son would love them. The target audience for WDW is families, the entire family if at all possible and high speed thrill rides inevitably leave someone out in any family group which is why WDW is so popular when compared to other theme parks.
 

Goofyernmost

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They argue that a Cedar Point type park is not Disney, but at the same time they want to change Disney into a Cedar Point, only better themed. It isn't going to happen.
I wouldn't go so far as to say, it's never going to happen, but, in the same respect, it will no longer be Disney, but, just another amusement/theme park. I know we all get tired of being subjected to all these wild comparisons, but, look at it this way. Would you go to a Chevy dealer to buy an airplane. There both transportation, why can't we just go to that one place to fulfill all our desires.
 

Lord_Vader

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I'm a huge fan of coasters....the bigger then better. That said I don't think Disney would be able to successfully pull off something like a 200-300 ft coaster. Think about it. How would they theme a 200-300 foot lift hill. I'm sure it's possible but would be very difficult. Especially if it has to blend in with it's surroundings. Also those high coasters travel at least 65mph. What could you possibly have to tell a great story in the way of theming? Everything will just zip right by you. I think the limit is EE. It has a pretty slow section to start off to tell the story then a few moments of speed before you come to an end. Even then the fast part is in the dark going backwards, or it's only about 30 seconds outside. It seems like the majority of the speed coasters disney builds is in the dark. Probably because it's so hard to theme a a fast coaster.

I think the majority of fans want to just see how Disney could incorporate their attention to telling a story to a high speed thrill ride. I just don't see how it's possible to be honest. We already have that in RnR and some of the Space Mountains. I just don't see how they could get it to "fit in" a land without it looking like a huge steel/wodden coaster unless it's another coaster in the dark.

The main reason WDW does not have attractions over 199ft is the FAA requires a high intensity light on top of any structure taller than 200ft, it would be difficult to theme a light that is on before dusk and all night in any mountain.

You are correct, Disney uses dark coasters because it heightens the intensity even though the coaster is generally more mild.
 

Lord_Vader

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I have flown to Ireland for under 500, London under 600, Finland under 600, China under 1000. Just gotta look.

A lot of that depends on your starting location, airline tickets from my local airport are fairly expensive unless you are flying to destinations that are hubs like Atlanta or Dallas.
 

Magenta Panther

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Tower of Terror is certainly a "big kid thrill ride". One of the best, in fact.

A Villains attraction could be a BKTR too. But it'll probably never happen. :p
 

GrammieBee

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The original Alien Encounter was definitely an intense experience. We thought it was great and rated it right up there with Tower of Terror. However, people wanted it gone because it was too scary and not "Disney" enough. So we are left with Stitch.
 

Pixie VaVoom

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Was at Disney for 8 days recently. Don't get me wrong I love it there but is it me or do they need a couple of rides that really get the juices going for the big kids? I found myself getting on tower of terror multiple time just to get the juices going. Hopefully they will build some more in the future cause after walking around all over and watching all those shows u need something to get u going.

Dude - you need to go to CEDAR POINT !! Serious thrill rides. I can't even LOOK at some of them...Just saying...
 
They should absolutely do this, some ideas:
A runaway mine car train.
A flume ride with a big "waterfall" drop
A rollercoaster with inversions themed to rock 'n roll music
A rollercoaster that goes -wait for it- backwards
A rollercoaster in the dark
A randomized "multiple drop" free fall attraction, even better, one that drops faster than gravity because it's not really a free fall but pulley like system

Give me a call Dis peeps... I've got it figured out.
I don't really think of Everest to be a wait for it type of ride. Shiekra and Griffon are more wait for it type of rides, that are more thrilling
 
All are nice rides but be honest are u extremely thrilled from them? answer is NO. They are entertaining but I haven't gotten off them saying holy **** that was insane. 1 holy **** ride would be nice that's all. I love Disney but I know I'm not the only one that thinks it needs one like that to top them off.
CAN DISNEY HIRE THIS GUY PLEASE
 
Well, I don't know what you mean by "big kid". Do you mean that literally...like for teenagers (big kids) or do you mean for adults who are "kid at heart"?

Personally, I think there is a difference between the two...and I also think that Disney should build at least one E-ticket ride that would appeal to each group. My suggestions are:

A. Maleficent Coaster: in Fantasyland, on land reclaimed from demolishing the Speedway. Make this one for teens...and theme it as Prince Phillip racing through the thorn forest and ruins and battling the Maleficent dragon. Include lots of fire special effects in greens and yellows like in the movie, with that haunting score. The queue would be themed as a forest of thorns and the show building would have Maleficent's castle at the top.

B. Time Travel Coaster: in Tomorrowland, on the other half of land reclaimed from the demolished Speedway. Have this one be for older teens/adults (kids at heart) and have it be more intense than Space Mountain...with the theme being that it's a rocket that travels through time and you skip through different eras before rocketing to another one. Early life on Earth. Dinosaur age. Asteroid impact. Ice Age. Wild West. Distant Future. What's fun about this is that you could do a little homage to all the lands of WDW in just one ride (especially if you had a medieval pit stop in there). Theme the queue area like it's a research center where all the relics being collected from this time traveling are being examined so that guests will get more insight into the time periods they'll be traveling through before they ride the ride (so have display cases showing artifacts...and also have animatronics or video renderings of the animals that were found in those time periods).

C. Tron Coaster: Also for Tomorrowland, if the time machine idea is not good enough. This would be for older teens/adults and would be like you were zapped into the Tron game.

D. Adventurer's Club E-Ticket: Not a coaster, but something that would make you feel like you were on an adventure with the Adventurer's Club in Adventureland. This could be for teens. The show building would actually be built so that an Adventurer's Club Restaurant would be on the second floor or adjacent so the theme of the ride would be strengthened with the adventurers in the new club. The ride could be a mission that the club sends new recruits on...to investigate something or to capture some animal like a sabertooth cat or something from the jungle. Take the Jungle Cruise but remove the water and have it go at high speeds racing through jungles on the hunt for something, and have mythical animals be leaping out and scaring you the whole time.

E. Rapunzel Runaway Mine Car: There's a scene in Tangled where they have just left the Snuggly Duckling and end up in a cave...and then they get pushed out by water and end up in an area with mine cars and tracks...that can be expanded into a Rapunzel ride. Not sure where they would put it though because the Tangled bathroom area has no room for a ride like this. But to me it seems like a nice bridge between Fantasyland and Frontierland. When I watched Tangled I thought about that...because it was like the Rapunzel and Flynn characters left Fantasyland (the Snuggly Duckling) and then crawled through Frontierland-like tunnels and ended up in a desert looking area like the old West/Thunder Mountain. Too bad the entrance to a ride like this can't be built in Fantasyland next to a real Snuggly Duckling and then the show building would spit you out in Frontierland near Thunder Mountain somehow, using all that wooded land that's along the Rivers of America. I personally think it would be very cool to be deposited in a whole other land when we left the ride...but I wonder if that would be too disorienting for people who would be waiting for their friends to get off the ride and they'd be surprised that the ride deposited them on another side of the park.

I love thinking up new ideas for rides. I wish I had the know-how to be an Imagineer. My husband loves building model trains and I've tried here and there to get him to make one that's based on an idea of mine for a ride but he's never interested in doing this. He has his hobby (the trains) and I have mine (armchair imagineering!).
Disney took one of your ideas and put it in Shanghai.

Can you give me an idea on what each ride would be like. Like inversions? Launch? Those types of things.
 

CP_alum08

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I doubt it. Because you have people who think splash and thunder mt. are thrill rides, Disney probably doesn't see the need for it. Plus there are real thrill rides at 2 different parks a few miles away.

I'm with you, I would love some big thrill rides BUT we went to Cedar Point a few weeks ago and were noticing the lack of theming. It was really noticeable when you got on the ride. You'd sit down, buckle/harness in, and were off! Which is great for moving the line but there was no "wildest ride in the wilderness"-type speech before any of the rides.
 

blueboxdoctor

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I doubt it, and I'm fine with that. But I'm also not a big fan of the more extreme type rides. I like WDW because it doesn't really have many intense rides. I see how people could want them, but a ride that alienates kids probably won't get a green light if there's another ride in planning that would attract all age groups.
 

DfromATX

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I just recently realized something about my family. We went to Six Flags Fiesta over Labor Day weekend. It was me, husband, and 12 year old son. I swear I was with two big ol' chickens! They wouldn't ride anything! The scariest ride we did was the Road Runner. But, there is not one ride they won't do at Disney (except Mission in Space orange, but they'll do green). I'm never going to Fiesta again (not with them anyway). It's a waste of money if you don't do the coasters. Anyway, I realized we are more of a Disney caliber family. I personally wouldn't mind some more thrill rides, but I still love it." To me, Tower of Terror is a thrill ride - I scream and clutch my seat the whole way down!
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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All are nice rides but be honest are u extremely thrilled from them? answer is NO. They are entertaining but I haven't gotten off them saying holy **** that was insane. 1 holy **** ride would be nice that's all. I love Disney but I know I'm not the only one that thinks it needs one like that to top them off.
Go to DCA and ride Mickey's Fun Wheel, scariest ride I've ever been on. :)
 

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