Will There Every Be a 5th Major Park?

[WDW FTW]

Haha I have come to that understanding. So how long before we see a major addition to DHS and AK?

I hope they have some ideas in the making, but im sure much of the focus is still on fantasyland 2.0, and possibly this shady project z. but i would expect something new between the 2 of them in 2-3 years at the most :shrug:

 

[H2Opolo15]

I hope they have some ideas in the making, but im sure much of the focus is still on fantasyland 2.0, and possibly this shady project z. but i would expect something new between the 2 of them in 2-3 years at the most :shrug:

I guess we can only hope. There doesn't seem to be much going on anywhere outside of the Magic Kingdom that I saw when I was there a month ago. Aside from what looked like repainting the facade of ToT... I got to watch that for an hour while waiting for the "Rockin'" Roller Coaster...:hammer:

 

[flavious27]

MK already passed the railroad line, look at Space Mountain

And Frontierland.

 

[flavious27]

Haha I have come to that understanding. So how long before we see a major addition to DHS and AK?

Between the two, I think it would be AK because the land that most of us think would be developed is mostly cleared and would be cheaper . I know, we predict disney would go the cheap route.

 

[cheezbat]

I completely agree with everybody else saying we need to build up the current parks first.

But once that's done, what's next? A fifth gate is totally in the cards somewhere in the future. Maybe 10 years...maybe 20....maybe 50. But it will happen. I personally would like to see another completely different concept park created. Something with MAYBE a touch of some Disneysea/water...mixed in with some steampunk, adventure, mystery...and high tech? SO many concepts are still out there waiting to be Imagined...and some Imagineered!

 

[Disday]

I believe the Reedy Creek report that was published in 2009 over what I read on Disney boards. It said that a 5th major park is projected to open within the next 10 years. People want to argue that these reports have been wrong before, but I don't think that they were predicting the great recession - which officially ended in 2009. I expect the economy to keep improving, thus paving the way for the fifth gate. I've heard from a reliable source that the working name is World of Marvel - we'll see.

 

[trr1]

I believe the Reedy Creek report that was published in 2009 over what I read on Disney boards. It said that a 5th major park is projected to open within the next 10 years. People want to argue that these reports have been wrong before, but I don't think that they were predicting the great recession - which officially ended in 2009. I expect the economy to keep improving, thus paving the way for the fifth gate. I've heard from a reliable source that the working name is World of Marvel - we'll see.

can you post a link to this please it sounds like a interesting read:wave:

 

[zooey]

I've heard from a reliable source that the working name is World of Marvel - we'll see.

This is impossible from a legal standpoint. Universal would have to give up their rights to their Marvel characters (Spiderman, Dr. Doom, Hulk, etc.), which they would never do.

 

[BeachClubNut]

Hello everyone! This is my 2nd post (first one not on the "Welcome" forum) and I have a question, but before I ask I would just like to say hello!

My family and I visited WDW just before Christmas time this past year, Dec. 19-22, and although I realize this is a busy time of year there just seemed to be a surplus of people everywhere making things uncomfortable crammed and lines growing to over 2 hours quickly after the parks open. So on our trip home we were brainstorming and figured what if they built a new park? I know they have a new value resort in the works but is there any possibility in the next 5-10 years of there being a new major park for WDW?

A CM told me they are skipping the 5th park so they can build a much bigger 6th park.........:shrug:


















Im joking little Saturday humor as I get ready to shovel MORE SNOW......with temps at 7 degrees.....

 

[BeachClubNut]

There is a fifth park being developed and land is already cleared but won't be announced til after Fantasyland is complete... It will be on the other side of the road from Fort Wilderness campgrounds area... Its going to be more thrilling like California Adventure... Trees are being cleared but there's a very thick level of forest blocking view from the road........ You can tell when Disney is up to something big because they build new resorts 1.) Disney's Art of Animation, 2.) There's a DVC resort going up in the Fort Wilderness area... They build the new resorts to accomodate the higher number of guests... I promise you this is coming from a legit source, a family member works with a company who made new low VOC paint for Disney and the person looking over the project has taked with them bout using 100% of their paint in these new projects including Fantasyland................

The legit source is incorrect......it wont be the 5th park it is actually the 6th park, they are skipping the 5th park so they can make a much larger 6th park, that is why there is a very thick level of forest blocking view from the road. If it was the 5th park they wouldn't leave a very thick level of forest blocking view from the road......... I heard this from a very, very, very, very, very reliable source that sells toilet paper to The parks and they have contacted them because the 6th park will be much larger and have many more bathrooms that will require much more toilet paper this source is very, very very reliable.....:hammer:

 

[Thurp]

I believe the Reedy Creek report that was published in 2009 over what I read on Disney boards. It said that a 5th major park is projected to open within the next 10 years. People want to argue that these reports have been wrong before, but I don't think that they were predicting the great recession - which officially ended in 2009. I expect the economy to keep improving, thus paving the way for the fifth gate. I've heard from a reliable source that the working name is World of Marvel - we'll see.

I'm dumbing this explanation down significantly, but, Reedy Creek keeps an eye on the amount of land and resources left in resort. Not only do they not dictate what gets built, they also don't have any idea what the long-term plans are for the resort. They just say things like "if you guys want to build a theme park, these are the areas that can support it."

 

[Bender!]

I don't like when people say something will be "just like ______"

I'd much rather wait and see something entirely new and original as a 5th park.

 

[trr1]

The legit source is incorrect......it wont be the 5th park it is actually the 6th park, they are skipping the 5th park so they can make a much larger 6th park, that is why there is a very thick level of forest blocking view from the road. If it was the 5th park they wouldn't leave a very thick level of forest blocking view from the road......... I heard this from a very, very, very, very, very reliable source that sells toilet paper to The parks and they have contacted them because the 6th park will be much larger and have many more bathrooms that will require much more toilet paper this source is very, very very reliable.....:hammer:

it will be named exaloo here are some preliminary pictures

wait for the lap bars!http://exelooeast.com/video/
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[twizzy17]

This is impossible from a legal standpoint. Universal would have to give up their rights to their Marvel characters (Spiderman, Dr. Doom, Hulk, etc.), which they would never do.

How much longer does Universal have the rights? Disney did buy Marvel for around 4 billion dollars right?

 

[WDW FTW]

How much longer does Universal have the rights? Disney did buy Marvel for around 4 billion dollars right?

Well yes they did, but Universal and Disney have worked out a deal so that Universal can keep the Marvel part of Islands of Adventures, but they are technically "renting" the characters because Universal either made a certain payment during the deal, or they are paying annually, i cant remember exactly right now. Hope i helped answer your question.

 

[Bender!]

Yeah, from what I can remember, Disney is honoring all existing contracts with Marvel for Universal Studios in Orlando. So Marvel characters are not allowed in the Disney Parks on that side of the Mississippi.

However, once the contract is up for renewal, it all depends on what Universal or Disney wants to do. Universal may not want to continue paying for the rights for the Marvel characters (for whatever reason), or they may wish to continue. However, if they do wish to continue, Disney can force Universal to end the agreement by raising the prices or terms of their agreement. But that could be seen as bad press for Disney.

However, I would never say that the possibility of Marvel Characters at Disney World is impossible. They're already selling Marvel merchandise within the parks, so its not like they're absent at all from the World.

 

[cheezbat]

From what I have heard, the initial contract for use of the Marvel characters at Universal is good through 2018. After that, it really comes down to Disney and Universal working out an extension or Universal settling and selling back the theme park rights for whatever amount of money Disney pays them.
If you ask me, I think it would totally be worth it to IOA to just sell back the rights and re-do the Island themed to DC Comics heroes. All they have to do is work out a deal with Warner Bros/DC and possibly Six Flags. A relatively cheap overlay...and one I would be TOTALLY cool with!:king:

I think we will see Marvel Superhero Island go bye bye before 2018...probably more like 2015. This is just my personal guess and opinion of course.

 

[ChrisFL]

From what I have heard, the initial contract for use of the Marvel characters at Universal is good through 2018. After that, it really comes down to Disney and Universal working out an extension or Universal settling and selling back the theme park rights for whatever amount of money Disney pays them.
If you ask me, I think it would totally be worth it to IOA to just sell back the rights and re-do the Island themed to DC Comics heroes. All they have to do is work out a deal with Warner Bros/DC and possibly Six Flags. A relatively cheap overlay...and one I would be TOTALLY cool with!:king:

I think we will see Marvel Superhero Island go bye bye before 2018...probably more like 2015. This is just my personal guess and opinion of course.

If Universal keeps neglecting the Hulk coaster, maybe earlier than that!

 

[RSoxNo1]

How much longer does Universal have the rights? Disney did buy Marvel for around 4 billion dollars right?

Well yes they did, but Universal and Disney have worked out a deal so that Universal can keep the Marvel part of Islands of Adventures, but they are technically "renting" the characters because Universal either made a certain payment during the deal, or they are paying annually, i cant remember exactly right now. Hope i helped answer your question.

From what I have heard, the initial contract for use of the Marvel characters at Universal is good through 2018. After that, it really comes down to Disney and Universal working out an extension or Universal settling and selling back the theme park rights for whatever amount of money Disney pays them.
If you ask me, I think it would totally be worth it to IOA to just sell back the rights and re-do the Island themed to DC Comics heroes. All they have to do is work out a deal with Warner Bros/DC and possibly Six Flags. A relatively cheap overlay...and one I would be TOTALLY cool with!:king:

I think we will see Marvel Superhero Island go bye bye before 2018...probably more like 2015. This is just my personal guess and opinion of course.

Universal's deal with Marvel obviously existed before Disney acquired Marvel. The agreement is ironclad and it includes very specific details like merchandise rights, attraction rights, sign rights, walk around character rights etc.

These deals exist in perpetuity which means there is no end date provided that Universal elects to keep them. There was a time when Disney had an employee at IOA on a daily basis monitoring the maintenance of the attractions at Marvel Super Hero Island but that has since stopped.

The contract really favors Universal because it was created by a company that wouldn't be creating a theme park. It gives Universal Studios exclusivity rights east of the Mississippi to all of the characters that currently exist in their park. Ironically, they gave up these rights in California shortly before Disney acquired Marvel.

Other people may be able to verify this part for us, but I believe that there are characters that do not appear at Islands of Adventure that could be used by Disney. However, Islands of Adventure has the rights to the majority of the significant characters - but any new building with these characters would have to be approved by Disney.

 

[Bender!]

Universal's deal with Marvel obviously existed before Disney acquired Marvel. The agreement is ironclad and it includes very specific details like merchandise rights, attraction rights, sign rights, walk around character rights etc.

These deals exist in perpetuity which means there is no end date provided that Universal elects to keep them. There was a time when Disney had an employee at IOA on a daily basis monitoring the maintenance of the attractions at Marvel Super Hero Island but that has since stopped.

The contract really favors Universal because it was created by a company that wouldn't be creating a theme park. It gives Universal Studios exclusivity rights east of the Mississippi to all of the characters that currently exist in their park. Ironically, they gave up these rights in California shortly before Disney acquired Marvel.

Other people may be able to verify this part for us, but I believe that there are characters that do not appear at Islands of Adventure that could be used by Disney. However, Islands of Adventure has the rights to the majority of the significant characters - but any new building with these characters would have to be approved by Disney.

Well, its not like you're going to want to put any of the "neglected" superheroes in the parks. You're gonna want to use Iron Man, Spidey, Hulk, etc...

However, I guess merchandising is okay under the contract.