Why is Stitch's Great Escape still there?

Matt_Black

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And that's a valid point. However, until Alien Encounter, the attractions that offered thrills were mild. AE was a different kettle of fish entirely.
 

Magenta Panther

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There was once a time when Disney didn't think the Magic Kingdom should be an over glorified playground for toddlers.

For my part, I didn't mean to infer that rides in MK should be dumbed-down for kids. The Haunted Mansion is certainly scary for a lot of kids. My prob with Stitch is that it just isn't very fun or entertaining. It's mostly just unpleasant, and that's too bad, because technically it's very well done. I think a new script and some tweaks (especially with those damn chairs) would help it a lot. JMHO.
 

Matt_Black

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For my part, I didn't mean to infer that rides in MK should be dumbed-down for kids. The Haunted Mansion is certainly scary for a lot of kids. My prob with Stitch is that it just isn't very fun or entertaining. It's mostly just unpleasant, and that's too bad, because technically it's very well done. I think a new script and some tweaks (especially with those damn chairs) would help it a lot. JMHO.

Yeah. The pre-show and a good bit of the first part of the attraction proper are done brilliantly. SGE's premise is to transition from comedy to horror (or at least a good amount of tension), and then back from horror to comedy. It does the first part exceedingly well, in my opinion. The latter, however, needs work. The jokes are uninspired. And, I'm sure I've mentioned this before, why go to all the trouble to bring back Kevin MacDonald as Pleakley if you're not gonna have him say anything funny? The man was part of one of the greatest sketch comedy shows of all time!
 

MDactor1980

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I can't get on board with all the SGE hate. The biggest issue I have in TL is the Speedway. Until space travel becomes a common occurrence for people, aliens and spaceships will always seem like tomorrow. Glorified go-carts seems more dated and in need of attention. Just because a ride exists, doesn't mean you have to love it. Focus on the rides you like.If NO one was riding a ride, they'd do something about it, but there still appears to be an audience for SGE.
 

cheezbat

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I can't get on board with all the SGE hate. The biggest issue I have in TL is the Speedway. Until space travel becomes a common occurrence for people, aliens and spaceships will always seem like tomorrow. Glorified go-carts seems more dated and in need of attention. Just because a ride exists, doesn't mean you have to love it. Focus on the rides you like.If NO one was riding a ride, they'd do something about it, but there still appears to be an audience for SGE.
I completely agree with you. Though in all honesty id like to see the Speedway and Stitch removed and Monsters Inc Laugh Floor moved to the Studios(why MK? Why???)
There are a number of things wrong in Tomorrowland, but sadly there are more pressing issues in the other three parks that need to be addressed first.
 

slappy magoo

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I only rode it once, maybe a year after it first opened. Maybe my memory is hazy, or maybe they changed something since then. But the thing I remember as particularly loathsome was some of the extemporaneous dialogue in the attraction that was supposed to sound like it was coming from children who were experiencing the attraction at the same time you are. "Look, it's Stitch!" "He's cooooool!" "(tee hee) He's fuuuuuuny." My feeling at the time was, if the experience has to tell you itself that it is cool and funny, then it is neither. It remeinded me of the "Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie" episode of The Simpsons, the idea that they are so sure they naield exactly what morons like us in the general public want. To me, it was a level of condescension that made me feel, even if I were a kid at the time, I'd think that I was being treated like I was an idiot, that I couldn't form my own opinion of what I was experiencing, and could be swayed by pre-recorded voices TELLING me how I felt about it.
 

Matt_Black

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I can't get on board with all the SGE hate. The biggest issue I have in TL is the Speedway. Until space travel becomes a common occurrence for people, aliens and spaceships will always seem like tomorrow. Glorified go-carts seems more dated and in need of attention. Just because a ride exists, doesn't mean you have to love it. Focus on the rides you like.If NO one was riding a ride, they'd do something about it, but there still appears to be an audience for SGE.

By the same extent, though, there also appears to be an audience for the Speedway.
 

Goofyernmost

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Did you think before going on like "how bad could it be?" or "It can't be that bad" and then found out it scares kids, is uncomfortable and smells bad?

If SGE and the alien encounter are not for little kids, why is it in the Magic Kingdom?
Our over protected kids are afraid of everything these days, or at the very least unable to handle things that frighten them. If everything were built for them, man would that place be boring.

I can't get on board with all the SGE hate. The biggest issue I have in TL is the Speedway. Until space travel becomes a common occurrence for people, aliens and spaceships will always seem like tomorrow. Glorified go-carts seems more dated and in need of attention. Just because a ride exists, doesn't mean you have to love it. Focus on the rides you like.If NO one was riding a ride, they'd do something about it, but there still appears to be an audience for SGE.
Pretend for a minute that you are 6 to 10 years old. Driving a car IS your tomorrow. It is one of the very few opportunities that a young kid gets to get behind the wheel of a powered vehicle. We as adults get so wrapped up in our own worlds that we are not able to remember what fun it was back then to have that chance. It is the extreme opposite of the whole park is for kids. We want to have the speedway closed down because we no longer have an interest in traveling at 3 mph... well friends... it isn't intended for us. Go to what you like, skip what you don't and leave things alone. Because we don't like something is totally irrelevant.
 

Matt_Black

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Pretend for a minute that you are 6 to 10 years old. Driving a car IS your tomorrow. It is one of the very few opportunities that a young kid gets to get behind the wheel of a powered vehicle. We as adults get so wrapped up in our own worlds that we are not able to remember what fun it was back then to have that chance. It is the extreme opposite of the whole park is for kids. We want to have the speedway closed down because we no longer have an interest in traveling at 3 mph... well friends... it isn't intended for us. Go to what you like, skip what you don't and leave things alone. Because we don't like something is totally irrelevant.

And that's fair. However, the look is dated, and the cars continue to belch out smoke. I think you can keep the speedway but make it in line with the new technologies that are coming out for cars.
 

morningstar

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Plenty of adults liked it too. It had just enough insane stuff to hook in the right audience.

Unfortunately the Stitch in the ride only has the brattiness of the character, not the curiosity and wonder and eventual loyalty. Stitch from the movie is to Stitch from the ride as Figment from the original Imagination is to the current.
 

BobConnor

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Original Poster
And if you think it's bad now... wait till that installment. Yawn!!! To be honest you sound much more like an accountant at Disney then an Imagineer. No special effects, they offend me. Even though I am basing my offense on someone elses opinion and not my own.

Well I did have several accounting classes in the past and have done some financial work. By the way I didn't say I hated SGE, I just wondered why if so many people don't like it, why is it there?

Agree about the speedway too, you can get that at Kennywood and maybe it could be themed to a Tron ride or a Test Track Junior.
 

Goofyernmost

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And that's fair. However, the look is dated, and the cars continue to belch out smoke. I think you can keep the speedway but make it in line with the new technologies that are coming out for cars.
I have no doubt that an update on equipment would be a good thing for the environment as a whole, but, I also am a person that remembers the smell of gasoline (leaded) and oil burning in my childhood. To the point that if I get behind a car that is burning oil, I immediately flash back to my youth. Not enough of a reason to not update it, but I really don't have a problem with it. With millions and millions of cars on the road every minute of every day, I don't think that the Speedway is having much of an impact on anything.

But the noise and something to simulate a real auto is necessary to make that experience for a kid, just a little bit more special and lasting in the memory.
 

MDactor1980

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Pretend for a minute that you are 6 to 10 years old. Driving a car IS your tomorrow.

I hadn't thought of it that way!

It is one of the very few opportunities that a young kid gets to get behind the wheel of a powered vehicle. We as adults get so wrapped up in our own worlds that we are not able to remember what fun it was back then to have that chance. It is the extreme opposite of the whole park is for kids. We want to have the speedway closed down because we no longer have an interest in traveling at 3 mph... well friends... it isn't intended for us. Go to what you like, skip what you don't and leave things alone. Because we don't like something is totally irrelevant.

I totally hear you, but I also grew up in an area with at least 3 options for go-cart tracks, so it lessened the appeal for something similar at WDW. I always feel that DIsney needs to be a cut above, but then again look at something like the Carousel, which is in every carnival and even malls and plazas around the world. I guess it's more of a personal issue, and I should just suck it up like the people hating on Stitch.
 

Car01:)

New Member
I wish someone would poll some children about this attraction. The 3 or 4 times I've experienced it, the kids around us loved it. And they let out a hearty and giggly "ewwwwww" when the smell kicks in.

I will admit that unless we really need to kill time, we do skip SGE. But I certainly don't hate it.

No offense OP, but as some have said, those are bold assumptions to make without ever experiencing the attraction.
 

Car01:)

New Member
Ok, wasn't sure bout the ride myself until this year and went on it. My 5 year old and 14 year old experienced it along w/ my husband...waste of space! I luv all things Disney but this was just plain dumb. Half the time the lights were out and u could see nothing. We luv Stitch and the animatronics or lack there of w/ Stitch was basically him on a rod and not even rotating a full 360. So much could have been done w/ it. Maybe while he is loose have him pop out of certain places. No, in the dark and pretending he's roaming-lame. Unbelievable and very disappointing cause we luv Stitch. My 5 yr old wasn't necessarily scared just didn't get it. My 14 yr old like us will never waste the time. We went in peak season this past week over the 4th of July and no line was present, now we know why!!
 

DGRYAN1977

Member
Ok, wasn't sure bout the ride myself until this year and went on it. My 5 year old and 14 year old experienced it along w/ my husband...waste of space! I luv all things Disney but this was just plain dumb. Half the time the lights were out and u could see nothing. We luv Stitch and the animatronics or lack there of w/ Stitch was basically him on a rod and not even rotating a full 360. So much could have been done w/ it. Maybe while he is loose have him pop out of certain places. No, in the dark and pretending he's roaming-lame. Unbelievable and very disappointing cause we luv Stitch. My 5 yr old wasn't necessarily scared just didn't get it. My 14 yr old like us will never waste the time. We went in peak season this past week over the 4th of July and no line was present, now we know why!!

Being in the dark is the whole point of it. Its to screw with your senses
 

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