When is it "too friendly"? Ladies, what do you say?

FettFan

FettFan

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aristo_cat said:
I'd like some input from the fellow gals on WDW Magic about this curious situation.

My friend and I went to Epcot on July 3rd and we stopped by the Morocco beverage stand (can't say I know the exact name of it right now) and there were two young men running the booth and one of them was being very inappropriate with my friend. I struggle over whether he was being serious or actually "trolling" because he was so heavy handed with his delivery. At one point he told my friend she looked too young to order alcohol and asked her what her "secret" was. Fine.

But...then he insisted on knowing how long we were in town and when we were planning on leaving. All of this before he even moved to serve her her beer. We said we were from around and leaving that very day and he kept saying "tonight? tonight?" and implying he wanted to meet up with us later on at some point. My friend kept asking him for her beverage (now we are here about 10-15 minutes longer than we need to be) and when he finally poured it he took another two minutes peeling the label from the bottle and affixing it to her glass as he asked more personal questions. My friend, getting annoyed, insisted that she have her beverage and told him this was now crossing the line into "bad service". His counterpart by the way was steering clear of the situation, he was actually watching with a worried smile. The guy would not let go of the drink as she was trying to take it from his hand. When he finally relinquished it we happily walked off but you could hear him keep asking when we were leaving and then he started to laugh in what I would describe as a "menacing" tone.

Being flirtatious is fine, it's welcome in most cases. But something about this interaction left us both feeling a little weird. He was being very forward and his demeanor was rather unsettling. The fact that his partner was not getting involved and simply looked over at me with a confused look on his face is telling that this guy is always doing this sort of thing. I debated telling someone in management but I decided to let it go because maybe something got lost in translation.

Has anyone ever experienced park employees trying to get them to meet with them after hours or being just a little too "friendly"?
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To quote my grandfather..."It's because they hire all them dang foreigners with their loose liberal morals."


And for a serious answer...yeah. Foreigners are definitely not shy when it comes to sexuality. And they are freakin creepy as hell.
 
FettFan

FettFan

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fam said:
as I am now a 33 year old married male...the number of dudes hitting on me has seemed to decrease but...i feel your pain ladies...foreign creepy guys can sometimes be scarier than the domestic ones.
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I just laughed out loud.
 
FettFan

FettFan

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aristo_cat said:
Yes the whole thing was very buffalo bill-esque in his tone and demeanor. I think the poor guy really has no idea how creepy it comes out. o_O
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That does it. I'm so taking my iPod and a large speaker and standing next to this drink stand dressed as Jay.
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acishere

acishere

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So I gave this scenario to my girlfriend and she said she would have simply told the guy that he was being creepy and to either let go of the drink or she can take his picture and show it to guest relations. She likes to be blunt with people who behave like that. It could be a cultural difference and they need to get the message as plainly as possible. Personally I would have reported him no matter what.

That is simply not how a cast member should behave on the job. He is in Epcot and behaving like a pervy doorman at a nightclub is just plain inappropriate.
 
Raven66

Raven66

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DARN IT why are there no creepy guys flirting with me?? No one has even pealed a label in my direction. I think I'm gonna go hang out around the Morocco pavilion next time we go. :D I know it's a serious situation, but I'm old so I get a little giddy when I get flirted with.
 
NiarrNDisney

NiarrNDisney

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Well I am afraid to say it but on 3 different occasions my girlfriends (friends that are girls) have also run into issues with the male CM's from Morocco being very pushy, rude with them or down right inappropriate. We have mentioned this to the Mouse but I think it's time that they go through some sexual harrasment training so they learn what behavior is acceptable.
 
tongaloosh

tongaloosh

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Report him. Cultural differences or not, he needs to know that what he did was inappropriate. Most especially for a Disney CM.

I had a similar experience one time at the pavilion. I was getting food from the little QSR place at the pavilion's entrance, and one of the guys behind the counter kept chatting me up and asking me all sorts of questions, like where I was from, how long I was in town, and saying that he wanted to meet up with me after work. I turned him down, then avoided the pavilion for a good time afterwards (I'm kind of shy about these things, lol). Happily, the past couple of times I've visited, I've had no other issues. So, while I didn't take my own advice :oops: I say you should still report it. Hoping he'll figure it out or that someone else will talk to him won't help the next person he approaches.
 
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AintNoOtherMan

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It sounds creepy. Honestly, you should report him. Not everyone is smart enough to say no. Sadly, there could be someone who makes a stupid decision and their life could be ruined.

Even if it is cultural differences (which it probably is), still report him. It is his job to learn these things when he comes to a new country with a different culture.
 
Sped2424

Sped2424

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Its too friendly whenever you feel uncomfortable, he was out of line and should have respected that you and your friend really just wanted your drinks!
 
MarkTwain

MarkTwain

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I can say as an Epcot CM who has shared the CP bus with many an international cast member - the Morocco pavilion is infamous for this. The gossip is that many Moroccans are desperate for US citizenship and see such behavior as a means of obtaining it. Perhaps stereotypical but it seems possible as I've heard about this many times. I've also heard (but can't confirm) that because the Moroccan pavilion is owned by the Moroccan government, the employees there go through a separate hiring process. Not sure about this though as I've never asked one.
 
Todd L

Todd L

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MOXOMUMD said:
Just wanted to add my two cents. Pulling a label off a bottle of beer and giving it to someone means they are looking for a hookup for a little "somethinsomethin". A friend owns a small dive bar and we laugh at all the college students that try this. Sorry to hear about this creeper but on the other side of the coin, why did you stay there for 10-15 minutes trying to get your drink? I would have told him, well, *:$×%!(%$;* the drink and walked away.
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That was my first thought too but being that Im in my mid 40's I wasnt sure that meant anything nowdays.... That was the thing to do when I was in my 20's. Peeling the label off a bottle of beer meant your wanted a to spend the night with someone......wow. We Were REALLY stupid in the 80's !!
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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mergatroid said:
Just out of curiosity are there any pavillions where the roles are reversed and the ladies of that nation offer 'skin tickets' to the visiting males? I of course ask only so I and my fellow gentlemen can avoid these dens of iniquity ;)
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I've heard some things about the Norwegian girls ;)
 
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Mark In KY

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Sadly I've gone well past the age where I get flirted with, hit on, propositioned or even approached. But back in the '70s during my junior year in college on a Spring Break trip to Daytona I had the utmost pleasure in doing some canoodling with one of the young ladies who played Aurora.
 
The Mom

The Mom

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I agree that they need some training in cultural differences. Just as I know that behavior that is perfectly acceptable and innocent here would make me appear to be a loose woman in another culture. And behavior that would be considered risque here (going topless at a beach, for example) is acceptable in other countries, and doesn't mean that a woman who does so is looking to give a guy a good time.

These guys have probably heard that all US women are immoral and will hook-up at the drop of a hat.
 

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