When are you going to fix that yeti?

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
It would be ok.. and it is "ok." But if the ride never had a moving yeti it would have never even been mentioned in the same sentence as the true Disney classics. Currently, it's just a rollercoaster. It's alright, but as far as themed attractions go it is every bit of middle tier.
The queue is pretty well themed as is the lift hill within I thought.
 

BlakeW39

Well-Known Member
The queue is pretty well themed as is the lift hill within I thought.

The queue and lift hill are the build up. They set up the premise of ride before the the rest of the attraction unfolds before you. Once you climb the forbidden mountain, you are tresspassing. And mother nature lashes back with ultimate force. That doesn't happen in the current version of the ride. The yeti merely prevents you from getting to Everest by messing with the track, but it doesn't lash out or force you back down the mountain. It's totally anticlimactic and that is because the ride is missing its star.

Yes the yeti only appears for a few seconds... but it's a rollercoaster. It's fast paced. Every major element of the attraction outside the lift hill only lasts a matter of seconds. The drop for instance. So the fact that the yeti appears during a short time frame is not evidence it isn't important. The ride's drop is important and also only lasts a couple seconds. Seeing the yeti rip out your track....a couple seconds. Going backwards. A couple seconds. The yeti isn't unique in this regard. Coasters are fast paced and every important element of them lasts for a short duration, including the ride itself in relative terms. Top Thrill Dragster at CP lasted like 15 seconds total... but the ride was still impactful.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
I hate to admit that but since it’s only seen for a few seconds and some never even knew it moved when it did I tend to agree.

If it had never moved and was static and strobed like today we wouldn’t be asking for Disney to make it move, it would be ok.

I’d love to see it move again but it’s just never going to happen and honestly I’d rather them spend that money on something else that is more needed
And you just said exactly what they needed to get away with doing nothing... Unfortunately that "something else that is needed" will probably just be another Meet and Greet or DVC sales booth...nothing of substance....so at this point I would rather them actually fix the problem with something as good or better....at least give it a finale that works with the storyline of the attraction...not a strobe light....and why is there a strobe light in a cave anyway?
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
And you just said exactly what they needed to get away with doing nothing... Unfortunately that "something else that is needed" will probably just be another Meet and Greet or DVC sales booth...nothing of substance....so at this point I would rather them actually fix the problem with something as good or better....at least give it a finale that works with the storyline of the attraction...not a strobe light....and why is there a strobe light in a cave anyway?
“Something else that is needed” did not imply a meet and greet or a dvc booth. I meant other attractions. If the money they need to spend fixing the yeti could be spent on another impressive AA in a new attraction rather than no AA there, I’d rather them just do that instead at this point.

The yeti is still a massive and impressive looking thing within the ride. I loved when it swiped down but if I wasn’t looking right at it in those few seconds I would have never known it did vs the disco strobe today

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see them fix it, but I don’t see it ever happening.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
“Something else that is needed” did not imply a meet and greet or a dvc booth. I meant other attractions. If the money they need to spend fixing the yeti could be spent on another impressive AA in a new attraction rather than no AA there, I’d rather them just do that instead at this point.
But that's the kicker. They just won't spend the money either way. There's just about zero chance Disney earmarks any money that would be available for the yeti fix, to something of substance. They have no intentions of fixing it or building something else with that money. Why? Because too many fans seem to not care. And that leads to things like Rise having effects down for how long now?
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
But that's the kicker. They just won't spend the money either way. There's just about zero chance Disney earmarks any money that would be available for the yeti fix, to something of substance. They have no intentions of fixing it or building something else with that money. Why? Because too many fans seem to not care. And that leads to things like Rise having effects down for how long now?

The Yeti was doomed the moment Iger took over as CEO. He never has understood and never will understand theme parks as anything but places full of walking ATMs waiting for him to make a withdrawal.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
“Something else that is needed” did not imply a meet and greet or a dvc booth. I meant other attractions. If the money they need to spend fixing the yeti could be spent on another impressive AA in a new attraction rather than no AA there, I’d rather them just do that instead at this point.

The yeti is still a massive and impressive looking thing within the ride. I loved when it swiped down but if I wasn’t looking right at it in those few seconds I would have never known it did vs the disco strobe today

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see them fix it, but I don’t see it ever happening.
so to mention "it doesn't matter" will never make fixing the major show element in a headlining attraction... and that money won't be saved for something else...it will just go into a profit column and that is that.
and meanwhile those passing comments of "the ride is fine without it" actually spread and get heard...
Disney created the standard and this current regime has not lived up to it.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
"Coming soon: Yeti, the Projection! A newly re-imagined encounter with the Yeti that only Disney could pull off!"
I hate to say it. But the projection tech they used for Jack Sparrow in that Pirates encounter thing they did in the studios back in he day, would be much better than a strobe light.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
It categorically affects the ride. It was the narrative climax of the attraction. Without it, the ride's premise falls flat. You don't witness the power of mother nature lashing back. All the yeti does is rip your track out and then you have to leave. There's no sense of spectacle or threat in it. There's no "narrow escape."

Also it was the ride's best show scene. So EE goes from being a coaster with a major show scene to a coaster without a major show scene. In my opinion that's a big deal because the yeti is what made the ride a top tier story coaster. Without a major show scene all the ride really has in the way of theming is set dressing.

The "story" in story coaster is hampered by the ride's third act being neutered.
There's impending threat of the unseen the entire ride.
The Yeti is/was only seen at the last second before the end.
The ride works the entire time up until passing the Yeti, and it still works - even if the Yeti wasn't there.
 

BlakeW39

Well-Known Member
There's impending threat of the unseen the entire ride.
The Yeti is/was only seen at the last second before the end.
The ride works the entire time up until passing the Yeti, and it still works - even if the Yeti wasn't there.

There's a looming threat, but nothing ends up happening. It 100% falls flat. The climax is just gone. It's like if you took out the final act in a movie. Of course it affects the ride. Any time you take out a major element of a story (and it was factually a major element... arguably the only major show scene on the ride), the story will be changed as a result.

Yes the yeti was at the end...but that's the point. It's the ride's finale. The ride until that point is still pretty good but it's no longer more than the sum of its parts.
 

JMcMahonEsq

Well-Known Member
It categorically affects the ride. It was the narrative climax of the attraction. Without it, the ride's premise falls flat. You don't witness the power of mother nature lashing back. All the yeti does is rip your track out and then you have to leave. There's no sense of spectacle or threat in it. There's no "narrow escape."

Also it was the ride's best show scene. So EE goes from being a coaster with a major show scene to a coaster without a major show scene. In my opinion that's a big deal because the yeti is what made the ride a top tier story coaster. Without a major show scene all the ride really has in the way of theming is set dressing.

The "story" in story coaster is hampered by the ride's third act being neutered.
It categorically doesn’t affect the ride. Because other than some personal subjective opinions from a very small minority of fanatics and message board posters, there has been no real effect on ridership. When they yeti stopped working so many moons ago, you didn’t see a drop off in ridership. You didn’t see people skipping the ride bc the yeti wasn’t working. You didn’t see all of a sudden the line drop to walk on status and no one using fast passes (or now lightening lane.).

The ride is a pretty consistent draw for people at the parks, with multip repeat riders. The idea that Disney should shut down a major ride, robbing the vast majority of park attendees of the experience and spend money for something that isn’t really missed is absurd.
 

John park hopper

Well-Known Member
The ride is a pretty consistent draw for people at the parks, with multip repeat riders. The idea that Disney should shut down a major ride, robbing the vast majority of park attendees of the experience and spend money for something that isn’t really missed is absurd.

Why would it have to be stopped for any great length of time, it could certainly fix it at night when there are no guests.
 
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ppete1975

Well-Known Member
But it wasn't always static and it has always been there. That's a pretty weak take.

I agree they over complicate it. I don't agree with the cost part. They are NOT going to bring it back to original "A" mode. Yes, that would cost too much money. But they can find a solution that isn't so lame. Sure it will cost money. But it won't be nearly as expensive as what is reported. Or at least it doesn't have to be.
A weak take lol. Only about 1 percent of people that go to Disney world ever saw it work, only probably 5 percent of the general public ever knew it did work. There are lots of rides at logs of parks that had effects that didnt work that only lasted a few weeks, and this is an effect that didnt work. They could completely remove him and it doesnt change anything. Example Haunted mansion, has had at least 2 effects removed due to they looked like crap and didnt work, but its not the only one. I appreciate they swing for the fences and dont always do the easy copy cat thing thats at all parks, because they usually work. This one didnt, and doesnt affect the story.

I think a better lighting package and a simple weighted arm that moved then reset would give the same effect. But for the people that want the original effect fixed, in todays current ROI disney culture I dont see it. I would love to be wrong. But would it be something that would really draw people? OR would putting that money towards more attractions be better.

And since it goes over the track, can Animal Kingdom in its current state work well with EE closed for a lengthy time. Which goes back to more rides are needed.
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
How people can defend Disney on this blows my mind.

The yeti absolutely effects the quality of the ride. In a major way. Without it, Everest is not one of the best storycoasters in the world, it's entirely anticlimatic from a story perspective and middling from a coaster perspective.

If the yeti had never been there, Everest would not have been as popular as it was in 2006 and would have never even been CONSIDERED on the same level as a TOT or even a DL BTMR. Because it certainly isn't now.

Hagrid's kicks its @$$.
Did you ever see it work? 99 percent of the people on here havent.
Everyone has their own opinion, and you are certainly allowed to yours.
To me its still the best story coaster in the world. Especially for people that have no idea what the ride is and dont know it goes backwards or what will happen. The re-rideability is super high, its one of those rides that you can just go again and again. The theming is spot on. You could have the same effect with just sound through your headset in the seats, I think some disney fans just want to complain about something. To say that one effect makes it either at 10+ or a 2 is ludicrous.

Everest is still super popular and the yeti hasnt worked in decades, so clearly it hasnt hurt its popularity, and look at the smiles from the people that get off.
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
It would be ok.. and it is "ok." But if the ride never had a moving yeti it would have never even been mentioned in the same sentence as the true Disney classics. Currently, it's just a rollercoaster. It's alright, but as far as themed attractions go it is every bit of middle tier.
The queue is themed more than 90 percent of most rides, let alone the actual ride.
 

DisneyDebRob

Well-Known Member
Did you ever see it work? 99 percent of the people on here havent.
Everyone has their own opinion, and you are certainly allowed to yours.
To me its still the best story coaster in the world. Especially for people that have no idea what the ride is and dont know it goes backwards or what will happen. The re-rideability is super high, its one of those rides that you can just go again and again. The theming is spot on. You could have the same effect with just sound through your headset in the seats, I think some disney fans just want to complain about something. To say that one effect makes it either at 10+ or a 2 is ludicrous.

Everest is still super popular and the yeti hasnt worked in decades, so clearly it hasnt hurt its popularity, and look at the smiles from the people that get off.
I think that says more about the people not really caring. They can gut 4-5 rooms out of the haunted mansion and put screens up and there will be long waits outside the ride. They can change PotC to make it not make as much sense as what it was intended to be and there will be a hour or more long wait. One happened,one didn’t but my point is that it doesn’t matter to most people. They are on vacation and will go on anything and enjoy themselves.
Here’s the link to the original ride from 2006. Around the 3:45 mark the play the yeti a few times in a row in slow motion. If people don’t think it mattered well I have nothing to say. It made a good coaster great. It felt like you were just about being grabbed. Added a whole other level of excitement. I rode it 4-5 times back then and it was the best experience on a coaster that I ever rode. I think the people that did experience it will say the same thing. Others that never experienced it will have an opinion but not doing it makes the opinion a little less valid because I know if they did their opinion would change.

 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
I think that says more about the people not really caring. They can gut 4-5 rooms out of the haunted mansion and put screens up and there will be long waits outside the ride. They can change PotC to make it not make as much sense as what it was intended to be and there will be a hour or more long wait. One happened,one didn’t but my point is that it doesn’t matter to most people. They are on vacation and will go on anything and enjoy themselves.
Here’s the link to the original ride from 2006. Around the 3:45 mark the play the yeti a few times in a row in slow motion. If people don’t think it mattered well I have nothing to say. It made a good coaster great. It felt like you were just about being grabbed. Added a whole other level of excitement. I rode it 4-5 times back then and it was the best experience on a coaster that I ever rode. I think the people that did experience it will say the same thing. Others that never experienced it will have an opinion but not doing it makes the opinion a little less valid because I know if they did their opinion would change.

I agree with you that since you rode it your opinion does matter more than the other 99 percent that never did. As you said it was slowed down in the video because it was just a micro second of action. My comments about it not mattering is as a story as told you have the beginning middle end. There is still a defined ending to the ride. You escape the mountain. The effect could be as thrilling with sounds and maybe an arm coming down. Even if there was nothing the impact of seeing daylight and getting out of the cave tells the story. The original doesnt have to work for the ride to still be an amazing ride. The reality is just the ROI isnt there. If I was in charge i wouldnt fix it either. Would i change the disco strobe light and maybe add a moving arm swooping down or some kind of movement, sure. But the original just isnt feasible. The only comparison I can think of is one of the two most idiotic disney theme park decisions in history. Which was disneyland removing the people mover for rocket rods. The concept sounded great but the track couldnt support it among other issues. So they had to completely abandon that, bbecause there wasnt anything financially viable to fix it. Basically the Yeti is the same thing, its basically an abandoned effect, instead of a ride and its not coming back.

Now could we get a different style of yeti... sure a simpler but moving yeti arm or something, but they could rebuild the people mover in disney land as well. One would be a pr thing and get tons of attention and happy guests and another capacity eater. The other would get some publicity for a bit, but wouldnt add long term riders.
 

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