What's Still On and What's Now Off

TeriofTerror

Well-Known Member
I like the sound of this but if this thread were limited to posts from legitimate insiders, it’d be 2 pages instead of 94.

(1) People want to discuss Disney’s reopening plans. (2) These plans are based on the severity of the virus. People who totally disagree about (2) can’t constructively discuss (1).
I hear you. But can't people who just want to argue/speculate do that in the Reopening Estimates thread? ;)
 

412

Well-Known Member
I hear you. But can't people who just want to argue/speculate do that in the Reopening Estimates thread? ;)

I appreciate your optimistic thinking! :)

I gotta ask:

Is “412”...”the 412”? As in I was born and raised before there was a 724

If so...that’s great

Good catch!

Back on topic, we know that Disney is evaluating several options for what projects will continue and which will be delayed or cancelled. Does anyone know when Disney will make those decisions? Are particular projects already certainly cancelled?
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
Can we shift the discussion back to WDW? Isn't there another general COVID-19 thread here where you can go debate testing, data, etc.?

Yes there is. And some people posting here have already been told - in that thread - that the back and forth "this is no worse than the flu/yes it is " debate would not be tolerated. Along with political statements. And a bunch of other stuff, like conspiracy theories. So they just move to another thread and start all over again.

I feel as if I've been playing Whack-A-Mole for the past couple of weeks.
 
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the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Yes there is. And some people posting here have already been told - in that thread - that the back and forth "this is no worse than the flu/yes it is " debate would not be tolerated. Along with political statements. And a bunch of other stuff. So they just move to another thread and start all over again.

I feel as if I've been playing Whack-A-Mole for the past couple of weeks.
And on the misinformation front, your and @wdwmagic ’s work has been appreciated.
 

Joel

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Yes there is. And some people posting here have already been told - in that thread - that the back and forth "this is no worse than the flu/yes it is " debate would not be tolerated. Along with political statements. And a bunch of other stuff. So they just move to another thread and start all over again.

I feel as if I've been playing Whack-A-Mole for the past couple of weeks.
You deserve a vacation, but you've been deemed an essential worker here and there's nowhere to go anyway. ;)
 

rreading

Well-Known Member
I now have multiple corroborating sources that have informed me of some specific things.

1) There is a worst-case scenario plan for WDW that is either developed or under development which prioritizes maintenance for the remainder of 2020 if the parks and resort are unable to reopen. This would see certain areas of the resort under much less upkeep in order to limit costs. This might also see many of the roads closed at WDW to public access.
2) Disney is currently in talks with the NBA to resume the NBA season / postseason with the players finishing all games at the ESPN complex. Details are being negotiated, and could fall through, but players would likely stay at Caribbean Beach Resort with Cayman, Sea Breeze, and Victory Way closed except to NBA and Disney vehicles. The aim would be to restart the NBA in late May to early June. Again, this could fall through, but it is being worked on and I believe some details have already begun to leak.
3) DeSantis has been in communication recently with Disney, Universal, IAAPA, etc, and is keen on getting the parks up and running as soon as safely possible. This is a marked departure from the approach the California government is taking. While Disneyland may remain closed for a long time, there is actually optimism that WDW may be able to reopen during the summer with intense restrictions and limitations.
4) The "Secure Circuit" protocol is still the preferred plan for reopening. Secure Circuit does the following:
  • Magic Kingdom reopens with limited capacity, no theaters, no parades, no castle shows, no fireworks and sanitized ride vehicles after every guest exit.
  • Magic Kingdom resorts reopen with strict distancing guidelines in place.
  • Monorails would not operate.
  • Ferries and boat transportation would operate with distancing in place.
  • Health checks would be introduced at every security checkpoint. This would include temperature checks and Q&A (including locations you have traveled to in the past 14 days).
  • Guests will have to sign additional legal forms clearing Disney of liability for potential exposure to COVID-19.
  • EPCOT will remain closed if other parks are able to reopen prior to September.
  • Hollywood Studios reopens with limited capacity, no indoor theaters, no parades, no fireworks, and sanitized ride vehicles after every guest exit.
  • Animal Kingdom reopens with limited capacity, no indoor theaters, no parades, no Rivers of Light, and sanitized ride vehicles after every guest exit. Maharajah Jungle Trek would remain closed, and no close encounters with any animals at any place in the park will be permitted. Details about Animal Kingdom are still being developed.
  • Transportation guidelines are still being developed.
  • Dining guidelines are still being developed.
  • No character meet and greets.
  • No character dining.
  • Water parks will not reopen while Secure Circuit is in place.
  • DVC details are still being developed.
  • Sanitation stations will be available throughout the parks, as well as directions on the ground to keep guests moving in proper directions for limited pedestrian crossing.
  • It is likely, though not officially determined, that masks will be a requirement for adults.
  • Magic Bands mandatory for all guests, fingerprints temporarily on hold.
  • Non-MK resorts are unlikely to reopen until Phase 2 begins (Secure Circuit is for Phase 1).
  • Disney is currently evaluating every single ride and queue to determine how and if it can operate with strict distancing guidelines. This includes determining how to move people through the queue in a safe manner even if virtual queue is in place for that particular ride. For example, even just moving through the queue of Pirates exposes guests to whatever guests passed through the queue 20 seconds prior.
  • Chapek ultimately makes the call on when to reopen and how, once DeSantis gives the green light... so while the protocols for Secure Circuit have been developed, there may be changes from the top.
  • What's on and what's off for future construction is now largely on how much and when Disney receives US government money, as well as the realities of the economy on the other side of this situation. Expect Disney to NOT announce cancellations of projects in 2020, but also for some projects to simply sit with no announcement. Disney is likely to be very bearish in 2020 until we get Q4 economic data.
Best regards - hope everyone is safe.

I understand that the media watches this forum for insider information but this is the first time that I’ve seen a poster’s info hitting the front page of Apple News. Congrats!
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pdude81

Well-Known Member
So I'm seeing articles speculating about Florida residents being able to go to WDW first. Is it possible that they start with no hotels at all in the beginning with just local day-ticket holders and then move into a different phase? Or are people just throwing "stuff" at the wall and seeing what will stick.
 

pdude81

Well-Known Member
That kind of stops them from having to decide which reservations stay and which go. Or if Florida is still trying to have people from NY/NJ isolate then not banning people from one state versus another. I have no idea how you open a dvc resort that's booked to capacity with social distancing.

For now I'm still holding out hope for one of these therapeutic treatment trials to go well enough for an emergency approval. A dream is a wish... or something like that
 

Aries1975

Well-Known Member
That kind of stops them from having to decide which reservations stay and which go. Or if Florida is still trying to have people from NY/NJ isolate then not banning people from one state versus another. I have no idea how you open a dvc resort that's booked to capacity with social distancing.

For now I'm still holding out hope for one of these therapeutic treatment trials to go well enough for an emergency approval. A dream is a wish... or something like that

If they go that route, I am hoping they announce soon for everyone's piece of mind. It would be difficult to open DVC with a good portion of members (NY/NJ/CT/PA) strongly discouraged from travel - and unwelcome (NY/NJ) in Florida.
 

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