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[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, the E Ticket status of an attraction is not really subject to your "feeling" about it. Expedition: Everest isn't any less an E Ticket just because it made my mom so dizzy she'll never ride it again. And it certainly wouldn't be any more of an E Ticket just by swapping out the Yeti for a Wampa.

"Innovation" isn't really the barometer either. The Haunted Mansion was an E-Ticket despite being arguably a step backward from the ambition and innovation of Pirates of the Caribbean. A few years later The Hall of Presidents was granted an E Ticket. Ambitious, expensive, but not especially innovative.

You don't like the sequel films - that's fine. I don't particularly care for Star Wars at all. But I won't pretend this attraction isn't doing the most just because of that. Your assessment smacks not of you being discerning but more of you being unable to be objective.

Is this “straight from WDI”?!?

I do love a good “internal” lecture.

Everest…is missing 1/3 of the ride. That’s the problem there…it’s ride system still would fit the E…but it’s incomplete.

Listen…they can charge $15 for it…and people will pay it…but it’s just the hype machine. If that’s all it takes for “E”…then I can’t argue that.

Which kinda makes the classification pointless…because until September tickets were gone. If that’s a “thing” again…then we’re all lost now.

As you pointed out - it’s rather ambiguous. Is Peter Pan an “E” because of a 75 minute line? No.
Navi? No.
Mine train? No

None of these things meet any tech criteria (Navi the most)…they’re just stuck in parks that aren’t ahead of the aggregate crowds now.

The spent a lot on Rise…just wish they had gotten more of a lasting impression than gringotts…or frankly the great movie ride.

Doesn’t stick to the ribs. It’s been a year and I can only really remember maybe 5 brief parts?
Cancel that…we actually went on late a few months ago. I had LITERALLY forgotten I had.
Jeez

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Is this “straight from WDI”?!?

I do love a good “internal” lecture.

Everest…is missing 1/3 of the ride. That’s the problem there…it’s ride system still would fit the E…but it’s incomplete.

Listen…they can charge $15 for it…and people will pay it…but it’s just the hype machine. If that’s all it takes for “E”…then I can’t argue that.

Which kinda makes the classification pointless…because until September tickets were gone. If that’s a “thing” again…then we’re all lost now.

As you pointed out - it’s rather ambiguous. Is Peter Pan an “E” because of a 75 minute line? No.
Navi? No.
Mine train? No

None of these things meet any tech criteria (Navi the most)…they’re just stuck in parks that aren’t ahead of the aggregate crowds now.

The spent a lot on Rise…just wish they had gotten more of a lasting impression than gringotts…or frankly the great movie ride.

Doesn’t stick to the ribs. It’s been a year and I can only really remember maybe 5 brief parts?
Cancel that…we actually went on late a few months ago. I had LITERALLY forgotten I had.
Jeez

Either you quoted the wrong post or you're just making up your own points to argue against. I certainly didn't say anything about wait times, Peter Pan, ILL, tech criteria . . . This take is pretty bogus and it seems clear you know it.

Again, it's fine if you didn't care for Rise of the Resistance. But it's very, very obviously an E Ticket. Your lack of perspective here is verging on confounding, and your posting style verging on erratic.

 

[crazy4disney]

Either you quoted the wrong post or you're just making up your own points to argue against. I certainly didn't say anything about wait times, Peter Pan, ILL, tech criteria . . . This take is pretty bogus and it seems clear you know it.

Again, it's fine if you didn't care for Rise of the Resistance. But it's very, very obviously an E Ticket. Your lack of perspective here is verging on confounding, and your posting style verging on erratic.

The ride is really really good dont get me wrong but its far from some marvel they hyped it to be imo not to mention all the issues it has you never know when you are actually gonna get the full effect of said ride....

 

[lazyboy97o]

The ride is really really good dont get me wrong but its far from some marvel they hyped it to be imo not to mention all the issues it has you never know when you are actually gonna get the full effect of said ride....

The reason you never know if effects will work is very much tied to the ambitious scope of the project.

 

[crazy4disney]

The reason you never know if effects will work is very much tied to the ambitious scope of the project.

so is that a valid excuse to have a ride not work properly?!?! come on please dont tell me you are fine with riding this and ending up with a thumbed down version of what this ride is suppose to be... its like when Navi is running in B mode...

 

[lazyboy97o]

so is that a valid excuse to have a ride not work properly?!?! come on please dont tell me you are fine with riding this and ending up with a thumbed down version of what this ride is suppose to be... its like when Navi is running in B mode...

The issue of reliability is separate from acknowledging the extent of the scope.

 

[crazy4disney]

The issue of reliability is separate from acknowledging the extent of the scope.

Well no offense part of what makes a ride great/E ticket is reliability. We been hearing for years about EE not being what it was planned bc the Yeti that you barely saw no longer works the want intended yet we are gonnagive Rise a pass after the years i
Of hype… as i said the ride is really good but to me nowhere near what was hyped etc and ill say this if you have to wait hours sometimes close to 3 and end up with a thumbed down version i would be even harsher on the ride…

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well no offense part of what makes a ride great/E ticket is reliability. We been hearing for years about EE not being what it was planned bc the Yeti that you barely saw no longer works the want intended yet we are gonnagive Rise a pass after the years i
Of hype… as i said the ride is really good but to me nowhere near what was hyped etc and ill say this if you have to wait hours sometimes close to 3 and end up with a thumbed down version i would be even harsher on the ride…

No, reliability is not part of how ticket levels are assigned. The goal is for attractions to be reliable. Nobody’s sitting there saying “We’ll say this is our D Ticket since it might not work all the time.” The decision of when to open or close an attraction due to show quality concerns is also an operational issue with varying degrees of design influence.

How long one decides to wait is also not really a factor.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The ride is really really good dont get me wrong but its far from some marvel they hyped it to be imo not to mention all the issues it has you never know when you are actually gonna get the full effect of said ride....

Yeah…there are people so desperate for “Wins” for Disney and particular WDI…that they go contrary to what the ride tells them when they get off. The ride is fine…but it changes nothing as far as the park/ride goes…and won’t age well at all. Let it play.

so is that a valid excuse to have a ride not work properly?!?! come on please dont tell me you are fine with riding this and ending up with a thumbed down version of what this ride is suppose to be... its like when Navi is running in B mode...

It is not. Not like you didn’t have time or money to do it…or SOMETHING else that maybe worked/delivered better.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, reliability is not part of how ticket levels are assigned. The goal is for attractions to be reliable. Nobody’s sitting there saying “We’ll say this is our D Ticket since it might not work all the time.” The decision of when to open or close an attraction due to show quality concerns is also an operational issue with varying degrees of design influence.

How long one decides to wait is also not really a factor.

Reliability is just another problem with the ride…it’s not the fundamental one.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I’ve ridden Rise once, and that was enough for me. Not saying I’ll never ride it again, but the desire to ride again isn’t there.

It’s an E ticket, though.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The issue of reliability is separate from acknowledging the extent of the scope.

People laud the “scope” waaayyyy too much…
It didn’t jump off the drawing board the way it was - I’m sure - intended.

Even with terrible basis/ip…the “spy” thing was just too typical.
I mean…correct if I’m wrong…but don’t we have that on star tours?
It’s like they think people are too stupid that they can’t grasp anything different? But they’re not consistent with that either in the source material. It’s a quagmire of cooks in the kitchen.
Such is life.

Now are we done? Nobody is convincing anyone or anything. The ride is divisive…it’s hard to argue that. So it completely fits Disneys “mold”.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’ve ridden Rise once, and that was enough for me. Not saying I’ll never ride it again, but the desire to ride again isn’t there.

It’s an E ticket, though.

That’s fair.

Rode it 4…once because of faith…second for QA/QC…twice after for time filler. That’s what it is for me. I’ll go on it if there isn’t a lot of effort. It’s small world.

 

[bhg469]

I’ve ridden Rise once, and that was enough for me. Not saying I’ll never ride it again, but the desire to ride again isn’t there.

It’s an E ticket, though.

Same.. I was lucky enough to get a complete show, with no down effects or AAs.. I would probably ride again if it was a short wait but I would be upset with all the non working parts regardless of any wait time.

 

[crazy4disney]

agreed its not worth getting into a debate about it but there are plenty of other rides in Disney i rather ride over and over and this honestly is not one of them... i was lucky to be down there when ride opened and grabbed a VQ by sheer luck... In November we obviously rode it again and honestly this is where DAS did help as we had breakfast in H&V and i just grabbed a DAS while we were eating and rode it after we were done with no real wait

 

[James Alucobond]

People laud the “scope” waaayyyy too much…
It didn’t jump off the drawing board the way it was - I’m sure - intended.

No one is subjectively lauding the scope, narrative, etc. They’re saying that the objective scope is such that it’s clearly an E. If it’s not an E, literally nothing is. That shouldn’t be difficult to understand or agree to.

 

[Californian Elitist]

That’s fair.

Rode it 4…once because of faith…second for QA/QC…twice after for time filler. That’s what it is for me. I’ll go on it if there isn’t a lot of effort. It’s small world.

I went on it before it opened to the public. There was a reporter with cameras standing outside the entrance capturing reactions. I had to pretend that I really enjoyed it, when I didn’t. I mean, it’s not a boring or bad ride, but it was whatever to me. I was more impressed with the queue than the actual ride.

I agree that it’s not worth the effort to ride. I’m not waiting more than an hour to ride it, and I’m certainly not willing to pay an extra fee to ride. If I had kids and they wanted to ride it, then sure. But I’m childless, so I do what I want, and Rise ain’t it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No one is subjectively lauding the scope, narrative, etc. They’re saying that the objective scope is such that it’s clearly an E. If it’s not an E, literally nothing is. That shouldn’t be difficult to understand or agree to.

Since they haven’t sold an A,B,C,D,E ticket in decades…it’s all really just an arbitrary labeling system.

I judge the results. Never doubted it on tower or splash or flight of passage. I could See the falcon being in that grouping with modifications (probably need a tad more off the platforms?)…

But I never thought that on the this. It is what it is.

I’ll not convince anyone…which means it’s time to stop.

I see Spain Epcot questions are floating around? Brazil I’m sure is right on deck…and AWAY we go…

 

[Andrew25]

Demand/Target Audience is much more of an indication of ticket level versus anything else.

• Seven Dwarfs, while designed as a D-Ticket, had an E-ticket budget and is just as popular as any other E-ticket, so it's an e-ticket in my book.
• Na'vi River is meant to be a D-ticket, but it's more of a weaker d-ticket/closer to an C-ticket... but because of its location and target audience, its a D-ticket.
• Frozen has is a D-ticket, but because of its demand, its seen as an E.

 

[SplashJacket]

The ride is really really good dont get me wrong but its far from some marvel they hyped it to be imo not to mention all the issues it has you never know when you are actually gonna get the full effect of said ride....

I feel like most the hype came from people like me who rode it and deemed it the best attraction in the world, not necessarily the Walt Disney Company, but that doesn’t fit the Disney bad bad company ambitions.