What the heck are some people wearing?

[Shouldigo12]

Wow...no disrespect, but I don't believe you are following what I am saying. You might want to check the other responses. Thank you

Then clear it up. Why did you say one thing in one post and something else in thr next?

 

[LittleBuford]

It's only inappropriate because people can't look at the female form without oversexualising it. What's the difference between wearing booty shorts with a crop top & a 2 piece bikini where there is no choice for someones butt to be half hanging out?

Here I’ll say that context can make a difference. On a beach or by a pool, I expect to see bums hanging out. In most other settings, I would be surprised (not to say scandalised or bothered) to see anyone (boy or girl, man or woman) wearing shorts that expose any cheek. But I think this is largely a non-issue, as most hot pants / booty shorts I’ve seen actually cover the bottom fully.

 

[larryz]

This reminds me of the time I was told to have a female acquaintance "cover her hair" in a middle eastern souk... and then I had to restrain that acquaintance from thrashing the religious policeman who made the comment.

My point? Acceptable dress is very culturally driven. Florida culture is considerably... more relaxed... than most other places around the world. No, it's not a beach in Rio, but it's also not a middle eastern souk.

 

[aw14]

Then clear it up. Why did you say one thing in one post and something else in thr next?

there is nothing to clear up...I did not victim blame anyone. Again not trying to be rude, but you might want to read with more care.

 

[aw14]

Here I’ll say that context can make a difference. On a beach or by a pool, I expect to see bums hanging out. In most other settings, I would be surprised (not to say scandalised) to see anyone (boy or girl, man or woman) wearing shorts that expose any cheek. But I think this is largely a non-issue, as most hot pants / booty shorts I’ve seen actually cover the bottom fully.

exactly....the context matters. At a beach/water park, it is expected and might be the "norm". Walking down Main Street, not so much.

 

[Shouldigo12]

there is nothing to clear up...I did not victim blame anyone. Again not trying to be rude, but you might want to read with more care.

You said in your reply "it isn't victim blaming". I read that pretty clearly.

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

Are they walking around a beach or the Magic Kingdom? A little context goes a long way

Why is it any different? They're both hot environments where people are entitled to dress to feel comfy. Booty shorts and a crop top really is not that offensive unless you're trying to make it so. It's the norm here in the UK, girls can wear what they want in the summer and most of the time not get snotty comments from people, or be objectified.

 

[aw14]

You said in your reply "it isn't victim blaming". I read that pretty clearly.

very good....there is no victim blaming here...thanks for keeping up

 

[aw14]

Why is it any different? They're both hot environments where people are entitled to dress to feel comfy. Booty shorts and a crop top really is not that offensive unless you're trying to make it so. It's the norm here in the UK, girls can wear what they want in the summer and most of the time not get snotty comments from people, or be objectified.

I disagree. There are locations where certain outfits are more appropriate. IMO

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

Here I’ll say that context can make a difference. On a beach or by a pool, I expect to see bums hanging out. In most other settings, I would be surprised (not to say scandalised or bothered) to see anyone (boy or girl, man or woman) wearing shorts that expose any cheek. But I think this is largely a non-issue, as most hot pants / booty shorts I’ve seen actually cover the bottom fully.

That's the difference though, you're not bothered by it, nor should anyone be.

 

[Shouldigo12]

very good....there is no victim blaming here...thanks for keeping up

So do you think clothes are a factor or not? That's what I'm confused about I said clothes are not a factor or to say it is is victim blaming, you said it isn't.

 

[aw14]

That's the difference though, you're not bothered by it, nor should anyone be.

How can you determine what others should or shouldn't be bothered by.

If I am walking down main street @ the MK, I do not believe someone should be walking around with their cheeks out. However, if I am walking at any beach, the context is different. We cannot and should not determine or project what others should feel

 

[aw14]

So do you think clothes are a factor or not? That's what I'm confused about I said clothes are not a factor or to say it is is victim blaming, you said it isn't.

Ok, last time. I have not "victim blamed" anyone. My other comment that seems to be holding you up is that I believe certain outfits are location appropriate and age appropriate.

Not hard

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

How can you determine what others should or shouldn't be bothered by.

If I am walking down main street @ the MK, I do not believe someone should be walking around with their cheeks out. However, if I am walking at any beach, the context is different. We cannot and should not determine or project what others should feel

Because there is absolutely no need to be offended by it? It's the human body. How people dress and what people do with their OWN personal appearance is nothing to do with anyone else. I could walk around in a thick winter coat when its 40* out and it still wouldn't be anyone elses business.

 

[Shouldigo12]

Ok, last time. I have not "victim blamed" anyone. My other comment that seems to be holding you up is that I believe certain outfits are location appropriate and age appropriate.

Not hard

Ok, dude. You responded to my post saying that saying clothes are a factor in sexual assault is victim blaming with "I disagree...it is not victim blaming". Thats exactly what you said. Maybe you thought I was accusing you specifically of victim blaming, I don't know. But your post says you disagree with my statement. If that wasn't what you meant then maybe you need to be clearer when you write. No disrespect.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Why is it any different? They're both hot environments where people are entitled to dress to feel comfy. Booty shorts and a crop top really is not that offensive unless you're trying to make it so. It's the norm here in the UK, girls can wear what they want in the summer and most of the time not get snotty comments from people, or be objectified.

America is at once both more prudish and more hypersexual. I blame the first for the latter.

 

[aw14]

Because there is absolutely no need to be offended by it? It's the human body. How people dress and what people do with their OWN personal appearance is nothing to do with anyone else. I could walk around in a thick winter coat when its 40* out and it still wouldn't be anyone elses business.

That doesn't address what I wrote at all. You are making a determination about other people, which is not within your purview. You can certainly disagree, but they are just as entitled to their beliefs as you are to yours.

With that said, I find it inappropriate...that is my right to my own belief. Thank you

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

That doesn't address what I wrote at all. You are making a determination about other people, which is not within your purview. You can certainly disagree, but they are just as entitled to their beliefs as you are to yours.

With that said, I find it inappropriate...that is my right to my own belief. Thank you

Please tell me how that is making a determination about other people? There is literally no need to be offended by the human body. At all. That's not determining anyone's opinion. There is nothing to offend anyone, everyone has seen a butt before. Just like there is no need to oversexualise, either.

 

[aw14]

Please tell me how that is making a determination about other people? There is literally no need to be offended by the human body. At all. That's not determining anyone's opinion. There is nothing to offend anyone, everyone has seen a butt before. Just like there is no need to oversexualise, either.

It people are offended they have that right. The same way you cannot be offended.

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

It people are offended they have that right. The same way you cannot be offended.

It's the human body. It is what it is.