The thing is that Universal will eventually catch up in that department as well. I am bringing my son for his first trip in October and Universal will not be able to match the feeling of riding the HM for the first time with my son. However, later generations will be able to have that feeling about spiderman, etc.So, to you:
Magic Carpets@MK>Spiderman@IOA? And if they switched, Spiderman would automatically become better due to it's new surroundings?
I think some people are bringing nostalgia in. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but I don't think anyone could put forth an argument that would convince me that Universal hasn't been better in recent years than Disney.
Oh how I long for the days of King Stefan's banquet hall.:slurp:I'm not gonna read the whole thread, so I'm sorry of I'm repeating others.
But,
Universal lets you buy an AP and spread the cost out over 12 months.
Universal has a place for adults.
Universal has Mythos (excellent meal without characters....genius!)
Universal doesn't aim most new attraction at toddlers.
Universal has good coasters.
Universal has Halloween Horror Nights.
Universal isn't afraid to be cutting edge.
Everything else....edge goes to Disney.
Honestly, I love them both. Go to both regularly. Hopefully I'll never have to make a real choice between the two...
Sorry, but the answer is nothing in my opinion.I'd rather ride a dull ride at Disney than a great ride at Universal, just because you are at Disney which has it's own special atmosphere.
There is absolutely nothing and I mean NOTHING that Universal can ever create that will match or ever outdo the absolute MAGIC, extreme talent and absolute joy that every single DisneyWorld attraction and parks bring to the table.
I've seen it. I know what it is. It's not even remotley on the same scale as Everest or Mission:Space.
Spider-Man is not on the scale of Everest or Mission:Space in terms of theming? Everest has an impressive exterior and entertaining queue, but the actual ride has ONE themed room (the brief "temple" segment on the main lift) and the rest being a bunch of generic rockwork. I don't believe I can see any of the support structures on Spider-Man... you complain about Spider-Man being on all screens, yet Mission:Space is one of the most underwhelming screen-based attractions yet! It has minimal theming with the exception of the decent queue! In terms of immersion, technology, family-friendly thrills, and fun, Spider-Man (IN MY OPINION) trumps any ride found at Disney. But there is no denying that its theming is not as good as Everest or Space, that's just silly.
Walked through both. Experienced all those attractions. Again, you're confusing technology with detail. Pop-Eye is well themed??? Have you ever been on Kali River Rapids? Jaws is not well themed, but in it's defense, it's also very old. The Jungle Cruise is themed better than it. Terminator, again, it's all about technology. I'll take Mickey's Philharmagic anyday.
Kali River Rapids has a cool looking temple with a preachy loggers section... and an embarassingly short, boring ride. Popeye instead clearly tells a story while immersing you in the cartoon environment - and it does that very well while still giving you a fun, thrilling river raft ride.
Jaws isn't well themed? Did you just stare at the water the whole ride? A whole community is built around the island and ride, with a church, graveyard, beach, gas station & dock, power lines, houses, boats, and docks! I suppose all of the equipment and knick knacks inside the creepy Boathouse don't constitute as theming, either? Jungle Cruise is well themed and a very nostalgic ride, but to say Jaws has no theming is ridiculous.
Finally, Terminator - what? It's all about technology? It combines some animatronics, 3D imagery, and some spectacular live action, all seamlessly combined... the film it's based on is a classic and attraction itself is impressive and fun. That's great that you prefer Philharmagic, as that's a fun attraction as well, but you're blatantly snorting Pixie Dust here... Terminator is in no way a bad attraction.
I didn't think Jurassic Park's set were great at all. In fact, I was very surprised that the ride was completely conceived by Steven Speilberg, due to the lack of theming.
I'm about ready to give up on this... lack of theming? What? Throughout the whole ride you're immersed in the Jurassic Park atmosphere, with some of the locations taken straight from the movie, with huge, larger than life set pieces (the Ultrasaur, the raptor cage, the Hadrosaur, and the T-Rex come to mind). This is what Dinosaur should've been like - 100% immersion.
The Mummy is the best ride at Universal, hands down (in my opinion). I won't argue that with you. Everest is great, but Mummy is an amazing experience.
Finally, something I can agree with you on. This thread seems to be inevitably steering towards the "Disney trumps all" mindset...
Yeah, Universal's theming is horrible! Just look at it:Where did anyone say that Universal's theming was horrible?
I don't think this thread is showing that Disney fans are snorting pixie dust. I think it's showing that those who prefer Universal can't see why others may not share their opinion. The Disney fans are giving Universal their due credit, which they deserve, while Universal fans are pretty much saying Disney's simply not comparable.
If IOA is the far superior theme park to the Magic Kingdom, then why do almost 4 times as many people visit the Magic Kingdom every year?:shrug:
Ok, this thread is very interesting and made me evaluate my love of Disney. I wanted to make sure that I haven't been brain washed or blinded by my love for Disney and this thread really helped me do that. I am still a huge love of Disney always will be. I still think the parks are ten times better and it is definitly a different world. And Disney DOES have a more world wide appeal. Very few families come from lets say Norway to visit US. At least not as their first choice.
This could take a bit so bare with me, and please read what I say with an open mind and don't hate on me.
With that being said I thought about US and what is better. The first thing I thought was yes, prices are so much better. I mean the ticket sales are almost the same (still over priced for everything else you still have to pay for) but for Florida residents (like myself) there is a better deal. Same with the passes. Granted you get four not two, but still. I always thought Disney is losing out financially on this. They are already making a killing and still the top vacation parks. So why not prove how great they are and how much they care about families by charging a little less than parks under them. I have this fear that blue collar workers like my wife and I who are avid Disney fans will eventually not be welcome to Disney anymore and it will be like in Jurassic Park where only the rich will be flown into this exclusive vacation area.
Universal does have an appeal and caters to Adults a little better than Disney. Disney is really pushing the family fans. Universal seems to do a pretty good job catering for both. From Nickalodeon rides and shows, to roller coasters. It caters really to BOTH demographics. They still have City Walk a great place for dancing as my wife and I love. Disney tore down Pleasure Island. By doing that you have alienated the night life for my wife and I. That includes the Halloween events. There really isn't too much soley for Adults anymore. Universal has events and attraction for both.
Also their idea of a park about Hollywood... ACTUALLY has a theme about Hollywood! There is more respect for the idea of movie making. Imagine! For a movie fan like myself I find myself more immersed in Hollywood and the idea of Hollywood than that MGM, er, Disney's Hollywood Studios.
And Yes, everything is so much closer. I don't have to wait for busses that are suppose to be every 20 minutes and usually are not.
But one little thing I want to say. I don't know about the upkeep like a lot of you say. Everytime I go I see more things needing paint jobs, or abandoned buildings, or rides breaking down a lot more than Disney. Just my what I have seen.
"The important thing is the family.If you can keep families together-and that's the back bone of our whole business, catering to families-thats what we hope to do."
---Walter Elias Disney
If IOA is the far superior theme park to the Magic Kingdom, then why do almost 4 times as many people visit the Magic Kingdom every year?:shrug:
Nostalgia, brand appeal, and Magical Express/Magic Your Way. :lookaroun Just because a park has better attendance doesn't mean it's the better park. You said yourself Universal Studios is better than Hollywood Studios... guess which one has more attendance?
(Me thinks people don't like comparing attractions because Universal often triumphs; with the exception of Tower of Terror/FearFall, that is.)
(Me thinks people don't like comparing attractions because Universal often triumphs; with the exception of Tower of Terror/FearFall, that is.)
(Me thinks people don't like comparing attractions because Universal often triumphs; with the exception of Tower of Terror/FearFall, that is.)
...while Universal fans are pretty much saying Disney's simply not comparable.
I definately feel that it could be a result of frustration. This is not aimed at you personally as i have enjoyed reading your detailed arguments, albeit that i do not agree with them.
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