What Existing WDW Attractions Would You Remove?

Chrononymous

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A lot of things that people have suggested are not my favorites, but I would rather have those things in that space than nothing at all.

Except for Imagination. It's a waste of real estate. And a sad sad reminder of what it once was.

And I would really like to see that damn Hat gone from DHS.

If they can guarantee that something better will replace them, SGE and the Speedway can go too...but I always think it will end up being something even more unrelated to the original Tomorrowland idea, and I cringe at the thought.
 

MagicMike

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Original Poster
If they can guarantee that something better will replace them, SGE and the Speedway can go too...but I always think it will end up being something even more unrelated to the original Tomorrowland idea, and I cringe at the thought.

Could the problem with that be Disney's lack of films or properties that relate to the area? If WDW has abandoned development of independent attractions not rooted in existing films, and moved away from park continuity in lieu of franchise synergy, it would be a struggle to develop a ride or show that fits the theme of Tomorrowland given the options.

Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor - Great movie, okay ride. Shoehorned into TL, would fit better at DHS
Stitch's Great Escape! - Great Movie, not so great ride. Replaced an independent attraction unique to the parks, WDW, and specifically Tomorrowland
Carousel Of Progress - Independent, once great ride (still is in my heart), surprised John hasn't been replaced with a Captain Jack Sparrow AA.
Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin - Great Movie, fun ride, would fit better at DHS

It just seems like the options for Tomorrowland are very limited if rides must be derived from popular movie franchises and cannot be developed as stand alone attractions.
 

The Incredible Schmulk

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Stitch's Great Escape has to go. It's awful. I think that's a pretty prevalent opinion, though.

If you want something more controversial, I think Carousel of Progress needs to go. It's fun, but it's old. And I don't just mean that it's rundown, which it is. No, I mean the idea behind it is old. When the idea for the attraction was imagined, it made sense to look at the past through the advances in technology before looking into the future and trying to portray advances yet to come. The problem is, we have reached a point where technology is advancing faster than the attraction can be updated.

The Carousel is past its time, and I think it's time to retire it. The Disney parks should always be improving, and Tomorrowland has been stuck in the past for decades, anchored by the Carousel. They're theme parks, not museums. It's time to let go of nostalgia and move on.
 

Mike K

Active Member
Mars Needs Moms and John Carter were really fun, underrated films that had a ton of potential for exciting attractions but the box office numbers just sadly weren't there to justify Disney investing any further in them. It stills seems early to justify John Carter's fate in the parks especially since the home video sales seem to be doing quite well but I really doubt it which is a shame. Both those films could have easily been used for future attractions in Tomorrowland or potentially Hollywood Studios especially in John Carter's case.
 
Mars Needs Moms and John Carter were really fun, underrated films that had a ton of potential for exciting attractions but the box office numbers just sadly weren't there to justify Disney investing any further in them. It stills seems early to justify John Carter's fate in the parks especially since the home video sales seem to be doing quite well but I really doubt it which is a shame. Both those films could have easily been used for future attractions in Tomorrowland or potentially Hollywood Studios especially in John Carter's case.
I loved mars needs moms!
 

Mike K

Active Member
I loved mars needs moms!

Same here! I can't speak for other people but personally I was a supporter of motion capture since the very beginning. People complained of the "dead eyes" in The Polar Express and more or less finding the animation rather creepy. I thought that film and each subsequent film that Zemeckis was involved in kept advancing and perfecting the style. Mars Needs Moms looked fantastic and was more fun than people gave credit to. As I've stated before, that film, John Carter and definitely the Tron films would have given Tomorrowland plenty of recent future-esque films to work with. Hopefully, Tron still has a strong chance of becoming an attraction due to guest interest, the recent Tron: Uprising show which is a ton of fun and the fact that Tron: Legacy performed the best out of the three films I mentioned. It took in $400 million worldwide on a budget of $170 million compared to John Carter's $250+ million budget which only returned a little more than its budget back. Unfortunate, but I strongly believe the marketing of that film was its demise. I witnessed it in IMAX 3D and had blast!
 

MagicMike

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Original Poster
John Carter's $250+ million budget which only returned a little more than its budget back. Unfortunate, but I strongly believe the marketing of that film was its demise.

Nailed it. It's a shame Treasure Planet bombed also. Perhaps Disney can build a park for failed movie franchises and charge half price for tickets.

What about The Seas with Nemo & Friends? Other than providing fish for select restaurants, the dark ride housed within (Which is fun), and Turtle Talk (Which can be moved anywhere) are the actual aquariums any longer a draw for visitors? Just as Monsters Inc feels forced into Tomorrowland, would Nemo fit in better at DHS?
 

bubbles1812

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Same here! I can't speak for other people but personally I was a supporter of motion capture since the very beginning. People complained of the "dead eyes" in The Polar Express and more or less finding the animation rather creepy. I thought that film and each subsequent film that Zemeckis was involved in kept advancing and perfecting the style. Mars Needs Moms looked fantastic and was more fun than people gave credit to. As I've stated before, that film, John Carter and definitely the Tron films would have given Tomorrowland plenty of recent future-esque films to work with. Hopefully, Tron still has a strong chance of becoming an attraction due to guest interest, the recent Tron: Uprising show which is a ton of fun and the fact that Tron: Legacy performed the best out of the three films I mentioned. It took in $400 million worldwide on a budget of $170 million compared to John Carter's $250+ million budget which only returned a little more than its budget back. Unfortunate, but I strongly believe the marketing of that film was its demise. I witnessed it in IMAX 3D and had blast!

I haven't seen Mars Needs Moms so I cant judge but I'm one of those who does find the motion capture they do in those types of films to be creepy. I will agree that they've at least advanced from The Polar Express (which I dislike for a number of reasons beyond the motion capture). So they are at least sliding down the creepiness scale though IMO they have a ways to go.

I really just wanted to note that I think a full on Tron attraction would be really cool. Though I don't see it ever happening. Just not well known enough. BUT :) the new Test Track remodel appears, at least from the concept art pictures to have a very Tron-like look to it. So you'll get a little bit of Tron in the parks at least.

And didn't see John Carter but even I could tell the marketing was a disaster on all levels. There is a reason Rich Ross got fired. Hardly any of the commercials explained anything about the actual plot of the movie. they just showed quick action shots...and action, while cool, isn't going to entice people to a property that's not that well known today. Not to mention them just axing Mars from the title so that maybe it would have been recognizable to some via the title. And it looked like they mis-casted...most people I know think Taylor Kitsch has about as much charisma and appeal as the wall I'm looking at right now. I'm sure he was fine in the movie but he just wasn't going to bring people in and since the story wasn't well known today, they probably needed to pick a bit stronger of a lead.
 

Mike K

Active Member
I really just wanted to note that I think a full on Tron attraction would be really cool. Though I don't see it ever happening. Just not well known enough. BUT :) the new Test Track remodel appears, at least from the concept art pictures to have a very Tron-like look to it. So you'll get a little bit of Tron in the parks at least.

The second I saw the concept art for the Test Track refurb, I had to scroll to the top of news because I was practically convinced they were going to rename it "Tron Track". I'm really impressed with what there planning to do but I really hope it doesn't diminish the chances of Tron making its way into the parks at some point.
 

Mike K

Active Member
Just as Monsters Inc feels forced into Tomorrowland, would Nemo fit in better at DHS?

Hmm... tough call. To be honest, I actually like where Finding Nemo is placed in Epcot and of course you have the show in Animal Kingdom. But, bringing or moving them over to Hollywood Studios would feel a little forced if that makes any sense. Yes, it's a movie and could easily get the pass on those terms alone but I like when the attraction's theme flows with the environment its in and really immerses you from the outside of the attraction to the exit. I just don't feel like Finding Nemo could swing all that in Hollywood Studios... but if you're talking Pixar properties, I can't think of anyone better than The Incredibles that would fit in with Hollywood Studios.
 

cornandacobb

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Tom Sawyer Island...reimagined w/ a hunt for Injun Joe. The press would adore this.


Buzz is just a lame version of TSM. It can stay cuz the kids love it, but it's now disappointing as an adult who has ridden TSM multiple times.


Speedway should be a art of Retroland instead of Tomorrowland.

I went on Stitch for the first time on my last trip. The setup was pretty cool.
Then the show started. See ya!
 

rufio

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And didn't see John Carter but even I could tell the marketing was a disaster on all levels. There is a reason Rich Ross got fired. Hardly any of the commercials explained anything about the actual plot of the movie. they just showed quick action shots...and action, while cool, isn't going to entice people to a property that's not that well known today.

I agree. I had no idea what this movie was going to be about until I started getting emails from Disney about it. Hearing about a movie called "John Carter," makes me think about maybe a western or something about some politician in the 40s. It doesn't make me think about crazy awesome action on Mars or whatever. I still don't really know because it didn't intrigue me enough to pay $12 to see it in theaters.
 

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