It varies. If I am not mistaken HPB, and FC are/will be leased to outside companies, Golden Oaks was sold, and I am pretty sure the Crossroads is not in any way affiliated with WDW.
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What ever happened to Flamingo Crossing?
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ajt5027
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Yeah I didnt think corssroads was affiliated either but someone had mentioned it and I wondered if at one point it was Disney Property and they sold it off. With that being said cant they just re-develop the land that they own after the leases run out? Given re-developing those high-rises @ DTD is certainly arduous, but hey if anyone can do it, its Disney.
71jason
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Yes. It was the original model for Flamingo Crossings, basically--technically on-property (before the land was sold), but not presented as such.
WDW1974
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Just a dumb greedy move by a company interested in real estate development instead of creating world class immersive family entertainment. They spent millions of dollars on infrastructure for nothing ... and if they think people are going to pay them the big 2005-era bucks to move onto hallowed MAGICal ground, they're smoking more than pixie dust.
Orlando is one of the most depressed areas around and there's a glut of exactly the type of properties they were trying to attract.
it was so much nicer when there was simply orange groves.
Orlando is one of the most depressed areas around and there's a glut of exactly the type of properties they were trying to attract.
it was so much nicer when there was simply orange groves.
Figments Friend
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I totally agree with 74's post above. What were they thinking with this??
I totally agree with 74's post above. What were they thinking with this??
asianway
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Crossroads still has the WDW fire hydrants on site - the only remnant that I am aware of.
TheBeatles
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this is such an ill-conceived idea.
it's disrespectful to those who went through many hurdles to acquire the land and also to the designers and planners who carefully crafted wdw.
wdw used to be taken seriously and delicately cared for. will we ever see a return to that?
it's disrespectful to those who went through many hurdles to acquire the land and also to the designers and planners who carefully crafted wdw.
wdw used to be taken seriously and delicately cared for. will we ever see a return to that?
menamechris
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It is absolutely amazing what is happening on so many levels. Disney management has become its own worst enemy. Have you seen the thread on the supposed Grand Floridian DVC rumored to be built soon? Everything is starting to become so cluttered and closed in. I would be thrilled if they would try to focus on filling the resorts, theme parks, and store fronts at DTD before trying to expand. Its just bad business...
How is building a multi-level time share resort that will sell out in record time and at premium prices be bad business? It might be bad aesthetics but it is not bad business.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Agreed. Flamingo Crossings, and the equally depressing Golden Oaks are the antithesis of what WDW should strive to be. They are rushing to develop these real estate projects, when quite frankly they need to be focused on improving the offerings they already have. Leave the untouched areas untouched for now. Selling off bits of land, and creating these terrible real estate developments are going to come back to bite them. They are rapidly disintegrating the available land, the walls are closing in around WDW. And it is sad.
menamechris
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Haha! I'm not mad at ya! :wave:
I really don't think there necessarily a reason to respond though. It's kinda like politics - we are looking at the same thing two different ways. Which is cool - I agree with you on most everything on these threads. This one we should just agree to disagree.
TRONorail10
Active Member
If Disney would pay their workers just a tiny bit more, it would actually help out the Orlando area as a whole. Because all of that money would be invested right back into local businesses and Disney. I'm not saying it would be a drastic change in standard of living, but it would give cast members just that little bit of extra income to spend on local businesses instead of being forced to shop at low cost places like Wal-Mart and McDonalds all of the time.
menamechris
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And if Wal-Mart paid their workers a little bit more...and McDonald's paid their employees a little bit more...and so on...and so forth.... Ain't gonna happen...
I had been wondering about that project, too... Who knows, it might be revived at some point.
One thing that makes me wonder about this focus on real estate developments, including DVC: While they provide some nice profits in the years they are sold off, those profits aren't sustainable. Unless they continue to build and sell off, the profits will just stop. At some point there will be no more land to build on or the market will be saturated?
One thing that makes me wonder about this focus on real estate developments, including DVC: While they provide some nice profits in the years they are sold off, those profits aren't sustainable. Unless they continue to build and sell off, the profits will just stop. At some point there will be no more land to build on or the market will be saturated?
flavious27
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Well the profit comes as park admission, food, and souvenirs after the units sell out.
Mouse Detective
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Good point. The key to Flamingo Crossings though are the "economy" motels that need to be there. Problem is that hotel new construction costs are so high that whoever goes there needs to be able to charge more than $100/night at least. And when you have some of Disney's own value hotels on-property charging less than that, no hotel developer can see a way to make this work.
So no hotels = no restaurants = no shops = no Flamingo Crossings.
John
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How many projects that need attention before they even start to think about this one? By the time those are addressed there will be others.....to me there will never be a FC. I dont care what anbody says the obvious problems they have had with PI/DTD should be an indicator as to why and why not FC has progressed. It has to be the terms in which you have to abide by when it comes to a Disney property. As pointed out other areas around WDW has started to recover....but FC continues to languish.
Mouse Detective
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Rumor has it that the Reedy Creek Improvement District has submitted a proposal to build a new fire station somewhere out on Western Way or in Flamingo Crossings. Under the what comes first, chicken or egg theory, there has to be fire services available before anyone can build anything. Plans for the first building in FC, a Walgreens, were posted a year ago but nothing has ever started.