What did you do?

[JillC LI]

So far I have been running the following at these paces

Monday short run: Jog pace to work out soreness from saturday
Wednesday medium run: Race Pace
Thursday short run: Jog
Saturday long run: Race Pace

Jill, I wonder if I could stay this course and I would be fine? I know it is whatever works for the individual, but Im not expert and have only been running for a year. Thanks for the feedback.

Well, I'm not an expert either, and I'm not nearly as fast as you, but I do have quite a few years of long distance running under my belt, so in my non-expert opinion I will say yes, I do think you could keep up with that plan, but I think you are putting alot of strain on your body to do ALL of your long runs at race pace. One suggestion I might make is the following. I assume you are following a program that increases long run distance some weeks and decreases it others, right? Well, why don't you do the "shorter" long runs at race pace and so the "longer" long runs at a slightly reduced pace. That way you will have a chance to let your body get the feel of running long-ish distances at race pace, but when you get up into those very high miles, you will not overpressure your body. What do you think of that idea?

 

[joel_maxwell]

Well, I'm not an expert either, and I'm not nearly as fast as you, but I do have quite a few years of long distance running under my belt, so in my non-expert opinion I will say yes, I do think you could keep up with that plan, but I think you are putting alot of strain on your body to do ALL of your long runs at race pace. One suggestion I might make is the following. I assume you are following a program that increases long run distance some weeks and decreases it others, right? Well, why don't you do the "shorter" long runs at race pace and so the "longer" long runs at a slightly reduced pace. That way you will have a chance to let your body get the feel of running long-ish distances at race pace, but when you get up into those very high miles, you will not overpressure your body. What do you think of that idea?

I think I might try that or, slow down just a bit on the long regular runs and then really slow down by 45/90 seconds for a break on the fall back weeks of 10, 12, 14, 12 and 8 to give my body the break it needs. I have the following left on my weekend long runs:

13
10
15
16
12
18
14
20
12
8

Man, I just dont know. I hate being OCD about stuff. I really do value yours/others opinions on things that Im not skilled on yet with my body. As you see, I have 13 this Saturday. I might try that at a 8-8:15 pace instead of 7:45. Compromise right?

EDIT: ok, I have been sitting here at work and I think Ill try running all my weekend long runs at a 9 minute pace. That is 45-90 seconds slower that I have been running the long runs. I will then make my week day runs more intense. That will help me slow down on the weekend which I have previously been resting up for them a little. I should listen to everyone that has done this before and the experts. Thanks again Jill for the input.

 

[joel_maxwell]

Yesterday, 10.36mi in 40-50mph wind gusts and sideways rain hammering against my face. The sand hitting me at those speeds was an added bonus.

Got home completely drenched and scooped sand out from my mouth and nostrils. Yum.

Luckily you didnt get any sand in your shorts and you didnt get any chaffing. Now that would have been the icing on the cake.

 

[AUPr8Hd]

Simple 4 miler tonight. Temp was 43* when I started and 39* when I finished. <brrr>

Going to run either a 5k or 10k this Saturday.

 

[joel_maxwell]

Simple 4 miler tonight. Temp was 43* when I started and 39* when I finished. <brrr>

Going to run either a 5k or 10k this Saturday.

I love running in the cold (after mile 1).

Good luck.

3 miles tonight.

 

[JillC LI]

I love running in the cold (after mile 1).

Me too. I'll take cold over hot any day of the week (although I'm not a big fan of wind). Going for an easy 8 miles this weekend, and it should be in the mid-30s. After that first mile, it should be really lovely.

 

[AUPr8Hd]

Me too. I'll take cold over hot any day of the week (although I'm not a big fan of wind). Going for an easy 8 miles this weekend, and it should be in the mid-30s. After that first mile, it should be really lovely.

Definitely agree about running in the cold. I can always add a layer. With heat, there's only so much you can remove :ROFLOL:

Toys for Tot 10k run this morning. Finished in 1:07.18. Happy with my pacing, except for miles 5 & 6. I have to push through the mental issues

 

[Donald Duck]

13.14mi yesterday and 19mi this morning.

Loving the cold weather as well!

 

[joel_maxwell]

Evening everyone. I tried the new approach to the long Saturday runs. I down shifted and tried to run as slow as I could without it being a fast walking pace and it came in over 13 miles as a 8:34 pace. I sped up at times on accident and really had a tough time staying at that pace. All in all, I was more worn out from running that style than running that this morning at a 7:45 pace. Weird, possibly coincidence.

Fun stats:
1520 calories - 30% from fat
Elevation: Minimum 630 fasl - Maximum 860 fasl

I love techy stuff.

 

[Phonedave]

Well, I am back in the USA

Tuesday 5K

Thursday 6.25 Miles

Today (Sunday) = Cayman Half Marathon

What a great race. Well run, loads of fun, GREAT after race support (apples, bananas, oranges, granola bars, candy, cookies, muffins, massage tent, and Amstel Light) The Finish gate was smack in the middle of Georgetown and my friends (who ALL got up at 3:30 AM to join me at the race) had seats in the outdoor balcony of the restaurant overlooking the finish line.

I didn't do too well. I am out of training because of past knee issues and I was running on 4 hours sleep and a week on a sofa bed. Around mile 10, my back just cramped all up. However, it was still a great race and a load of fun.

-dave

 

[Texas84]

Would you believe I mowed my lawn today?

Yesterday, Macon GA Children's Hospital 5k, best time ever. Skipped the run/walk and ran the whole thing. The Chick-Fil-A cow even ran the race! Great event. Best spread I've ever seen at a race including free CFA chicken biscuits!

My Galloway half training plan has 12.5 miles this weekend. Then we're off to WDW Sunday! I won't be running that week. Except to the FastPasses.

 

[joel_maxwell]

Well, I am back in the USA

Tuesday 5K

Thursday 6.25 Miles

Today (Sunday) = Cayman Half Marathon

What a great race. Well run, loads of fun, GREAT after race support (apples, bananas, oranges, granola bars, candy, cookies, muffins, massage tent, and Amstel Light) The Finish gate was smack in the middle of Georgetown and my friends (who ALL got up at 3:30 AM to join me at the race) had seats in the outdoor balcony of the restaurant overlooking the finish line.

I didn't do too well. I am out of training because of past knee issues and I was running on 4 hours sleep and a week on a sofa bed. Around mile 10, my back just cramped all up. However, it was still a great race and a load of fun.

-dave

Hey, you still have the Bling!!

Nice job Dave. Sofa Beds are the devil.

 

[JillC LI]

Evening everyone. I tried the new approach to the long Saturday runs. I down shifted and tried to run as slow as I could without it being a fast walking pace and it came in over 13 miles as a 8:34 pace. I sped up at times on accident and really had a tough time staying at that pace. All in all, I was more worn out from running that style than running that this morning at a 7:45 pace. Weird, possibly coincidence.

Fun stats:
1520 calories - 30% from fat
Elevation: Minimum 630 fasl - Maximum 860 fasl

I love techy stuff.

Well if it was truly that uncomfortable for you, perhaps that pace IS too slow for you?????

 

[joel_maxwell]

Well if it was truly that uncomfortable for you, perhaps that pace IS too slow for you?????

I just dont know Jill. At least it isnt a life or death decision. Both will get me through the race in a few months.

This Saturday is a fall back week so maybe it was due to the end of a build up 2 weeks again. This Saturday is 10 miles. I might try it again at a 8:30 pace and see if my body was tired and sore from the start last week. :shrug:

One thing is for sure, I want to decide either to go strong during the week all 3 days and coast on the weekend, or go strong 1/3 days in the week and go for it on Saturday.

 

[Donald Duck]

Strong run this morning. 10.56mi. I don't know where my energy came from, but I did a 7:30-8min pace the entire run...a training run. Oh, well.

72+ miles last week Mon-Sat, not inlcuding my timed 5 hour run for the ultra. Descent.

Cheers.

 

[Fievel]

10.1 mile run this morning.

I'm coming to the conclusion that my running shoes are past my prime, but I don't know if I want to mess with trying new shoes this close the WDW half.

 

[fmingo36]

Well, I am back in the USA

Tuesday 5K

Thursday 6.25 Miles

Today (Sunday) = Cayman Half Marathon

What a great race. Well run, loads of fun, GREAT after race support (apples, bananas, oranges, granola bars, candy, cookies, muffins, massage tent, and Amstel Light) The Finish gate was smack in the middle of Georgetown and my friends (who ALL got up at 3:30 AM to join me at the race) had seats in the outdoor balcony of the restaurant overlooking the finish line.

I didn't do too well. I am out of training because of past knee issues and I was running on 4 hours sleep and a week on a sofa bed. Around mile 10, my back just cramped all up. However, it was still a great race and a load of fun.

-dave

Welcome Back Dave! I still think you should have taken up my offer to run the relay with you. :lol:

 

[joel_maxwell]

Strong run this morning. 10.56mi. I don't know where my energy came from, but I did a 7:30-8min pace the entire run...a training run. Oh, well.

72+ miles last week Mon-Sat, not inlcuding my timed 5 hour run for the ultra. Descent.

Cheers.

Excellent job! That is feeling strong. Wonder what you ate or was it that perfect night sleep.

Tonight it was brutal cold for the first time. It is 30 but feels like 23 and super blustery (so says the weather channel). Im ordering some compression tights tonight. Im not going another day if I dont have to without something on my legs.

3 miles - 7:25 pace (I want to get that down to 7:15 Thursday on my 4 miler)

 

[AUPr8Hd]

Excellent job! That is feeling strong. Wonder what you ate or was it that perfect night sleep.

Tonight it was brutal cold for the first time. It is 30 but feels like 23 and super blustery (so says the weather channel). Im ordering some compression tights tonight. Im not going another day if I dont have to without something on my legs.

3 miles - 7:25 pace (I want to get that down to 7:15 Thursday on my 4 miler)

It was certainly an adjustment to the cold last night. It was 35* when I started with wind chill in mid-20's. I know it's not as cold as other places. But, it's cold for us southerners

Only ran 2.86 last night. For some reason, I was feeling a little off. I'm not sure if it was because I was wearing different shoes, not dressed properly or just not there mentally. Oh well, there's always today. This might be my last run this week due to a funeral later in the week. I am planning on a 12k this Saturday and should be fresh due to fewer miles this week

 

[Phonedave]

Welcome Back Dave! I still think you should have taken up my offer to run the relay with you. :lol:

Would have still needed two more people :lol:



I tried, I was down there with four other people. One of them ran a 5K with me on Tuesday morning, and I could see she was pushing herself to do that. It was the first time she ran that long (now she tells me she is going to buy a Garmin 305 and start running - can I get commission from Garmin?) The other three people just laughed at me when I suggested fielding a relay team (or even just going for a short AM run)



We all plan on going back again next year, and if I am there on Dec 4, 2011 I may have to run this thing again - and be in better shape/sleep

They set a course record for the half this year. 1:15:49.3 - 5:48 pace - they have some speed demons in that field. The guy who set it, set the old record in 2008. He beat it by 10 seconds or so.

I'll have to step my game up a bit to hang with these runners

-dave


-dave