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trainplane3

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Other/General

A Fifth Gate?
  • No. Not one trusted insider has indicated this is anywhere in the works. No. {added}

The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
  • parks are vying (with the exception of MK) for ride systems (e.g., Shanghai Pirates or FoP Theater) and maybe over an IP (e.g., Indy) [here]
  • The Flight of Passage mechanics is in the mix for cloning at some time in the future [here]
    • but seemingly later rather than sooner [here] {added}
  • And now... the latest proposal is for Indy *and* Dinosaurs to co-exist! Indy with a Dino theme (e.g., Lost Word type of thing) would take over DINOSAUR and DinoRama would be an updated Excavator coasters. This means no South America Land for this area. [here] and [here] {added}
    • A reskinned Shanghai PotC type of attraction is still up in the air, between DHS and Epcot for some IP other than Indy. [here] and [here] and [here] {added}
    • Not likely to happen until 2019 [here] {added}
Transportation
  • Monorail
    • Now that the automation has been completed, expect upgrades to the vehicles [strong] which includes being flush to the loading platform for easier load of vehicles [strong]
    • Bob Gurr and Bombardier
      • Legendary and retired Imagineer, Bob Gurr, let loose that WDW was in the process of contracting with Bombardier for new monorail trains (thanks, in part, to several recent non-lethal but-could-have-been mishaps). Not a done deal... yet. {added}
      • Option: Extending the stations to accommodate longer trains. [here] {added}
  • Gondola Lift!
    • the plan is to discontinue bus service from the Skyliner resorts (Riviera, CBR, Pop, AoA) to Epcot/DHS. [here] {added}

The Great Capex Recession
  • It seems that some of the projects announced and unannounced are being cut or scaled back due to reduction in allotted capex (capital expenditure budget). [here]
    • The D23-announced Main Street Theater looks to be definitely cut (or put off to some indefinite future).
    • It may likely be cancelling or putting off to much later the Coco overlay of Gran Fiesta [here]
      • OR... Coco may be back on. [here] and [here] {added}


Resorts

A Star Wars theme hotel with a two-night interactive component [strong, corroborated by official survey about such a resort] [confirmed at D23 2017]
  • it may even open at the same time with the Land! [here]
    • and probably won't be able to in time [here] {added}
  • Likely Site is Project H in this permit [here]
    • Project H***** is the SW Resort [here]
    • And it stands for "Hubble" [here] and [here] {added}
Epcot Main Entrance: Brand new resort complexes in the area of Epcot entrance (not Crescent Lake), four in the running [at least two somewhat likely]
  • Epcot Main Entrance: Brand new resort complexes in the area of Epcot entrance (not Crescent Lake), four in the running [at least two somewhat likely]
    • Exploratory borings for a new Epcot retention pond seems likely to indicate new building in the area [here]
    • Perhaps even a park entrance resort like MiraCosta at DisneySea [here]
    • Expect one resort by 2021 or two resorts to be done by 2023 [here]
    • Narrowed down to three locations [here] {added}
      • the inside the park option has been dropped; the three remaining are: Park Entrance; on the current bus site; west of the bus site. [here] {added}
      • and the central one is the less likely one [here] {added}
Another great report of upcoming stuff as usual, Penguin. Keep it up!

Just a quick question: Do you still think M&MRR and Galaxy's Edge won't be open till Fall 2019? Last I heard, our SW:GE might open around the same time as DL's.

Birthday #14 @ Pop Century   
FYI, please use the threads for these subjects. This thread is meant as a rumor/news source, not really discussion:
MMRR: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/mickey-and-minnies-runaway-railway-confirmed.929259/
SWGE: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/star-wars-land-announced-for-disneys-hollywood-studios.903110/
SWGE WDW is roughly 4-6 months behind DL's
 

MisterPenguin

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FYI, please use the threads for these subjects. This thread is meant as a rumor/news source, not really discussion:
MMRR: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/mickey-and-minnies-runaway-railway-confirmed.929259/
SWGE: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/star-wars-land-announced-for-disneys-hollywood-studios.903110/
SWGE WDW is roughly 4-6 months behind DL's
D'oh!!

All fixed. Thanks!!
 

MisterPenguin

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Just a quick question: Do you still think M&MRR and Galaxy's Edge won't be open till Fall 2019? Last I heard, our SW:GE might open around the same time as DL's.
An insider said that was a possibility at one time, but since then, he and all others have said that DHS's SWL and MMRR will be Fall of 2019 (that includes going into December, if need be).
 

MisterPenguin

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DHS

Toy Story Land in Hollywood Studio, currently being built

Mickey's and Minnie's Runaway Railway replacing (not overlaying) the Great Movie Ride . Starting this August 13, 2017 [construction to start immediately]. Uses Mickey Shorts animation and 2 1/2D effects on an LPS vehicle. [confirmed at D23 2017]
  • Timeframe:
    • 2019, 3-4Q [here] and [here] {updated}
    • just before DHS's Star Wars Land [here] {added}
    • may have soft opening in August 2019 [here] {added}

Muppet Courtyard
  • Mama Melrose: Status unknown. Stay as is or get a Muppet theme?
  • Muppet Theater exterior and Muppet Square get a refresh [very strong] [accomplished] {updated}
  • Muppet Theater might be used in the future as a preview theater [here]
  • Muppet fountain to be restored as a fountain once off stage infrastructure is done. [likely][accomplished] {updated}

  • Grand Avenue
    • Maybe a streetmosphere show where the Muppets heckle the crowds waiting to get into Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge [Jim Hill rumor] [and here and here] {updated}
      • or maybe not [here]

General

The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
  • And now... the latest proposal is for Indy *and* Dinosaurs to co-exist! Indy with a Dino theme (e.g., Lost Word type of thing) would take over DINOSAUR and DinoRama would be an updated Excavator coasters. This means no South America Land for this area. [here] and [here] and [here] and [here]
    • A reskinned Shanghai PotC type of attraction is still up in the air, between DHS and Epcot for some IP other than Indy. [here] and [here] and [here]
    • Not likely to happen until after 2019 [here]
    • more like in 2021 [here] {added}
    • the Shanghai PotC clone can wind up in Epcot or DHS or DAK and can have one of three possible IP overlays [here] and [here] {added}

Epcot

New Space Restaurant (restaurant in Earth orbit) between Space and Test Track pavilions [citation needed] [map] [will be attached to Space building, but separate entrance]
  • Space Restaurant to open in 2019 [here]
  • Cryptic: Entrance to Space Restaurant will be... fabulous. [here]
    • likely a space elevator simulator [here]
  • Large table service for close to 300 guests, a show, and other surprises [here]
  • A 250 ft curved projection window along the south and southwestern interior wall [here] {added}
  • 16-seater bar, 188 seats upper tier (104 west / 84 east) and 188 seats lower tier [here] {added}

Impressions de France: the placement of the Rat ride would not necessitate any changes to IdF or any of France's restaurants or shops, however, that doesn't mean a separate decision could affect them, e.g, updated the IdF [here]​
  • in fact, a "new" film is penciled in for 2020 [here]
  • IdF's projection system was just updated (no new film yet) {added}
Illuminations: a major update, or complete replacement of Illuminations [strong]
 

MisterPenguin

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Epcot

Wonders of Life - the fate of the Wonders Pavilion is up in the air: either more Guardians, or something else, or demolished [likely]
  • if Guardians, there's a potential Knowhere based proposal [here]
  • Nothing to be done there until 2021 [here] or much longer [here]
  • And things change: The WoL received refurbed roofing and wasn't used as a Festival Center for F&G18. Additionally, Chapek and parks execs were seen casing it and Imagination pavilions. So, normal maintenance or, now, something more?
    • Doctor Strange rumor [here]
    • No longer talk of being demolished. Not likely to be repurposed in 2018. [here] and [here]
    • Good chance for an attraction based on a IP. [here] [here] [here] [here]
      • and more [here] and a possibility of a green light [here] {added}



Updated "quarterly" dates.

Disney fiscal year begins Oct 1. Which means...
Q1 = Oct, Nov, Dec​
Q2 = Jan, Feb, Mar​
Q3 = Apr, May, Jun​
Q4 = Jul, Aug, Sep.​

To avoid confusion, any predictions of dates using that schema will simply be translated in the tracker to the months they denote.
 

Zootopia Dude

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Epcot

Wonders of Life - the fate of the Wonders Pavilion is up in the air: either more Guardians, or something else, or demolished [likely]
  • if Guardians, there's a potential Knowhere based proposal [here]
  • Nothing to be done there until 2021 [here] or much longer [here]
  • And things change: The WoL received refurbed roofing and wasn't used as a Festival Center for F&G18. Additionally, Chapek and parks execs were seen casing it and Imagination pavilions. So, normal maintenance or, now, something more?
    • Doctor Strange rumor [here]
    • No longer talk of being demolished. Not likely to be repurposed in 2018. [here] and [here]
    • Good chance for an attraction based on a IP. [here] [here] [here] [here]
      • and more [here] and a possibility of a green light [here] {added}



Updated "quarterly" dates.

Disney fiscal year begins Oct 1. Which means...
Q1 = Oct, Nov, Dec​
Q2 = Jan, Feb, Mar​
Q3 = Apr, May, Jun​
Q4 = Jul, Aug, Sep.​

To avoid confusion, any predictions of dates using that schema will simply be translated in the tracker to the months they denote.
So that would mean with the current prediction for when MMRR & SW:GE open, Q1 2020?
 

MisterPenguin

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Premium Member
Original Poster
MK

TTA: Peoplemover: scattered IP should be showing up [here] {and timeline updated} {added}



In General / Park Wide

Club 33 coming to WDW parks
  • Club 33 in DAK won't be taking over an existing space, but will be a new build. [here] {added}


The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
  • And now... Dinoland gets updates without Indy added in. Indy possibly going to DHS [here] and [here] {added}

The Flight of Passage mechanics is in the mix for cloning at some time in the future [here] and [here]
  • And now... only a slight chance for Anaheim and no clones in WDW [here] {added}


Epcot

China's 360 Degree Theater will go digital and seamless [confirmed at D23 Expo 2017]. The new film will be live action and projected from a new central rind in the ceiling. [here]
  • could have some Disney IP showing up here, esp, in new 360 movie [here] {added}

  • New Space Restaurant (restaurant in Earth orbit) between Space and Test Track pavilions [citation needed] [map] [will be attached
    • could have some good ol' Disney IP showing up somehow [here] {added}
 

Bill Cipher

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Hey @MisterPenguin , can you provide an updated version of your Google Earth Pro map with everything overlaid on it? The one you have posted in the top of the thread is getting a little outdated (Main Street Theatre being axed, New Star Wars Hotel permits). It would be much appreciated!
 

MisterPenguin

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Hey @MisterPenguin , can you provide an updated version of your Google Earth Pro map with everything overlaid on it? The one you have posted in the top of the thread is getting a little outdated (Main Street Theatre being axed, New Star Wars Hotel permits). It would be much appreciated!
Done. (And the post above is updated.)

 
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