LaunchPadMcQuack
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Great animation!
I like that Google Earth still has the Sorcerer's hat at Hollywood Studios.
I like that Google Earth still has the Sorcerer's hat at Hollywood Studios.
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montyz81
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Incredibles 2 makes $1billion in revenue. When is the ride coming to WDW? https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...es-2-passes-1-billion-at-worldwide-box-office
This thread just collects rumors, it doesn't discuss them. Sorry.
montyz81
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Sorry, didn't know where to put it, It can probably be moved to general discussion. Sorry again!
Disney Hollywood Studios
updating TSL...
Toy Story Land in Hollywood Studio,currently being built {updated}
Epcot
Illuminations: a major update, or complete replacement of Illuminations [strong]
Land Pavilion
Living Seas Pavilion refurb around 2021 [here] {updated}
The UK: Unknown Ride:
Brazil: there will be a possible new national pavilion, likely to be Brazil(2021?) (2022?) in 2022 [here] with possible attached attraction/ride [chance of an attached attraction down to more than likely not than likely]
[strong, mid 2020] [Gran Fiesta closing around late 2019] [overlaid like Gran Fiesta was overlaid] [cryptic: and maybe a Coco overlay to the interior of the pavilion?
Imagination - something with Imagination... maybe... and if so, it's 5-6 years away (2022-3). [and again]
Resorts
Epcot Main Entrance: Brand new resort complexes in the area of Epcot entrance (not Crescent Lake), four in the running [at least two somewhat likely]
Artist's Point restaurant going down for refurb
General
The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
Gondola Lift!
Timeline
2018
2019
2020
- Both Star Wars Lands will open in 2019 [official]
- the connector between SWL and TSL will no longer be a tunnel, just a curvy path with berms on the sides [here] {added}
updating TSL...
Toy Story Land in Hollywood Studio,
Opens "summer 2018" [confirmed at D23 2017]Rumor is May 2018 opening [strong] and [strong] and [Memorial Day pretty definite]- Will open on June 30 [official] [confirmed] {updated}
Some of the big props in Pixar Place are being removed and will reappear in TSL [very likely][confirmed] {updated}- Slinky Dog Dash ride has two launches, with no wait at the first one and a short hold on the second.
Without lifts, ride is short at about 50 seconds[here] [actually 1:40 with about a 7-10 second stoppage at the second launch, plus, there's 5-15 second AA show at the end] {updated} WRT FPs... the three TSL rides will be Tier 1, and everything else in DHS will become/remain Tier 2. [here][confirmed] {updated}
Epcot
Illuminations: a major update, or complete replacement of Illuminations [strong]
- timeline:
Land Pavilion
Living Seas Pavilion refurb around 2021 [here] {updated}
The UK: Unknown Ride:
- The IP...
- still Poppins, maybe some hiccups, but should open the beginning of 2021 [here] {added}
Brazil: there will be a possible new national pavilion, likely to be Brazil
- Brazil pavilion will cost $450 million with Brazil (i.e. Brazilian interests) picking up $250 million of it [here] [here] {added}
Imagination - something with Imagination... maybe... and if so, it's 5-6 years away (2022-3). [and again]
- And another confirmation Figment might come back as a possibility [here], but might not... still several options on the table [here] {added}
Resorts
Epcot Main Entrance: Brand new resort complexes in the area of Epcot entrance (not Crescent Lake), four in the running [at least two somewhat likely]
- Any new resort in this area has become unlikely [here] {added}
Artist's Point restaurant going down for refurb
- character meal being added, likely Snow White & company [here] {added}
General
The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
- And now... the latest proposal is for Indy *and* Dinosaurs to co-exist! Indy with a Dino theme (e.g., Lost Word type of thing) would take over DINOSAUR and DinoRama would be an updated Excavator coasters. ...
- any "Excavator" coaster will not be the one planned in the mid-90s, just in name only [here] {added}
Gondola Lift!
- To open March to October 2019 [here], or, closer to spring 2019 [here]
- Operational early May 2019. Guests on it within 2-3 months of that timeframe. [here] {added}
Timeline
2018
- EP: interim Illuminations replacement, or, in 2019 {added}
2019
- EP: interim Illuminations replacement, or, in 2018 {added}
- WDW:
Mar - Oct (closer to spring):July - Aug: Skyline (gondola lift) opens {updated}
2020
- EP: Illuminations next version [moved from 2019 to 2020 to 2019 now back in 2020] {updated}
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Cesar R M
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Thx penguins, surprising how many backand forths..
I wonder if its all budget related or just shortage of time/construction crew.
Princess Leia
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small correction- I think the Brazil pavilion will cost more than $450.
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Epcot
The UK: Unknown Ride:
Magic Kingdom
Tomorrowland
Main Street
Disney Hollywood Studios
The rumored "Phase 3" is not going to be another land, but instead, updates like the Mickey ride; however, there once was talk of "2 new areas" in the planning stages which are now off the table
Animal Kingdom
Pandora:
Resorts
Epcot Main Entrance:Brand new resort complexes in the area of Epcot entrance (not Crescent Lake), four in the running [at least two somewhat likely]
Swolphin tower on Fantasia Gardens tennis court with cabanas turned into more parking (but the miniature golf being more or less left alone) [see here and following]
In General / Resort Wide
The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
The UK: Unknown Ride:
- a simple ride coming to UK
- originally, could have been a D, C, or B level ride [here], but once Poppins was decided upon, only a B or C ride. {added}
Magic Kingdom
Tomorrowland
- land refresh: while the full plan hasn't been announced, this is definitely happening since it has already started with paint jobs and the seasonal closure of Stitch. However, the plans have not been finalized and there are several contenders, and so, competing ideas keep getting leaked...
- final theme should be clean lines with blue, white, and purple colors [here] {added}
Speedway is getting an overhaul. [Here.- still a plan to overlay the Speedway (with, most likely TRON) [here] {added}
Main Street
- The Move It Shake It parade & dance party will close in November to be replaced by a new show to celebrate Mickey's 90th in 2019. [here] {added}
Disney Hollywood Studios
The rumored "Phase 3" is not going to be another land, but instead, updates like the Mickey ride; however, there once was talk of "2 new areas" in the planning stages which are now off the table
Animal Kingdom
Pandora:
- An extra attraction and a full sit-down restaurant a possible addition [here] [updated].
- Is Zootopia coming to DAK?
- No. [here] {added}
Resorts
Epcot Main Entrance:
Exploratory borings for a new Epcot retention pond seems likely to indicate new building in the area [here]Perhaps even a park entrance resort like MiraCosta at DisneySea [here]Expect one resort by 2021 or two resorts to be done by 2023 [here]Narrowed down to three locations [here]Any new resort in this area has become unlikely [here]- And now, no new hotels in the area of Epcot's entrance [here] {updated and added}
- a land use permit shows a "Project 89" (1889?) on Bay Lake over the old water park in between Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness. [here] {added}
Swolphin tower on Fantasia Gardens tennis court with cabanas turned into more parking (but the miniature golf being more or less left alone) [see here and following]
- it will be some brand of Marriott, a rumor of a Kessler Collection Tower is being denied by a Kessler spokesperson [here]
- project moving forward, info [here] {added}
In General / Resort Wide
The Great Park Fight: Indy/Dinosaurs/Shanghai PotC tech/DAK/DHS/Epcot
Disney Maddux
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Sorry, but the rumored items are vague as to what month they are 'due' with projected times such as "spring" or "latter half of the year" or "by 2021". Putting them in chronological order within a year is really not possible.
Since there aren't too many items in a year, it should be relatively easy to browse the list and get what's coming early in the year and what's coming later.
Magic Kingdom
Mickey's 90th Birthday in 2019
EPCOT
Festivals:
Hollywood Studios
Shows
Animal Kingdom
Flights of Wonder:
Disney Springs
In General
Resorts
Caribbean Beach Resort Area
Mickey's 90th Birthday in 2019
- A whole bunch of temporary and 'pop up' stuff happens in the MK to celebrate Mickey's 90th staring Jan 18, 2019 and ending Sep 30 (including merch and special food). [official] {added}
- Move It Shake It parade/party ends Dec 1, 2018 to make way for a Mickey-centric parade/party, Jan 18, 2019 - ongoing. [official] {added}
- Mickey's PhilharMagic to get a content update [here]
- Pirate street show changed to M&G with Captain Jack on 9/30/18 [here] {added}
- Added in 2018: Live actors on Pirates (Gunpowder Pete non-plot); Mad Tea Party Halloween lighting package; Space Mountain lack of lighting package; Storybook Circus Disney Jr. dance party; costume 'contest' [here] {added}
EPCOT
Festivals:
- There is an idea for a summer event... [here]
- in 2018, Arts Festival went daily. In 2019 musical shows (Broadway for Arts, Garden Rocks for Garden) will also run daily. [here] {added}
- timeline:
early summer 2019,in 2020 [here],mid 2019 (for now) [here]or even in 2021 because of HEA v.2 [here]expect early 2020 [here]we're back to 2019 or 2020 [here] and [here]- originally delayed because Happily Ever After got priority.
- Hardware is currently being fabricated for the new show. (3/14/18) [here]
- definitely not in 2018 [here]
and back to summer of 2019 [here]and now... pushed back to 2020 [here]and now... the possibility of an interim show- Interim show is cancelled. [here] New permanent show is now scheduled to start Oct 1, 2019. I:RoE will have last show the day before [here] and [here] {added}
- timeline: end of 2019, beginning of 2020 [here]
- if this isn't cut, expected in 2020. New camera rig should be built. Now, they have to shoot footage. [here]
- and footage is in production. On track for 2020 [here] {added}
Hollywood Studios
Shows
- Disney Jr. Dance Party (starting Dec 22, 2018) takes over for Disney Jr. - Live on Stage (ended Sep 1, 2018) [here] {added}
- the only new thing announced for DHS for the holidays 2018 is seasonal songs in Swirling Saucers. [here] {added}
- As part of Mickey's 90th and Pixar's 30th, Pixar stuff added to DHS [here] {added}
- Municiberg: on Jan 19, 2018, old Pixar Place will be made into Incredible's Municiberg. Lots of Incredible M&Gs and interactivities. {added}
- M&G Mike and Sulley on Jan 19, 2018 {added}
- Lightning McQueen show in Sunset Showcase, Spring 2019 {added}
Animal Kingdom
Flights of Wonder:
- New show opened in April 2018 - UP! A Great Bird Adventure
- Show was revised due to poor reception {added}
- Show will be revised again on Nov 8 for Diwali celebration [here] {added}
- Hakuna Matata Time Dance Party with Timon and Rafiki {added}
- Photo ops 3D scenery {added}
- more TBA {added}
- Word was RPW was going seasonal [here] and [here] then closing [here] but maybe back in an altered form [here] and [here] and [here] {added}
- No major changes expected until after 2021 [here]
- Shaman performers cut from RoL as a budget savings measure (among several others) [here] {added}
Disney Springs
- New to 2018 holidays: New trees will be added in 2018 to the underwhelming Christmas Tree Trail [here] {added}
- City Works Eatery & Pour House: A section of the NBA Experience will be taken over by this venue. To open Summer of 2019. [here] {added}
In General
- Play Disney Park mobile app debuted end of June 2018 {added}
- gondola speed: 11.2 mph (18 kph) / 16.4 fps (5 mps) [here] {added}
- Club 33 in DAK won't be taking over an existing space, but will be a new build. [here]
- Called Harambe House, will be in Harambe section of DAK, somewhere between Sat'uli Canteen and Festival of the Lion King [here] and [here] and [here] {added}
Resorts
Caribbean Beach Resort Area
- Centertown update with more retail and dining. [official]
- Centertown completed with Old Port Royale; Sebatian's Bistro; Centertown Market; Banana Cabana Pool Bar [here] {added}
- to open in Summer of 2019 [here] {added}
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Great. Just this night WDW announces more new Christmasy stuff for TSL. Adding this: https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...ry-land-friends-to-dress-up-for-the-holidays/
I may have missed it but did our insiders confirm OCT 1 for ROE'S replacement? Or are we guessing? ROE's 20th Anniversary is end of Sep 2019. Whether Epcot wants to hit that who knows.
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EPCOT
Living Seas Pavilion refurb around 2021 [here]
(2021?) (2022?) in 2022 [here] with possible attached attraction/ride [chance of an attached attraction down to more than likely not than likely]
In General
Monorail
Some Type of Transportation Other Than Gondolas!
Living Seas Pavilion refurb around 2021 [here]
- A recent survey may point to something new at the Seas (that isn't aquarium related) [here] {added}
- SSE may go down for a 2 year complete refurb, keeping the journey through communications concept but with new tracks and updated modern scenes (the internet is a thing!) [here] {added}
- Brazil pavilion will cost $450 million with Brazil (i.e. Brazilian interests) picking up $250 million of it [here] [here]
- This cost is way too high for just a pavilion, and so, it's likely going to include an E-Ticket [here] {added}
In General
Monorail
- still going with Bombadier, still in the works [here] {added}
Some Type of Transportation Other Than Gondolas!
- hints of new mass transit that is not bus, not gondola lift, not monorail, not rail; but whatever it is, it's years away [likely]
- maybe dedicated roadways (no cars, flyways over hiways), maybe with rail or some type of tracked system (maybe AI controlled?) [here] {added}
- Signs keep pointing more and more to Indy coming to DHS, maybe even as a mini-land which includes replacing the stunt show [here] {added}
Disneyrailfan1996
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I'm not sure how important these are (likely they're minor) but i do have some updates regarding other attractions plus the monorail (I got back from a trip less than a week ago).
- the monorail has Recieved some work. The Narration got an update. And a rather odd one at that. It'll sometimes be high pitched, and this is because according to a monorail CM "They wanted to speed it up to match certain areas" (my memory is fuzzy on his words). So apparently they edited the audio to speed it up, but did not correct the pitch after the effect was applied (so easy to fix or apply the effect without pitch change, I could do it). it is still the same narration as before, except sped up and higher pitched occasionally (I noticed this when i took the monorail to the contemporary from MK). Other than that, there is nothing major.
- Monster's inc. Laugh Floor recieved a new sign (or a temporary sign) it no longer is mounted on the Peoplemover's track area (for lack of a better term). It is now located on the ground. I DO have a photo of it (at least i think so), but it is on my phone (if not, I may have to screenshot a video and then upload that)
- Space mountain's exit is still going over the train tracks (has been since i was there in august). No word on how much longer or what is being done (I didn't ask because I actually like being able to stay back after riding space mountain and watch the train go by up close!)
- There is a sign now advertising the new tron coaster (although it did not specifically mention it) next to the WDWRR tracks. It (somewhat ironically) is placed in Fantasyland just a few feet from the shed (not the roundhouse, the small shed across the tracks). so that's (kind of) a step forward in terms of something being built. we likely won't see anything for an exterior or interior (including a track) to the attraction for perhaps another 6-12 months. (I do have a photo on my phone)
- Liberty Square Riverboat is still out for a major refurbishment (rivers of america is unaffected, it's just the boat) and will return in december (last i checked via a CM was august, it could have changed though). As for what is being done, I've not heard or read anything official–just speculation of a new boiler.
- There's still work going on around Prince Charming's Regal Carousel. It looks as though it's work on the shelter, but I can't tell for sure. (I don't think i have any photos)
- the biggest one I have to conrtibute? Stitch. I do know that was removed. I saw a photo of Stitch's figure stripped of the aesthetics (fur and everything, just bare mechanisms now). Stitch's control panel is STILL present outside the show building (I SHOULD have taken a photo, but I didn't). No clue what the control panel is still there. There's no way of telling as to whether it is still connected to power or not (at least to the average person). Only way to tell is to turn it on, but you'd need a key. I say we play this one by ear since I have a gut feeling this could cause speculation for a new, similar attraction sometime (still utilizing the same panel). I have seen photos of body wars' controls gutted (or at least partly), so that means Disney has no plans to revive that attraction or put something in its place that would utilize said controls. That closed in '04. Now it is just bare and the countdown clock still present. Stitch, however, is another story, so let's see where this goes. The panel could be removed soon (or in the near future) or it could stay (your guess is as good as mine). I don't think I know of any official word, but i haven't read the rumors about Stitch's replacement either. again, I say this has to be played be ear (eye?).
GlacierGlacier
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Most of this has been discussed in various threads scattered throughout this forum.
The Laugh Floor change was discussed in the "Tomorrowland changes" thread by Marni.
Space Mountain has had its exit repeatedly discussed in a thread dedicated entirely to that.
The Tron sign was in the Tron thread.
The riverboat is in the riverboat thread.
Stitch has his own thread.
The carousel was discussed in its thread, however, it's more than a few pages back.
As for the 90th, his birthday is celebrated starting on November 18th of this year, reaching from 2018 to 2019.
This thread here is mostly a way to organize the thoughts and rumors established and discussed in their independent threads. Feel free to discuss as much as you please in their respective threads.
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