ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
Would you still feel that way if you'd bought a full lunch then couldn't find someplace to sit because so many had brought in their own food and were taking up tables?
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News WDW Food and Beverage Price Increases 10/1/2019
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matt9112
Well-Known Member
What i see more of is people sitting and not eating period. Waiting around sucking up seating. In either case i would say seating capacity is too low before i try to blame customers. Indoor traditional seating is lacking across all the parks relative to attendance. Think about it attendance has gone up x amount in a decade has seating gone up by the same amount? You and i both know the answer is heck no.
Edit- furthermore it ties into the underlying problem that from a physical space and infrastructure stand point the parks have not grown relative to attendance so just like ques food and bev and heck even merch is likely undersized for the amo8nt of humans visiting.
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
Even outdoor shaded seating has been removed. It's bad...and I fear WDW may soon feel like 6 Flags in regards to lack of shade and places to sit and relax. But I still wouldn't take up seating in a restaurant unless I was buying and eating there.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Me personally? I would not care.
But to the ideological point: that’s why I said “open” tables. Restricting in a crowd is a reasonable step.
Are we talking about the avatar restaurant or the Star Wars here?
There’s NOBODY in the Star Wars restaurant...9 times times outta 10
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
No specific restaurant...just in general.
matt9112
Well-Known Member
I would also say without knowing any better IF the amount of people eating there own food is increasing to x level vs before i would argue disney is starting to hit there ceiling. (Think new york cigarette taxes) eventually you take and take until a noticeable demographic decides to for contexual sake buy elsewhere. This could be eating off site or bringing in your own food. Attempts to combat this with nore rigid rules and enforcement rarely go well nor does it fix the problem.
Let's face it... people relaxing on park benches are not buying merch or food.
Wow! You've been there 10 times already?
matt9112
Well-Known Member
Maybe the core parks strategy shouldn't be wrapped around a food and merch tentpole? If you provide a great product at a fair value the rest falls into place. The parks are amazingly profitable but theres this ever growing itch that needs more. Squeeze every drop out of them to fuel the machine.
BromBones
Well-Known Member
That happens when I buy a lunch anyway. How many times have we gone to Pecos Bill's or Gaton's, etc. and had no place to sit because people bought food and are actually sitting and eating their food. You can't fault them for that. It's the luck of the draw. Sometimes you get lucky and get a seat, sometimes you don't.
And if they brought their own food I don't care. They have already paid enough to be in the parks. I can't begrudge them the ability to sit someplace comfortable to eat.
Now, Once you're done eating out of courtesy you should get up so someone else can have your table.
The biggest problems are with the people who sit there after eating for every prolonged periods of time just to have social hour.
BromBones
Well-Known Member
C'mon now. Iger Disney has made it very clear that the customer is no longer the most important thing....unless they are only spending money. If there is a place for someone to sit....there is profit to be had darn it.
Remember when the fireworks viewing garden areas were just fast pass areas.
Now you have to pay for them.
Remember when you used to be able to eat at the Plaza and sit on the patio to watch the fireworks?
Now you have to pay extra to sit there.
Disney charges for everything now.
They even charge you for having bell hops bring your food deliveries to your room from the lobby.
And don't think for a second that is not to dissuade people from ordering their own food.
That's why they charge you for parking at the hotels. They don't want you driving your own cars because then you can get off campus and eat somewhere else.
They would prefer people use Disney's Magical Express and resort transportation so they are basically stuck having to pay for Disney food.
It's only a matter of time before Disney stops allowing people to order food from outside and have it delivered to the hotels at all.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
“Sources say”...i’m Getting to 10...need an “exclusive event” to really sweeten the pot
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
Paying more and no more ketchup on-demand. How embarrassing:
Just like they do at BOG, where you have to chase servers and ask for more ketchup.
This is a hot-dogs and fries place, absurd!
McDonald's I have visited recently you have to ask for packets of ketchup, salt and pepper and or napkins.
awoogala
Well-Known Member
Probably because people have become disgusting. I'm fine with this. Every self-serve ketchup thing I've seen at restaurants is gross. People are animals at restaurants, and just leave messes for others to clean.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
So we're at McDonald's level now.. just keeping track.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
of course you are
Tastes better and better price point than QSR places at WDW. The ketchup and napkins I can ask for before eating.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
I mean, sure, not entirely wrong. But shouldn't we strive for more for what we're paying? I can't tell if you're defending this or not, don't understand your point.