WDW 2010: Same old pixie dust?

[Buried20KLeague]

Steve I don't think this is as cut and dry as that. Overall Potter's ride and show systems will be the most technologically advanced in the world including TSMM. Regarding the computing aspect there are many levels to talk about. There is the ride control system itself. From that aspect Potter wins. I mean we are actually working on a PDA that tech. services will carry with them that will alert them of the system's status in real time. If there is a fault it will indicate which vehicle, what zone and exactly what is wrong. The Tech. will be able to reset certain systems right from the PDA and will be given instructions as to what to try if that fails. The motion control programming and hardware is state of the art and has to move 47 vehicles through complex profiles integrated with unique show elements. Then there is the unusual safety and monitoring systems necessary to move complex industrial robotic arms through the show building that are capable of lifting 40 to 50 feet in the air and must avoid contact with elaborate show sets and other elements. The timing, motion, synch...believe me I could go on and on.

From a technology standpoint TSMM is impressive but doesn't come close to the complexity and, in my opinion, the overall experience that Potter will offer.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:sohappy:

Can't wait.

 

[_Scar]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:sohappy:

Can't wait.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this!

Holy crap! Why so high? I hope there's no free fall crap. :zipit:

 

[Disneyson 1]

So the REAL question is what will win: An amazing thrill ride of an epic proportions consisting of many memorable movie scenes to create a definitive Harry Potter experience, or a heartwarming and slow - moving attraction taking you through the emotions and the wonder of The Little Mermaid.

OR: A re-theming of a classic roller coaster to give the illusion of a dragon race, or the new parent's savior: a classic spinner with reduced wait time and a FUN line.

OR: The prospect of using your own wand to explore a whole theme park's secrets, or the prospect of visiting your childhood friends in their own worlds.

Hard to choose.

 

[CBOMB]

You are the one who pops up everytime someone challanges him to act as his bodyguard. I think that you are the one who has a crush on 74.

Most of us would prefer he stay at that other place which he has turned into a ghost town with his gloomy posts and gloomier pals.

I don't think he needs a body guard. No I don't have a crush on '74 like you seem to jt04. I do find his post interesting, as well as provocative. They certainly seem to generate a lot of responses. You follow him from post to post like a stalker. I'm starting to think there are a click of WDW1974 groupies here.

I see you are back to your usual tactics of putting down other Disney forums, and members of that community. That really becomes you jt04 That puts you in a league with mousermerf, and Ghostbuster/Enigma/Conundrum. You should be very proud of yourself.

Everytime '74 post something there is a certain group of people here that flock to it for the sole purpose of making the topic of the thread all about WDW1974 rather than discussing WDW.

Please tell me why there is not one insider at this site or any other that says '74 doesn't know what he's talking about. You can certainly disagree with a persons point of view about something without making it so personal. Believe me jt04, it's very obvious that it's all very personal with you. It really gets kind of embarrassing when so many people in this forum address you as some kind of buffon.

It would have been so simple for anyone here to address the thread topic without bringing in comments about their own personal opinions about the poster.

By the way. I didn't see you or any of the other people that think WDW1974 is so negative posting in his report on his latest trip to WDW.
I believed how he discussed the trip being one of the best he's ever made.

Anyway jt04, keep up the good work.

 

[jt04]

I don't think he needs a body guard. No I don't have a crush on '74 like you seem to jt04. I do find his post interesting, as well as provocative. They certainly seem to generate a lot of responses. You follow him from post to post like a stalker. I'm starting to think there are a click of WDW1974 groupies here.

I see you are back to your usual tactics of putting down other Disney forums, and members of that community. That really becomes you jt04 That puts you in a league with mousermerf, and Ghostbuster/Enigma/Conundrum. You should be very proud of yourself.

Everytime '74 post something there is a certain group of people here that flock to it for the sole purpose of making the topic of the thread all about WDW1974 rather than discussing WDW.

Please tell me why there is not one insider at this site or any other that says '74 doesn't know what he's talking about. You can certainly disagree with a persons point of view about something without making it so personal. Believe me jt04, it's very obvious that it's all very personal with you. It really gets kind of embarrassing when so many people in this forum address you as some kind of buffon.

It would have been so simple for anyone here to address the thread topic without bringing in comments about their own personal opinions about the poster.

By the way. I didn't see you or any of the other people that think WDW1974 is so negative posting in his report on his latest trip to WDW.
I believed how he discussed the trip being one of the best he's ever made.

Anyway jt04, keep up the good work.

Hmmm,

So, your telling me you are not his bodyguard and don't have a man crush on him? Yeah right. :lol:


Anyway back to the OP. Nothing is happening of consequence in 2010 except those construction walls popping up for the biggest expansion of the MK since it opened. And I get the sense there is a friendly competition between TDA and TDO as to who builds the better construction wall. My bet is on TDO! :sohappy:

 

[Disneyson 1]

Guys, also remember that nothing is happening in Uni. in 2011...

 

[Brian_B]

I'm sorry, I guess I'm not excited for Little Mermaid then? Even though I've been calling for it to come to MK since it was announced for DCA.

Or Be Our Guest Restaurant or Gaston's? Even though I've been clamoring for additional dining options at the Magic Kingdom

Or Star Tours? I mean, I only have it as my avatar and in my sig. But I mean, it's definitely going to suck.

And I guess having the reason for having the Dumbo concept art as my wallpaper on my computer is because I'm so sure it's going to suck, right?

Give me a break, Steve.

I smell a USF fanboi troll.

 

[nemofinder22]

Anyway back to the OP. Nothing is happening of consequence in 2010 except those construction walls popping up for the biggest expansion of the MK since it opened. And I get the sense there is a friendly competition between TDA and TDO as to who builds the better construction wall. My bet is on TDO! :sohappy:

:lol:

Im surprised DLR hasnt run out of walls yet they probably will come Jan with ROA walled up and drained and DCA getting more in Jan.:ROFLOL:

but the hall of walls (as EpcotExplorer named it) is getting kinda scary:lookaroun- http://www.mouseinfo.com/gallery/files/4/1/2/7/dl151008_original.jpg

 

[CBOMB]

Hmmm,

So, your telling me you are not his bodyguard and don't have a man crush on him? Yeah right. :lol:


Anyway back to the OP. Nothing is happening of consequence in 2010 except those construction walls popping up for the biggest expansion of the MK since it opened. And I get the sense there is a friendly competition between TDA and TDO as to who builds the better construction wall. My bet is on TDO! :sohappy:

Way to slide by jt04. So now you want to address the op like you should have been doing all along.

 

[_Scar]

I don't think he needs a body guard. No I don't have a crush on '74 like you seem to jt04. I do find his post interesting, as well as provocative. They certainly seem to generate a lot of responses. You follow him from post to post like a stalker. I'm starting to think there are a click of WDW1974 groupies here.

I see you are back to your usual tactics of putting down other Disney forums, and members of that community. That really becomes you jt04 That puts you in a league with mousermerf, and Ghostbuster/Enigma/Conundrum. You should be very proud of yourself.

Everytime '74 post something there is a certain group of people here that flock to it for the sole purpose of making the topic of the thread all about WDW1974 rather than discussing WDW.

Please tell me why there is not one insider at this site or any other that says '74 doesn't know what he's talking about. You can certainly disagree with a persons point of view about something without making it so personal. Believe me jt04, it's very obvious that it's all very personal with you. It really gets kind of embarrassing when so many people in this forum address you as some kind of buffon.

It would have been so simple for anyone here to address the thread topic without bringing in comments about their own personal opinions about the poster.

By the way. I didn't see you or any of the other people that think WDW1974 is so negative posting in his report on his latest trip to WDW.
I believed how he discussed the trip being one of the best he's ever made.

Anyway jt04, keep up the good work.

Jt is always being criticized here for no apparent reason. I don't think he needs me to defend him, but I've only seen Jt participate on the bashing if he's bashed first. I don't understand what forum you're reading, but it's very, very clear.

WDW1974 clearly posts opinions, not facts, so what's an insider going to say? He's wrong or right? :ROFLOL:

BTW, this thread still does not belong since.. well this is a NEWS forum and WDW1974 clearly knew the answer (because he posted it himself) before making this thread.

I find it HILARIOUS you insult JT by saying he should be "proud of himself" by attacking other posters when you're attacking him. Cmon... now that's just bad contradiction right there.

P.S.- Lindsay Lohan is provocative in her actions and stirs the pot with commentators. Doesn't mean she has anything great to offer society.

 

[TURKEY]

BTW, this thread still does not belong since.. well this is a NEWS forum and WDW1974 clearly knew the answer (because he posted it himself) before making this thread.

It belongs as much as the dribble that is talked about in the Epcot thread or the Conan joke thread to me.



So far people seem to be thrilled about 2010 for the following:


* A bigger butterfly garden for F&G festival

* Construction walls and scrims - some for some yearly rehabs (or should be)

* Work for a 3 year project before finished

* Volunteering for a day to get a day ticket so you can spend money on getting there, food, etc.

* Attractions that were opened in 2009 and refurbished in 2009.




:shrug: I don't get it. I hope I'm wrong and something spectacular comes.

 

[CBOMB]

Jt is always being criticized here for no apparent reason. I don't think he needs me to defend him, but I've only seen Jt participate on the bashing if he's bashed first. I don't understand what forum you're reading, but it's very, very clear.

WDW1974 clearly posts opinions, not facts, so what's an insider going to say? He's wrong or right? :ROFLOL:

BTW, this thread still does not belong since.. well this is a NEWS forum and WDW1974 clearly knew the answer (because he posted it himself) before making this thread.

I find it HILARIOUS you insult JT by saying he should be "proud of himself" by attacking other posters when you're attacking him. Cmon... now that's just bad contradiction right there.

P.S.- Lindsay Lohan is provocative in her actions and stirs the pot with commentators. Doesn't mean she has anything great to offer society.

If you're so distraught about WDW1974 's thread, and it's location then why are you still here? You are the one that keeps complaining. It seems like most of the folks here are doing what this thread was intended to do. That is discuss WDW, and all the things planned for the World in 2010.

I certainly hope that by the time you grauate high school you will learn the difference between attacking someone, and disagreeing with that persons opinion.

 

[marni1971]

So the REAL question is what will win: An amazing thrill ride of an epic proportions consisting of many memorable movie scenes to create a definitive Harry Potter experience, or a heartwarming and slow - moving attraction taking you through the emotions and the wonder of The Little Mermaid.

You can`t compare Potter and TLM. That`s like putting Spiderman and iasw head to head.

Potter could well rewrite the theme park attraction experience if it all comes together.

 

[CBOMB]

You can`t compare Potter and TLM. That`s like putting Spiderman and iasw head to head.

Potter could well rewrite the theme park attraction experience if it all comes together.

It could turn out that great?

 

[EpcotServo]

Steve I don't think this is as cut and dry as that. Overall Potter's ride and show systems will be the most technologically advanced in the world including TSMM. Regarding the computing aspect there are many levels to talk about. There is the ride control system itself. From that aspect Potter wins. I mean we are actually working on a PDA that tech. services will carry with them that will alert them of the system's status in real time. If there is a fault it will indicate which vehicle, what zone and exactly what is wrong. The Tech. will be able to reset certain systems right from the PDA and will be given instructions as to what to try if that fails. The motion control programming and hardware is state of the art and has to move 47 vehicles through complex profiles integrated with unique show elements. Then there is the unusual safety and monitoring systems necessary to move complex industrial robotic arms through the show building that are capable of lifting 40 to 50 feet in the air and must avoid contact with elaborate show sets and other elements. The timing, motion, synch...believe me I could go on and on.

From a technology standpoint TSMM is impressive but doesn't come close to the complexity and, in my opinion, the overall experience that Potter will offer.

For the record, they were talking about Spiderman V. Midway in terms of technology. I make it a habit not to compare tech for attractions more than a year apart, so many nifty gizmos in terms of Ride Control and Programming pop up every month, soon if so much as a Fly sneezes it'll be recorded on a Computer somehow.
:lol:

Also, Expedition Everest and Midway Mania also use PDAs to monitor the attraction, show systems, and programming elements in real time. The Yeti for example, has had it's program altered several times by WDI all the way from Glendale. Cool stuff.

 

[_Scar]

If you're so distraught about WDW1974 's thread, and it's location then why are you still here? You are the one that keeps complaining. It seems like most of the folks here are doing what this thread was intended to do. That is discuss WDW, and all the things planned for the World in 2010.

I certainly hope that by the time you grauate high school you will learn the difference between attacking someone, and disagreeing with that persons opinion.

I love how you didn't even address the points I presented. At least this high schooler knows how to have a proper discussion. You were CLEARLY attacking JT, don't be foolish. This high schooler aint as dumb as he looks. Everything you're saying is complaining about us... oh wait.... is that disagreeing? :lol: You're funny sweety.

For the record, they were talking about Spiderman V. Midway in terms of technology.

Also, Expedition Everest and Midway Mania also use PDAs to monitor the attraction, show systems, and programming elements in real time. The Yeti for example, has had it's program altered several times by WDI all the way from Glendale. Cool stuff.

That's awesome!

It could turn out that great?

:brick:

 

[lazyboy97o]

This constant touting of the "biggest expansion in the Magic Kingdom's history!" line really should be a serious ray of light on the Magic Kingdom. In terms of the park's boundaries, there is very little expansion beyond the 1988 park boundaries. The Meet & Greets are essentially a sort of replacement for what exists in Mickey's ToonTown Fair, but definitely improved. What seems to make this the biggest, I am thinking of Caribbean Plaza as a comparative, is the table service restaurant and the Meet & Greet enhancements. That is not a lot.

 

[marni1971]

The biggest park gain per guest participation was Tomorrowland in 1973-5; not just fancy landscaping and meet n greets but Star Jets, Carousel of Progress, Space Mountain and the WEDway Peoplemover AND The Lunching Pad. Plus this was right on the heels of Caribbean Plaza. As if that wasn`t enough, The Walt Disney Story and Tom Saywer Island both opened during the period, and Flight to the Moon received an extreme refurb at the same time.

And did I mention the oil crisis and tourist attendence plummiting when it was all green lit?

Fantasyland North is welcome don`t get me wrong, but one new ride, one relocated mini-ride, one probable mini-ride overlay, more eateries and a bunch of meet n greets is a bit underwhelming.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

For the 50 millionth time, WDC and WDI's priority right now is DCA, HK and now probably China. Plus cruise ships, DVC's and a very heavy push on content both live action and animation. WDW is not a priority right now, but obviously will be as indicated by the FL announcement and also what is in the pipeline :zipit:.

This lull at WDW is obviously meaningless in the long term. Nothing to see here, moving on. :wave:

There shouldn't be a lull in the first place. Even if it's not something big, there should always be something. Like at Disneyland. they have that formula down pat.

Most of us would prefer he stay at that other place which he has turned into a ghost town with his gloomy posts and gloomier pals.

You kidding me? It's no WDWMagic (Home!:lol but the posts are VERY informative over there. You should give it a try.

I smell a USF fanboi troll.

Are were seriously lowering ourselves to that type of insult again back from ye olde days of rep points and universal war threads?!:dazzle::lol:


Even if he was more of a Fanboi for USF than he is for Disney (He isn't...Disney has JC) what would it batter. Valid opinion.

Jt is always being criticized here for no apparent reason. I don't think he needs me to defend him, but I've only seen Jt participate on the bashing if he's bashed first. I don't understand what forum you're reading, but it's very, very clear.

WDW1974 clearly posts opinions, not facts, so what's an insider going to say? He's wrong or right? :ROFLOL:

BTW, this thread still does not belong since.. well this is a NEWS forum and WDW1974 clearly knew the answer (because he posted it himself) before making this thread.

I find it HILARIOUS you insult JT by saying he should be "proud of himself" by attacking other posters when you're attacking him. Cmon... now that's just bad contradiction right there.

P.S.- Lindsay Lohan is provocative in her actions and stirs the pot with commentators. Doesn't mean she has anything great to offer society.

I don't bash...I disagree. I disagree with nameless opinions without facts and assumptions that events that are "going" to happen. I would rather take a realistic and almost euhemerist approach.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

The biggest park gain per guest participation was Tomorrowland in 1973-5; not just fancy landscaping and meet n greets but Star Jets, Carousel of Progress, Space Mountain and the WEDway Peoplemover AND The Lunching Pad. Plus this was right on the heels of Caribbean Plaza. As if that wasn`t enough, The Walt Disney Story and Tom Saywer Island both opened during the period, and Flight to the Moon received an extreme refurb at the same time.

And did I mention the oil crisis and tourist attendence plummiting when it was all green lit?

Fantasyland North is welcome don`t get me wrong, but one new ride, one relocated mini-ride, one probable mini-ride overlay, more eateries and a bunch of meet n greets is a bit underwhelming.

NAILED it, Mr. Smith. :wave: